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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/01 08:51:41
Subject: Will there be April FAQ?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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So it is already may  .
Any news? Rumours? Anything?
I cannot find any information about FAQ being postponed or cancelled neither.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/01 09:08:29
Subject: Will there be April FAQ?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Pft! Being able to write an FAQ from home? Preposterous!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/01 09:58:40
Subject: Will there be April FAQ?
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Battleship Captain
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Really GW seem happy with how the game is so I'm not we'll have a Big FAQ. By "big" I mean they won't change anything fundamental about how the game plays like when they changed the Deep Strike rules or Smite.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/01 10:39:26
Subject: Will there be April FAQ?
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Oozing Plague Marine Terminator
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Usually they used tournament Data for their FAQs, with most tournaments now cancelled they might be waiting for when games start again.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/01 10:40:15
Subject: Will there be April FAQ?
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
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In imagine there will be something (even if it's a post saying no changes needed), but certainly not until the pandemic it's over, and games workshop is back to normal. This has delayed everything, and I can imagine an faq isn't high on the list of priorities atm ha ha.
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Wolfspear's 2k
Harlequins 2k
Chaos Knights 2k
Spiderfangs 2k
Ossiarch Bonereapers 1k |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/01 10:42:28
Subject: Will there be April FAQ?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Sgt. Cortez wrote:Usually they used tournament Data for their FAQs, with most tournaments now cancelled they might be waiting for when games start again.
Perhaps they could finally get around to fixing Assault weapons.
It's only been four years, after all!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/01 10:47:58
Subject: Will there be April FAQ?
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Oozing Plague Marine Terminator
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Lord Damocles wrote:Sgt. Cortez wrote:Usually they used tournament Data for their FAQs, with most tournaments now cancelled they might be waiting for when games start again.
Perhaps they could finally get around to fixing Assault weapons.
It's only been four years, after all!
Maybe this is a non-problem for them, as BCB is the only guy on the planet to misunderstand that rule
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/01 10:54:35
Subject: Will there be April FAQ?
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Sgt. Cortez wrote: Lord Damocles wrote:Sgt. Cortez wrote:Usually they used tournament Data for their FAQs, with most tournaments now cancelled they might be waiting for when games start again.
Perhaps they could finally get around to fixing Assault weapons.
It's only been four years, after all!
Maybe this is a non-problem for them, as BCB is the only guy on the planet to misunderstand that rule 
It'd still nice if they fixed the wording up.
and by far it not the only exemple of RAI and RAW beeing heavily in conflict and notthing beeing done about it, cough command vox net cough...
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/01 12:07:32
Subject: Will there be April FAQ?
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
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What's the issue with assault weapons? I've never had a problem with how they work.
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Wolfspear's 2k
Harlequins 2k
Chaos Knights 2k
Spiderfangs 2k
Ossiarch Bonereapers 1k |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/01 12:15:46
Subject: Will there be April FAQ?
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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jaredb wrote:What's the issue with assault weapons? I've never had a problem with how they work.
By strict raw the text as written disalows the use of them after advancing, even though RAI is pretty clear.
it's mostly consistency issues of the writing with it. Nothing too important but it'd be still nice if they'd have fixed it by now.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/01 12:52:10
Subject: Will there be April FAQ?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Yeah, I believe the wording is (roughly) that Assault weapons allow a model to shoot after it Advanced when the unit would be able to fire, but the wording of Advancing precludes you from selecting the unit with such models in to be able to shoot.
Most people won't even notice, and play it as everyone - even BCB, I think - agrees the RAI interpretation is, but RAW you can't shoot after Advancing with Assault weapons.
Which may be worth keeping in the back pocket if you end up playing against a tool of a TFG...
As to the Spring FAQ question, it might be worth bringing it up on one of the Twitch streams, or emailing GW about (or asking on FB, etc). Even if they just put up a post on WHC saying they're not doing one this time, people would appreciate knowing.
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/01 13:23:11
Subject: Will there be April FAQ?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I would expect there to be no faq. There has not been enough time since the december faq with actual games happening to see what the current state of the game is and if something needs changing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/01 13:33:30
Subject: Will there be April FAQ?
