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That comment was about stuff that's already out, not this release. I'm guess I'm flattered you care so much about my opinion, but I'm not sure getting so invested in what a stranger on the internet thinks about something is very healthy?

Azreal13 wrote:Primario Kart, surely?

Yes!

Is this new box the new starter?

Bschwi1 wrote:
Is this new box the new starter?

Yes, but marketed as a 'launch box' so they don't have to include gameplay basics and probably can ask a higher price.

changemod wrote:
Oh, I really dislike those warriors being all dinged up and damaged. The entire point is extremely efficient self repair.

May be easier and more forgiving for newer hobbyists to paint them perhaps?.

 Hanskrampf wrote:

Bschwi1 wrote:
Is this new box the new starter?

Yes, but marketed as a 'launch box' so they don't have to include gameplay basics and probably can ask a higher price.

some people are also suggesting that this could be limited time and include some exclusives and that the starter box will have a few less characters

A starter box could be totally different armies. GW might also be abandoning typical starters and going with a different market approach such as pushing individual army "Getting Started" sets rather than a big-box with two armies which whilst neat, does only promote two armies en-mass.

BrianDavion wrote:

 Hanskrampf wrote:

Bschwi1 wrote:
Is this new box the new starter?

Yes, but marketed as a 'launch box' so they don't have to include gameplay basics and probably can ask a higher price.

some people are also suggesting that this could be limited time and include some exclusives and that the starter box will have a few less characters

The fact the bikes, intercessors, captain and lieutenant are all on separate sprues suggests any number of those could be taken out. The rest of the marines are all on 1 sprue, so hard to say but I imagine as above either specific faction starters or a marines v necrons with less in.

 Shrapnelsmile wrote:

changemod wrote:
Oh, I really dislike those warriors being all dinged up and damaged. The entire point is extremely efficient self repair.

May be easier and more forgiving for newer hobbyists to paint them perhaps?.

No, it's just fluff.

As far back as like 3rd edition Necron lore, Warriors have always had battle damaged hulls. In the 5E+ lore it's explained that warriors as the bottom-rung of Necron society have the worst healing capabilities, but even before Ward's overhaul they had imperfect living metal.


This picture is what, 15-20 years old at this point, along with being the book cover on two codices? It's essentially revisionism to insist that Warriors can't carry battle-damage.

BrianDavion wrote:

 Hanskrampf wrote:

Bschwi1 wrote:
Is this new box the new starter?

Yes, but marketed as a 'launch box' so they don't have to include gameplay basics and probably can ask a higher price.

some people are also suggesting that this could be limited time and include some exclusives and that the starter box will have a few less characters

They said on the stream that it is limited (not the latter parts of your post though)

 Overread wrote:
A starter box could be totally different armies. GW might also be abandoning typical starters and going with a different market approach such as pushing individual army "Getting Started" sets rather than a big-box with two armies which whilst neat, does only promote two armies en-mass.

Doubtful. The Necrons have been front and centre of all their 9th marketing, from the trailer to the new website and the 'get started' updates in the same way Death Guard were for 8th. I reckon it's more than likely Necrons, especially with Dark Imperium going bye-bye (as opposed to them just sticking the updated rulebook into it).

Umbros wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Hanskrampf wrote:

Bschwi1 wrote:
Is this new box the new starter?

Yes, but marketed as a 'launch box' so they don't have to include gameplay basics and probably can ask a higher price.

some people are also suggesting that this could be limited time and include some exclusives and that the starter box will have a few less characters

They said on the stream that it is limited (not the latter parts of your post though)

They definitely said that some stuff in the box is exclusive. I'd be unsurprised if some of it remained exclusive forever, like the Gravis captain from the other box.

JWBS wrote:

They definitely said that some stuff in the box is exclusive. I'd be unsurprised if some of it remained exclusive forever, like the Gravis captain from the other box.

looking at the Lord Relictor from AoS Stormcast that is still only available via 1st Edition Starter/Faction Set

I think the exclusives will be any where the models share a sprue between the armies. The Necron and Space Marines share at least two character sprue with each other. Those are kits very likely to be limited only to that box or to any future joint box between them.

