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Can you use it in the start of the enemy psychic phase and it lasts the entire phase, ie any power trying to manifest within the reach of any BT unit can be nullified on a 4+ or is it a single unit use?

Have you read the stratagem ?

The full text of the stratagem would be useful to help answer the question. If it's the one I'm thinking of the rule itself tells you exactly when it's used. Check the rules for the Psychic phase and the process for manifesting a psychic power and it should become clearer.

I have read the stratagem yes, and still i'm not sure so hence the question, thank you SO much for the less then helpful replies

I dont think you have read the stratagem, because its very clear when its used.



Does it say that its used at the start of the opponents psychic phase to deny ALL enemy psychic powers on 4+ ? No, it doesnt.

Garlando wrote:
I have read the stratagem yes, and still i'm not sure so hence the question, thank you SO much for the less then helpful replies

Please post the exact text of the ability, and people will be happy to help.

 p5freak wrote:
I dont think you have read the stratagem, because its very clear when its used.

Spoiler:

Does it say that its used at the start of the opponents psychic phase to deny ALL enemy psychic powers on 4+ ? No, it doesnt.

No, but it does say units, plural, which I would interpret as it stays active for the duration of the phase once used, 1cp does seem kind of cheap tho, which is why I was unsure

Garlando wrote:

 p5freak wrote:
I dont think you have read the stratagem, because its very clear when its used.

Spoiler:

Does it say that its used at the start of the opponents psychic phase to deny ALL enemy psychic powers on 4+ ? No, it doesnt.

No, but it does say units, plural, which I would interpret as it stays active for the duration of the phase once used, 1cp does seem kind of cheap tho, which is why I was unsure

It says any units.

Which means if there is any unit within the distance you can use the strat.

 Stux wrote:

Garlando wrote:
I have read the stratagem yes, and still i'm not sure so hence the question, thank you SO much for the less then helpful replies

Please post the exact text of the ability, and people will be happy to help.

"Use this stratagem in your opponent's Psychic phase, when an enemy psyker model manifests a psychic power within 24" of any Black Templars units from your army, after any Deny the Witch attempts have been made. Roll one D6; on a 4+ that psychic power is resisted"

The way I see it, you activate it in the start of the phase and it applies to all units that are in range of a psyker manifesting a power, I could be wrong however

Garlando wrote:
"Use this stratagem in your opponent's Psychic phase, when an enemy psyker model manifests a psychic power within 24" of any Black Templars units from your army, after any Deny the Witch attempts have been made. Roll one D6; on a 4+ that psychic power is resisted"

The way I see it, you activate it in the start of the phase and it applies to all units that are in range of a psyker manifesting a power, I could be wrong however

How did you come to that conclusion?

When do you use the Strat?

Which psychic power is resisted?

Answer those questions and you will know that it is one use only.

Garlando wrote:

The way I see it, you activate it in the start of the phase and it applies to all units that are in range of a psyker manifesting a power, I could be wrong however

Thats not how its played, its not even close. One enemy psyker manifests a psychic power, you play the stratagem if any BT units are within 24" of that psyker, and that manifested psychic power is resisted on 4+. Its against one manifested psychic power, thats all.

 p5freak wrote:

Garlando wrote:

The way I see it, you activate it in the start of the phase and it applies to all units that are in range of a psyker manifesting a power, I could be wrong however

Thats not how its played, its not even close. One enemy psyker manifests a psychic power, you play the stratagem if any BT units are within 24" of that psyker, and that manifested psychic power is resisted on 4+. Its against one manifested psychic power, thats all.

Well that was all I wanted to know, cheers.

would have been a lot shorter thread if that had been said initially but hey, we took the scenic route and got there in the end

Garlando wrote:

 p5freak wrote:

Garlando wrote:

The way I see it, you activate it in the start of the phase and it applies to all units that are in range of a psyker manifesting a power, I could be wrong however

Thats not how its played, its not even close. One enemy psyker manifests a psychic power, you play the stratagem if any BT units are within 24" of that psyker, and that manifested psychic power is resisted on 4+. Its against one manifested psychic power, thats all.

Well that was all I wanted to know, cheers.

would have been a lot shorter thread if that had been said initially but hey, we took the scenic route and got there in the end

The reason for the replies you got was because this is actually a pretty straight forward, non-controversial stratagem that I've literally never seen anyone question the timing on. Therefore I think people (including myself) were trying to help you out by getting you to read and fully parse the text because that will help your understanding of the rules in the future. Just saying "this is how it works" is less helpful than trying to guide someone through the logic behind it working a certain way. Also, the rules of the forum do require rules text to be put into any question.

Garlando wrote:
"Use this stratagem in your opponent's Psychic phase, when an enemy psyker model manifests a psychic power within 24" of any Black Templars units from your army, after any Deny the Witch attempts have been made. Roll one D6; on a 4+ that psychic power is resisted"

The way I see it, you activate it in the start of the phase and it applies to all units that are in range of a psyker manifesting a power, I could be wrong however

Look at punctuation.

First sentence :
"Use this stratagem in your opponent's Psychic phase, when an enemy psyker model manifests a psychic power within 24" of any Black Templars units from your army, after any Deny the Witch attempts have been made. "
So, when can you use the stratagem? Explicitly NOT at the start of the phase. You can only use the stratagem AFTER a psychic power have been cast, and AFTER the Deny the Witch attempts for that specific power were made.

Now that we know when we can use the stratagem, what does the stratagem do?
"Roll one D6; on a 4+ that psychic power is resisted"
Emphasis mine. So, only one power get resisted.

Your interpretation would work with a slightly different punctuation, though. If it was written:
"Use this stratagem in your opponent's Psychic phase. When an enemy psyker model manifests a psychic power within 24" of any Black Templars units from your army, after any Deny the Witch attempts have been made, roll one D6; on a 4+ that psychic power is resisted"
I just exchanged a point and a colon and now it's your interpretation that is the right one.

Devil's in the detail I guess?

As the others have stated, it's no good to just give you the answer if you can't explain it if it comes up in a game.