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With the quarantine giving me more time to work on the hobby i decided to try green stuff, but GW store is closed. Was wondering if there were any brick and mortar places in the US that people knew carried either green stuff or the equivalent of it before I bought via the net. Any and all help is welcomed and appreciated.

My local model/hobby store had Apoxie Sculpt A B product. I am new to all this and was told it is the same product. This is preferred by modelers / railroaders. Comes in two plastic canisters. Try traditional modeling type places vs game stores. They will have this or something similar.

Hawaiian_Shirt_Harry wrote:
With the quarantine giving me more time to work on the hobby i decided to try green stuff, but GW store is closed. Was wondering if there were any brick and mortar places in the US that people knew carried either green stuff or the equivalent of it before I bought via the net. Any and all help is welcomed and appreciated.

You can find it pretty easily by searching for “kneadatite” which is the actual name for the product. GW just repackages it. I know Amazon and eBay both sell kneadatite. But if you want to go with a gaming store (which is probably a good idea since they’ve gotta be hurting right now!). I know there are a couple of FLGSes in my area that will mail it. Gamers Corps in Maryland had some. And I’d assume Games and Stuff, also in Maryland, has some as they typically have a robust stock. Both are open for web-based and phone-based orders and are shipping out product daily.

Just checked and Gamers Corps does show some in their store:

https://www.gamers-corps.store/product/army-painter-green-stuff/174

Games and Stuff doesn’t have a web cart, but they will take email or phone orders to pull products for shipping:

http://www.gamesandstuffonline.com/

Oh, and I believe Apoxie Sculpt is a slightly different product.

Valete,

JohnS

Spoons71 wrote:
My local model/hobby store had Apoxie Sculpt A B product. I am new to all this and was told it is the same product.

Apoxie sculpt is a two-part epoxy, and is good 'n' useful, but not even close.

Apoxie sculpt feels like a soft, waxy clay when freshly mixed, is slightly water-soluble, cures hard and can be easy scraped and sanded afterwards.

Green stuff, gov'mint name Kneadatite Blue/Yellow as Cygnnus says, is more like stiff chewing gum when mixed, water-resistant (making tool lubrication with water a less messy affair), remains slightly rubbery when cured, and doesn't take as kindly to filing or sanding afterwards.

Both useful but... how do I put this? It's like black priming vs. white priming. Both doing the same basic job but needing a slightly different approach.

If you can find procreate putty, that's very good too. Falls more on the side of 'rubbery' putty, but not as extreme as green stuff.

Then there's Milliput, another two-party epoxy putty for hobbyists. It's grey and seems to be a bit harder than greenstuff. This can be found at Hobby Lobby, among other places.

Most hardware stores will have some form of epoxy putty in their adhesives section, although I have no idea if any of them are any good for hobby applications. I would recommend them only as a last resort, or for use as binder/filler instead of as a sculpting material.

I used to get kneadite at the hardware store, thought it was Home Depot but I don't see it on the site.

Anyways, cheaper when you buy in bulk. I had a couple huge tubes that lasted me a couple years. I mostly use Super Sculpt and Procreate these days.

@vermis ... Thanks for the explanation. Makes total sense and, now, I understand how/what I would use each for with models.

Put it another way: if there was a spectrum of sculpting putties running fron 'wettable clay' to 'springy gum', green stuff is way to one end, and the only thing I know that's further to the other end than apoxie sculpt (albeit by a margin) is milliput.

I could've said more about the uses, too. Because apoxie sculpt is soft when mixed, hard when cured, and cheaper than green stuff, it lends itself to massing out a sculpt. Because it's got less 'memory' than green stuff (that stiff, springy quality that makes GS deform around a tool, to a certain degree, and even spring back a little.) and smooths so well, it's decent for more hard-edged, mechanical details. Though because it's so soft when just mixed, it's best to let it harden a bit before finishing very small details. It's long working window helps there.

Mind you, green stuff's memory is less of an issue since the makers started recommending more of the softer yellow part in a standard mix, and even started selling the strips with more yellow.

Then there's what happens when you mix a bit of green stuff with a bit of apoxie sculpt (or milliput, or magic sculp, or brown stuff, or...) which is pretty great. The sharpness and smoothability of one, but with GS helping to hold it together; or loosening GS up a bit. Depends which side you approach it from.

 Vulcan wrote:
Most hardware stores will have some form of epoxy putty in their adhesives section, although I have no idea if any of them are any good for hobby applications. I would recommend them only as a last resort, or for use as binder/filler instead of as a sculpting material.

Agreed. Most I see round here are five-minute epoxies, which might be alright for quickly filling big gaps, bulking out a shape, or fixing armatures. For taking your time to sculpt fiddly details and gently feather surfaces, nah.

Y'know, I'm looking around and my problem's almost the opposite of Harry's: green stuff inna tube seems to have become as rare as hen's teeth among online sellers in the UK, or overpriced. I see Sylmasta selling it under their own label, and some other sellers offering it at almost £20 a pop (!) Next best thing looks to be Green Stuff World in Spain.

Thank you for responding to my question everybody, I will look into the different types and see what I can find.