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Norn Queen
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Dysartes wrote:Yeah, I believe the wording is (roughly) that Assault weapons allow a model to shoot after it Advanced when the unit would be able to fire, but the wording of Advancing precludes you from selecting the unit with such models in to be able to shoot. Most people won't even notice, and play it as everyone - even BCB, I think - agrees the RAI interpretation is, but RAW you can't shoot after Advancing with Assault weapons. Which may be worth keeping in the back pocket if you end up playing against a tool of a TFG... As to the Spring FAQ question, it might be worth bringing it up on one of the Twitch streams, or emailing GW about (or asking on FB, etc). Even if they just put up a post on WHC saying they're not doing one this time, people would appreciate knowing.
You are correct, even I realise what the rule probably, maybe, is meant to do. The fact it doesn't do it doesn't change because you really wish it did though. GW literally have to release errata for books before they go on sale, hiring someone for minimum wage to work from home to write FAQs is clearly too complicated for them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/01 14:01:29
Subject: Will there be April FAQ?
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
Vigo. Spain.
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After the changes on the February FAQ to marines, there has not been enough tournament data to see how things are panning out. In general, the FAQ has worked and the diversity has skyrocketed, space marines aren't dominant anymore.
So I doubt we will have a April FAQ, at least one that changes things significatly. Probably , if it exist, will be small things.
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Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/01 14:32:34
Subject: Will there be April FAQ?
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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BaconCatBug wrote: Dysartes wrote:Yeah, I believe the wording is (roughly) that Assault weapons allow a model to shoot after it Advanced when the unit would be able to fire, but the wording of Advancing precludes you from selecting the unit with such models in to be able to shoot.
Most people won't even notice, and play it as everyone - even BCB, I think - agrees the RAI interpretation is, but RAW you can't shoot after Advancing with Assault weapons.
Which may be worth keeping in the back pocket if you end up playing against a tool of a TFG...
As to the Spring FAQ question, it might be worth bringing it up on one of the Twitch streams, or emailing GW about (or asking on FB, etc). Even if they just put up a post on WHC saying they're not doing one this time, people would appreciate knowing.
You are correct, even I realise what the rule probably, maybe, is meant to do. The fact it doesn't do it doesn't change because you really wish it did though.
GW literally have to release errata for books before they go on sale, hiring someone for minimum wage to work from home to write FAQs is clearly too complicated for them.
I'm still curious if you would actually try to enforce it in a game though since you know what it actually means and you are just being pedantic about it to show how bad the wording of the rules are (which we all agree on)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/01 14:55:43
Subject: Will there be April FAQ?
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Norn Queen
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Wayniac wrote: BaconCatBug wrote: Dysartes wrote:Yeah, I believe the wording is (roughly) that Assault weapons allow a model to shoot after it Advanced when the unit would be able to fire, but the wording of Advancing precludes you from selecting the unit with such models in to be able to shoot. Most people won't even notice, and play it as everyone - even BCB, I think - agrees the RAI interpretation is, but RAW you can't shoot after Advancing with Assault weapons. Which may be worth keeping in the back pocket if you end up playing against a tool of a TFG... As to the Spring FAQ question, it might be worth bringing it up on one of the Twitch streams, or emailing GW about (or asking on FB, etc). Even if they just put up a post on WHC saying they're not doing one this time, people would appreciate knowing.
You are correct, even I realise what the rule probably, maybe, is meant to do. The fact it doesn't do it doesn't change because you really wish it did though. GW literally have to release errata for books before they go on sale, hiring someone for minimum wage to work from home to write FAQs is clearly too complicated for them.
I'm still curious if you would actually try to enforce it in a game though since you know what it actually means and you are just being pedantic about it to show how bad the wording of the rules are (which we all agree on)
As can be attested by several people, I am a generous god and allow my opponents to not follow the RaW. However, I require myself to follow the RaW strictly, which means no shooting after advancing without a detachment/warlord trait allowing me to do so, and I don't fall back from combat unless the unit has FLY, etc. Argent Shroud and Exemplar of the Mont'ka are very important to my lists and makes some units such as Shoota Boyz and ABR Intercessors sub-optimal for my purposes. I feel this is a fair middle ground.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/01 15:00:49
Subject: Will there be April FAQ?
