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Made in fi
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Has Kill Team been able to affect your playing of regular 40k, and why?

For me, KT is currently the more interesting option. I've always liked smaller games of 40k, and I tend to paint more than I play. Smaller head count in KT allows me to convert and paint lots of different teams, and spend more time converting figures etc., and the games are bit faster.

I was also going to say "KT is cheaper", but then again it's a lot easier to start a new team each time you have a cool fluffy idea, so I guess the amount of money going into KT might be just as much

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Made in gb
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I stopped 40k in its current edition and it just didn’t feel right to me.
After my first game of KT though I’ve started to build my own team, love how it plays.
Quick and easy games and good fun.
   
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Lord of the Fleet






This poll is going to suffer from serious selection bias by being placed in this sub forum.

Stick it in 40K general and you'll probably get quite diffent results.
   
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Fixture of Dakka





Kill Team as its quick fun and allows one to indulge in many factions rather than just one or two.

That said, Kill Team is not getting the same amount of support that Warcry is. Aside from the Rogue Trader kit, Kill Team has been making do with 40K and BSF hand-me-downs. Meanwhile, Warcry gets original teams and even swanky new monsters. Hopefully tomorrow's reveal will have something to address this. It would help if they sold the Commanders rule book on its own - £35 just to field one model is a lot of money, especially when the core manual doesn't even come with cards nor tokens.

40K 8th edition isn't bad, and is always there for when 100 points and infantry alone don't cut it. I do like the new detachment system as its very flexible for any size battle. An abridged, softback rule book would be an improvement, along with slim codices. Before you even get to purchasing your army its £35 for the rule book and £25 for the army codex - £60 just for sake of a swanky hardback and 60% fluff. Even then you might need the latest Chapter approved or a Psychic Awakening book...might as well just stick to casual games with the core download primer and Wahapedia.


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 Scott-S6 wrote:
This poll is going to suffer from serious selection bias by being placed in this sub forum.

Stick it in 40K general and you'll probably get quite diffent results.


I doubt it as posters are constantly at odds with the rules and numerous supplements.

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Casual gaming, mostly solo-coop these days.

 
   
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Sureshot Kroot Hunter






I generally respond to threads in the Recent Threads area. So I wasn't specifically looking for KT when I found this.
   
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Lord of the Fleet






SamusDrake wrote:

 Scott-S6 wrote:
This poll is going to suffer from serious selection bias by being placed in this sub forum.

Stick it in 40K general and you'll probably get quite diffent results.


I doubt it as posters are constantly at odds with the rules and numerous supplements.

This forum doesn't get a lot of traffic from people who are primarily 40K player but do a little KT on the side.(ETA and the poll results are showing that very clearly)

Of course, in 40K general you'll probably miss some players who are starting KT as their first game.

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Made in gb
Dakka Veteran





 Scott-S6 wrote:
SamusDrake wrote:

 Scott-S6 wrote:
This poll is going to suffer from serious selection bias by being placed in this sub forum.

Stick it in 40K general and you'll probably get quite diffent results.


I doubt it as posters are constantly at odds with the rules and numerous supplements.

This forum doesn't get a lot of traffic from people who are primarily 40K player but do a little KT on the side.(ETA and the poll results are showing that very clearly)

Of course, in 40K general you'll probably miss some players who are starting KT as their first game.



Most traffic on any thread tends to come from the recent page (pretty much what I use mainly too)
This traffic would be entirely neutral as it could be anyone.
The specialist game sub forum is also like a ghost town, so you really won’t get much from there sadly.
   
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Lord of the Fleet






Jackal90 wrote:

Most traffic on any thread tends to come from the recent page (pretty much what I use mainly too)
This traffic would be entirely neutral as it could be anyone.
The specialist game sub forum is also like a ghost town, so you really won’t get much from there sadly.

Just because that's what you do, doesn't mean that's what everyone does.

Where does your info that most traffic on a thread comes from the recent page come from?

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Made in ca
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London, Ontario

I’m a recent page follower... how I found this.

I’ve effectively stopped playing 40k, and now play Kill Team once or twice a month. I find it’s a better game, plays quicker, I can play a game with my kids if I want. More variety, I spend more time playing than I do setting up...

Games usually aren’t settled by the third turn.

I like “platoon scale” gaming better than skirmish, normally, but 40k feels more and more like a company scale game, where Infantry are almost like wound markers for you special weapon upgrades.
   
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Roarin' Runtherd




I have a hard time getting full games of 40k at the local store (especially now with social distancing, but also before all that) so I've basically swapped my focus to building multiple kill teams so I can entice my regular friend group to play games with me without having to buy into the hobby. I get to play a lot more that way.
   
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 Scott-S6 wrote:
This poll is going to suffer from serious selection bias by being placed in this sub forum.

Stick it in 40K general and you'll probably get quite different results.


He speaks the true-truth.

