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New to the hobby and the site! Planning a Necron army and don't really have much of a clue where to start, but I have drafted up a 2000 point list and am looking for help making it better. I haven't bought anything yet, so there isn't really anything that is a must include, but I am working with a sub $1000 budget. Any help is greatly appreciated! This list is just kinda what I could figure might work based partly off what I've been told, and partly based off what models look cool! I have no real strong reason for picking any of these models over any others. Thank you preemptively to anyone with advice or ideas to contribute!
Edit: It seems I was a bit misleading in my original post, for that I apologize, when I said I want "as close to competitive as necrons can get" I didn't mean I wanted a competitive list, I want more of a highly optimized list, one where the end goal is ultimately to have fun while still running a list that could hold its own against highly tuned on the meta lists. I appreciate the people sending me the Doom6 list, and I will for sure use that as a kind of frame of reference for some things, but the end goal is just to have fun at my LGS not to crush people in competitive tournaments.
I am hoping that this will be the last edit I make, the list is now at a point where I feel compofortable in saying it is a good balance between being good, and being fun. All characters and units that I want to both play and afford are on the list. Some were asking me to cut the Deathmarks because they were not good, I am appreciative of the advice but I personally like the aesthetic and think they look cool, so I am gonna be keeping them for the time being. Also the tomb blades are so decked out because I had 14 extra points and didn't know what else to do with them. I also would like to thank everyone who has offered advice on this list.
I'd take the Chronometron on the Cryptek. It helps better to have the extra save from ranged attacks, as I've only seen the Cloak be used to keep up with other units for the most part. Though I'm not sure if this build has you advancing the gun line all the way across the table, or sitting behind cover. I only speculate that your tactic is going to be to hold the line, seeing as you have a Doomsday Ark, which gets better weapon stats from not moving.
The Flayed Ones are kind of a waste, even with the price drop. Unless you're planning on snagging objectives with them after deep striking. You will need to bring some way to ensure you can get them in on a charge. Maybe Lychguard, or even Deathmarks.
The Lychguard can make nice bodyguards for your characters, or your Cryptek. While the Deathmarks keep the deepstrike and can counter enemy reserves. The extra mortal wound on 6+ is a nice bonus as well. Though, off the top of my head, I'm not sure how much they run in points so you may not be able to fit them in.
The Doom Scythe is a nice touch, but the last time I've run against any competitive list with Necrons. I've had to face 3 of them and the player used their Amalgamated Targeting Data stratagem. Plenty of mortal wounds coming out at least.
Do you have any units that you're on the fence about?
One has to wonder. Do the Tyranids consider drop-assault troops... fast food?
p5freak wrote: There is only one competitive cron list, the doom6. Its three DDAs, and three doom scythes.
I've only been spared the Doomsday Arks on two of my last five matches with Necrons. Though there is usually not enough units to keep them safe from retaliation.
All this because of a one trick pony Stratagem. How ironic with the dynasties choice of charters, though literally shredding whole mobs in a turn is always nice.
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One has to wonder. Do the Tyranids consider drop-assault troops... fast food?
For a starting list is pritty good if your gaming with friends or at a local club it will do ok. If you take to tournament events it will be tough going. Personaly i would swop out the Flayed Ones and the Triarch Stalker for a unit of Tomb Blades.
As your just starting out I'd recommend you go on youtube and watch the battle reports from the channel StrikingScorpion82 he does very well with his necron army and he dosnt use the normal tournament build.
Oborosen wrote: I'd take the Chronometron on the Cryptek. It helps better to have the extra save from ranged attacks, as I've only seen the Cloak be used to keep up with other units for the most part. Though I'm not sure if this build has you advancing the gun line all the way across the table, or sitting behind cover. I only speculate that your tactic is going to be to hold the line, seeing as you have a Doomsday Ark, which gets better weapon stats from not moving.
The Flayed Ones are kind of a waste, even with the price drop. Unless you're planning on snagging objectives with them after deep striking. You will need to bring some way to ensure you can get them in on a charge. Maybe Lychguard, or even Deathmarks.
The Lychguard can make nice bodyguards for your characters, or your Cryptek. While the Deathmarks keep the deepstrike and can counter enemy reserves. The extra mortal wound on 6+ is a nice bonus as well. Though, off the top of my head, I'm not sure how much they run in points so you may not be able to fit them in.
The Doom Scythe is a nice touch, but the last time I've run against any competitive list with Necrons. I've had to face 3 of them and the player used their Amalgamated Targeting Data stratagem. Plenty of mortal wounds coming out at least.
Do you have any units that you're on the fence about?
Thanks for the advice dude, I was only running Flayed Ones because of Imotekh and his buff, so I have no real use for them other than that. After looking at both Deathmarks and Lychguard I think both would be good additions to my army. I am not looking to be running a super stationary army, so I have cut the Doomsday Ark, and in the interest of points I went down on a unit of Canoptek Wraiths so I could add in the extra 2 doom scythes. The only thing I am unsure of is if I am running too many squads of Necron Warriors and Immortals and sacraficing the option of having other better units on the field.