That means either GW will replace them with similar role models in the future or will resculpt and release them separate at a point in the future.

 kodos wrote:

JWBS wrote:

They definitely said that some stuff in the box is exclusive. I'd be unsurprised if some of it remained exclusive forever, like the Gravis captain from the other box.

looking at the Lord Relictor from AoS Stormcast that is still only available via 1st Edition Starter/Faction Set

Skeletor? He's in the Start Collecting.

 Overread wrote:
I think the exclusives will be any where the models share a sprue between the armies. The Necron and Space Marines share at least two character sprue with each other. Those are kits very likely to be limited only to that box or to any future joint box between them.

That means either GW will replace them with similar role models in the future or will resculpt and release them separate at a point in the future.

Have we seen sprue pics/layouts?

 Nevelon wrote:

 Overread wrote:
I think the exclusives will be any where the models share a sprue between the armies. The Necron and Space Marines share at least two character sprue with each other. Those are kits very likely to be limited only to that box or to any future joint box between them.

That means either GW will replace them with similar role models in the future or will resculpt and release them separate at a point in the future.

Have we seen sprue pics/layouts?

They are in the twitch stream near the start when they first open the box.

The unique leaders were joined - the rest of the regular warriors etc.... were all separate sprue.

 Arbitrator wrote:

 kodos wrote:

JWBS wrote:

They definitely said that some stuff in the box is exclusive. I'd be unsurprised if some of it remained exclusive forever, like the Gravis captain from the other box.

looking at the Lord Relictor from AoS Stormcast that is still only available via 1st Edition Starter/Faction Set

Skeletor? He's in the Start Collecting.

The Thunderstrike Brotherhood is just the Stormcast half of the 1st Edition Starter Set

 Overread wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:

 Overread wrote:
I think the exclusives will be any where the models share a sprue between the armies. The Necron and Space Marines share at least two character sprue with each other. Those are kits very likely to be limited only to that box or to any future joint box between them.

That means either GW will replace them with similar role models in the future or will resculpt and release them separate at a point in the future.

Have we seen sprue pics/layouts?

They are in the twitch stream near the start when they first open the box.

The unique leaders were joined - the rest of the regular warriors etc.... were all separate sprue.

Thanks. I missed the stream and just read the WarCom article. Really interested in seeing the layout. I think it would give us some insight to the non limited box. They’ve done the exclusive mini in the first run before, So I could see them doing the same again here. How much would be missed, vs. how much would be saved by waiting. GW is not going to tell us, as they want us to grab the new box.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I will do tomorrow, trying not to influence her, it's going to be interesting .

BrianDavion, I can say that you were right! Both my mother and my father said the model looked more like the batmobile than Mario Kart. They mentioned colors and realism vs cartoonish proportions.

StarHunter25 wrote:
I'm really looking forward to the new Tyranid models GW will give us. We're getting more bugs right? .. ... ...

Right?

They haven't said anything directly but I'm reading it that while the Imperium was focused on Chaos largely the Xenos forces have risen as a major threat again- the Necrons being the first of this. So hopefully they will revisit other Xenos factions now, the Necron refresh looks fantastic so im hoping for similar [maybe not as extensive] for Nids- a few clam pack critters and maybe a centrepiece model along with a few models getting upgraded form resin to plastic kits. The Eavy Metal guy talked about them revisiting ranges to refresh them so its obviously something they are doing for all the factions, especially having left them for so long [6-7 years since the last Nid kits?]. Really excited about seeing new Nid models done in with this new sculpting approach. I wonder if we might see new breeds of Fex in a kit, similar to the Destroyers, as adaptions from the Octarius War.
I do like the look for these new Necrons in the meantime though..

OK, found the sprue pics over at War of Sigmar

Captain + Necron guy joined
Lt + Necron guy joined

Now it looks like they could spin these up and clip and sell separate. If they need to do more of one side recycle the other half? But the fact that they are joined strikes me as these might be restricted to this box, part of a generic SM/Necron started, and not for general release. That’s just me guessing.

Assault Intercessors, 2 duplicated sprues of 5. While monopose, it looks like all the arms and heads are set of for easy swapping. None of the shoulder pad and half the arm molded with the torso we saw with the DI intercessors that made them rough to mod.