That said, before the state sponsored break, I was playing more Kill Team than full 40k. However, Kill Team had spawned more playing of full 40k for me. My core group had been playing Kill Team for well over a year. Even with 4 core players and about 10 factions for each core player, playing 2-3 games per week was becoming a little stale. Only two of us have Age of Sigmar armies so that wasn't always ideal. Up until recently, only 3 of us had 2000 point 40k armies. Though I would have loaned the 4th player either my Black Legion or Primaris army if he wanted to play. Fortunately, the 4th player has an full 40k army now. So far, we only had one weekend of full 40k before the mandated break.

However, now that all of us had full 40k armies we each wanted to play a few games of that. This stay-at-home as only made it worst as all of our armies are getting quite a bit of hobby attention. I am actually looking forward to playing some full 40k when things get back to something a little closer to normal. While I enjoy Kill Team more, I do like playing platoon/company games on occasion. I especially like playing when both armies are painted and with players I have formed friendships with like the group I am in now which is all too rare. I do foresee quite a few full 40k games in my future and have been furiously painting miniatures these last few weeks.
   
Made in fi
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 Scott-S6 wrote:
This poll is going to suffer from serious selection bias by being placed in this sub forum.

Stick it in 40K general and you'll probably get quite diffent results.


Yes, that is absolutely true. Then again, on this sub-forum you get people who are actively playing both, or at least are old-beard enough to have an interest in specialist games.

Of course could stick it to 40k general, but then would get a lot of opinions from people who haven't played KT. Of course that could be interesting as well, might also catch some of the 'tried but didn't like' crowd.

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Made in nz
Precocious Human Child





Personally my mates and I tend to play more killteam than regular 40k because two of my mates have very few models/ are only recently coming into the hobby. It's also easier for us because it's so much cheaper and we can play different armies without investing in a whole army.
   
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Our group really can't stand 40k, but LOVE kill team. Built space marines, IG, Tau, and necron teams
   
Made in sg
Regular Dakkanaut






I started on killteam and later tried small 1k points and then 2k points 40k games. Right now, i personally prefer games between 1k and 1.5k using maelstrom cards
   
Made in fi
Posts with Authority






I still play the odd 40k game but strongly prefer KT. But then again, I got into 40k in the 1st ed rogue trader era, so I am biased towards "skirmish" level games. If KT rules introduced rules to cover the whole GW 40k model range, I'd probably stop playing 40k altogether.

KT is a lot easier sell for new players too. I cant really expect my mates, with kids and work, to be down with spending the time nor money required for a proper 40k army. With KT, all they need to invest in time and money is one box of minis, a few pots of paint, and a few nights doing basic painting & assembly.

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"The larger point though, is that as players, we have more control over what the game looks and feels like than most of us are willing to use in order to solve our own problems" 
   
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Sticksville, Texas

Honestly, at this point I can't be bothered with full 40k. Even though the Kill Team rules aren't amazing compared to other sci-fi skirmish games I have been playing, games of Kill Team are quick and makes it far easier to enjoy the game versus being annoyed at the blatantly poor balance of full 40k.

Also allows me to build and buy models for a faction I like a few models from, but don't want to make a full army for. Just bought some Tau to make a Kill Team/use in other skirmish games, and I would have never done so without Kill Team being an option, since it is often easier to find somebody who plays GW games versus the more niche alternatives my small group enjoys.

Planning on picking up some Dark Eldar to make a Wych themed Kill Team, because I like the models and couldn't care less how competitive it will be in Kill Team. Again, something I wouldn't do for normal 40k, since if I am going to spend the time and money to build a 2,000 point army... I would at least like it to have a decent chance of winning a game/putting up a fight versus being blown off the board turn 1.
   
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 Scott-S6 wrote:
This poll is going to suffer from serious selection bias by being placed in this sub forum.

Stick it in 40K general and you'll probably get quite diffent results.


Second on this.

Within my little group of friends, only me and one other guy really got into Kill Team. We both really like Kill Team. I like Kill Team as a compliment to 40k, but my friend prefers it, to the extent that when i play against him, he wants to play Kill Team exclusively. But in my group at large and my local gaming club it's still very much 40k. At my local club, I've only seen myself and my friend play Kill Team. Strangely, I've seen more people playing Titanicus.

Perhaps what sets my group of friends apart from some others who've posted here is that most of us are long timers who've been playing 40k for ten to twenty years, so most of use have pretty large armies we have amassed over the years and I think people like to use them.

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The only people I see that are more enthusiastic about Kill Team are the people who haven't gotten a 40k army yet. Most of them just start playing 40k as soon as their Kill Team collection grows enough to start 500 points.

Don't get me wrong, these days I'm not as stoked to lug around a large case full of models to play a game on my feet for 2 hours. Yeah, big tanks and stuff, yay, whatever.

And Kill Team is comically bland after you've played a few Necromunda campaigns, and it just makes me wish they'd have taken the N17 system and created a newer variant of Shadow War.

However, for a pick-up game for an hour? There's a reason I carry a small Kill-Team case in my bag.


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