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Commissar-AJ-Rimmer wrote: For a starting list is pritty good if your gaming with friends or at a local club it will do ok. If you take to tournament events it will be tough going. Personaly i would swop out the Flayed Ones and the Triarch Stalker for a unit of Tomb Blades.
As your just starting out I'd recommend you go on youtube and watch the battle reports from the channel StrikingScorpion82 he does very well with his necron army and he dosnt use the normal tournament build.
Thanks for the advice! I did decide to cut the Flayed Ones and Triarch Stalker, but instead am opting in Deathmarks for more interaction with my opponents reserves, and some Lychguard to protect the HQ choices, I will for sure give StrikingScorpion a look as I am trying to at the least merge concepts and ideas from tournament builds with something more casual.
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You never cut DDAs, because they are the best unit necrons have. I have never ever seen a competitive list without them. Dont use deathmarks, they are so bad. You want 6 destroyers, because of RP, harder to wipe out. Doom scythes are only good because of their stratagem, amalgamated taregeting data. But you need three of them. If your opponent kills one doom scythe you cant use the stratagem anymore. You really should replace the 3 doom scythes with 3 DDAs. Cut the lychguard and get more wraith. 20 warriors are pretty bad when you dont have the immortal pride warlord trait. You have imotekh, so he is going to be your warlord, to give you +1CP.
p5freak wrote: You never cut DDAs, because they are the best unit necrons have. I have never ever seen a competitive list without them. Dont use deathmarks, they are so bad. You want 6 destroyers, because of RP, harder to wipe out. Doom scythes are only good because of their stratagem, amalgamated taregeting data. But you need three of them. If your opponent kills one doom scythe you cant use the stratagem anymore. You really should replace the 3 doom scythes with 3 DDAs. Cut the lychguard and get more wraith. 20 warriors are pretty bad when you dont have the immortal pride warlord trait. You have imotekh, so he is going to be your warlord, to give you +1CP.
Switching up the build away from the DDAs would require him to change dynasties at this point.
However, going with a fun to play build and then getting competitive later would most likely be his best choice. Because building this army is going to be a pretty expensive, if he's going to go even remotely close to the current standard build that is.
Oborosen wrote: Thanks for the advice dude, I was only running Flayed Ones because of Imotekh and his buff, so I have no real use for them other than that. After looking at both Deathmarks and Lychguard I think both would be good additions to my army. I am not looking to be running a super stationary army, so I have cut the Doomsday Ark, and in the interest of points I went down on a unit of Canoptek Wraiths so I could add in the extra 2 doom scythes. The only thing I am unsure of is if I am running too many squads of Necron Warriors and Immortals and sacraficing the option of having other better units on the field.
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One has to wonder. Do the Tyranids consider drop-assault troops... fast food?
p5freak wrote: You never cut DDAs, because they are the best unit necrons have. I have never ever seen a competitive list without them. Dont use deathmarks, they are so bad. You want 6 destroyers, because of RP, harder to wipe out. Doom scythes are only good because of their stratagem, amalgamated taregeting data. But you need three of them. If your opponent kills one doom scythe you cant use the stratagem anymore. You really should replace the 3 doom scythes with 3 DDAs. Cut the lychguard and get more wraith. 20 warriors are pretty bad when you dont have the immortal pride warlord trait. You have imotekh, so he is going to be your warlord, to give you +1CP.
So I am taking your advice and keeping the DDAs instead of the doom scythes, I am still on the fence about deathmarks, but for the time being I'm cutting them to make room for some tomb blades and wraiths, I will post an updated list when I can
p5freak wrote: You never cut DDAs, because they are the best unit necrons have. I have never ever seen a competitive list without them. Dont use deathmarks, they are so bad. You want 6 destroyers, because of RP, harder to wipe out. Doom scythes are only good because of their stratagem, amalgamated taregeting data. But you need three of them. If your opponent kills one doom scythe you cant use the stratagem anymore. You really should replace the 3 doom scythes with 3 DDAs. Cut the lychguard and get more wraith. 20 warriors are pretty bad when you dont have the immortal pride warlord trait. You have imotekh, so he is going to be your warlord, to give you +1CP.
So I am taking your advice and keeping the DDAs instead of the doom scythes, I am still on the fence about deathmarks, but for the time being I'm cutting them to make room for some tomb blades and wraiths, I will post an updated list when I can
If you want to be competitive, drop the Deathmarks. They're only marginally effective against certain armies and there are very few right now that actually fit reserves into their army during competitive play and with the wording as it is. Tyranid armies can just not be shot at using some of their own rules to get more models on the board.
If it was a Space Marine army, dropping units onto the field. I'd say that you would have more of a reason to take them.
One has to wonder. Do the Tyranids consider drop-assault troops... fast food?