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Fixture of Dakka
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My part of europe has a long standing tradition of rules and laws being passed or put in action, where different intentions were claimed by the law givers and where the extrem was claimed to never happened, because all people would know that the rule shouldn't effect some specific something, yet in the end the stuff people feared always happened in the ends, sometimes worse then people imagined.
Lazy or shody rules writing can not be excused with the argument that people will just fix it themselfs, or that they will house rule it.
Also expecting a new player that the book they just bought, with real money, is full of errors, and in fact the rules say something different, is something that can make people very unhappy at best, and quit the game at worse.
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If you have to kill, then kill in the best manner. If you slaughter, then slaughter in the best manner. Let one of you sharpen his knife so his animal feels no pain. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/01 15:11:13
Subject: Will there be April FAQ?
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Norn Queen
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I disagree. If I bought a rulebook, read the rules, went for a game and everyone there told me "We don't like the rules so we changed them", I'd be frustrated.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/01 15:53:16
Subject: Re:Will there be April FAQ?
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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They need to clean up the mess they made with Tempestus Scions in the Greater Good....that would be nice.
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.Only a fool believes there is such a thing as price gouging. Things have value determined by the creator or merchant. If you don't agree with that value, you are free not to purchase. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/01 16:02:35
Subject: Will there be April FAQ?
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Galas wrote:After the changes on the February FAQ to marines, there has not been enough tournament data to see how things are panning out.
You don't need tournament data to figure out what's wrong with 40K.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/01 16:39:46
Subject: Will there be April FAQ?
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Lord Damocles wrote:Sgt. Cortez wrote:Usually they used tournament Data for their FAQs, with most tournaments now cancelled they might be waiting for when games start again.
Perhaps they could finally get around to fixing Assault weapons.
It's only been four years, after all!
They're not broken. RAI.
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Galas wrote:After the changes on the February FAQ to marines, there has not been enough tournament data to see how things are panning out. In general, the FAQ has worked and the diversity has skyrocketed, space marines aren't dominant anymore.
So I doubt we will have a April FAQ, at least one that changes things significatly. Probably , if it exist, will be small things.
I think marines are still pretty broken, but only time will tell. I really wish they had just made them cheaper.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/01 16:50:24
Subject: Will there be April FAQ?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Considering we are pretty close to 9th ed and there have been next to no tournaments since the last update, I'm guessing no big FAQ. When will GW announce 9th ed, right after they are done selling us all of PA for 8th ed.
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Constantly being negative doesn't make you seem erudite, it just makes you look like a curmudgeon. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/01 16:51:02
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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This ^^^^^^^^^.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/01 17:06:50
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Are we actually close to 9th Ed though? It's only been three years of 8th.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/01 17:07:26
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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There's been more than enough change. I still think GW is going to get of tripointing, too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/01 17:09:56
Subject: Will there be April FAQ?
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Martel732 wrote:There's been more than enough change. I still think GW is going to get of tripointing, too.
I dunno about the first part, but nixing some of the fiddly parts of the game like tripointing would be nice, as long as there's some other mechanic to lock up combats.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/01 17:11:12
Subject: Will there be April FAQ?
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Oh, there won't be. It's GW. They had no idea tripointing existed when they wrote fall back. They've just declined to faq it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/01 17:44:43
Subject: Will there be April FAQ?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Insectum7 wrote:Are we actually close to 9th Ed though? It's only been three years of 8th.
Sure. We're closer to 9th today than we were yesterday.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/01 17:54:41
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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Insectum7 wrote:Are we actually close to 9th Ed though? It's only been three years of 8th.
That's one more year than 6th isn't it?
Insectum7 wrote:Martel732 wrote:There's been more than enough change. I still think GW is going to get of tripointing, too.
I dunno about the first part, but nixing some of the fiddly parts of the game like tripointing would be nice, as long as there's some other mechanic to lock up combats.
A return to the 3rd edition trial assault rules would be nice.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/01 17:59:10
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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I don't know, but I find it impossible to believe the same company and playtesters that missed conscripts and bobby G stormravens somehow intended tripointing.
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