Chaplain, Justicar, ancient, bladeguard, melta gunners all one big sprue. These characters are not going to show up in clam packs, and this collection of minis would be very odd for a SC! box. Might be the core of a starter set once we get past the limited release.

Bikes, 3 of them on their own. Might release as an ETB kit. Heads/arms look to be easy swaps, so if they do get options later, will be easy to mod, or replace the sarge with a normal guy if you want a larger squad.

I don’t speak necron, so no guesses on how those sprues are broken up.

 BlaxicanX wrote:

 Shrapnelsmile wrote:

changemod wrote:
Oh, I really dislike those warriors being all dinged up and damaged. The entire point is extremely efficient self repair.

May be easier and more forgiving for newer hobbyists to paint them perhaps?.

No, it's just fluff.

As far back as like 3rd edition Necron lore, Warriors have always had battle damaged hulls. In the 5E+ lore it's explained that warriors as the bottom-rung of Necron society have the worst healing capabilities, but even before Ward's overhaul they had imperfect living metal.

Spoiler:

This picture is what, 15-20 years old at this point, along with being the book cover on two codices? It's essentially revisionism to insist that Warriors can't carry battle-damage.

I’m not really sure why you’re using a picture of warriors in near-perfect condition as your example.

 kodos wrote:

 Arbitrator wrote:

 kodos wrote:

JWBS wrote:

They definitely said that some stuff in the box is exclusive. I'd be unsurprised if some of it remained exclusive forever, like the Gravis captain from the other box.

looking at the Lord Relictor from AoS Stormcast that is still only available via 1st Edition Starter/Faction Set

Skeletor? He's in the Start Collecting.

The Thunderstrike Brotherhood is just the Stormcast half of the 1st Edition Starter Set

I'm not sure I understand your point then. I assumed by 'exclusive' you meant now OOP.

 Overread wrote:

They are in the twitch stream near the start when they first open the box.

The unique leaders were joined - the rest of the regular warriors etc.... were all separate sprue.

Wild and outlandish theory time!!!!!

The 'starter sets' will feature those leader models and some of the sprues we saw yesterday. The sprue makeups allow for incremental increases.

 Arbitrator wrote:

I'm not sure I understand your point then. I assumed by 'exclusive' you meant now OOP.

no, by exclusive I meant no stand alone release and/or only available in a box-set

as I think that we will se a faction release for the Veteran-Player box-set after the "limited" edition is out and stuff like the Judicar will be anly availabe with those boxes

 Nevelon wrote:
OK, found the sprue pics over at War of Sigmar

Captain + Necron guy joined
Lt + Necron guy joined

Now it looks like they could spin these up and clip and sell separate. If they need to do more of one side recycle the other half? But the fact that they are joined strikes me as these might be restricted to this box, part of a generic SM/Necron started, and not for general release. That’s just me guessing.

The characters are just joined by a bridge, not actually on the same sprue. The heroes from Warhammer Quest: Silver Tower were joined the same way when that box released, but they were eventually released individually. I would expect to see the same thing here.


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changemod wrote:

 BlaxicanX wrote:

 Shrapnelsmile wrote:

changemod wrote:
Oh, I really dislike those warriors being all dinged up and damaged. The entire point is extremely efficient self repair.

May be easier and more forgiving for newer hobbyists to paint them perhaps?.

No, it's just fluff.

As far back as like 3rd edition Necron lore, Warriors have always had battle damaged hulls. In the 5E+ lore it's explained that warriors as the bottom-rung of Necron society have the worst healing capabilities, but even before Ward's overhaul they had imperfect living metal.

Spoiler:

This picture is what, 15-20 years old at this point, along with being the book cover on two codices? It's essentially revisionism to insist that Warriors can't carry battle-damage.

I’m not really sure why you’re using a picture of warriors in near-perfect condition as your example.

The Warrior who's front a center of that image has lots of dents and dings. It's not to the extent of the previewed Warriors, but he's far from perfect.

 EnTyme wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:
OK, found the sprue pics over at War of Sigmar

Captain + Necron guy joined
Lt + Necron guy joined

Now it looks like they could spin these up and clip and sell separate. If they need to do more of one side recycle the other half? But the fact that they are joined strikes me as these might be restricted to this box, part of a generic SM/Necron started, and not for general release. That’s just me guessing.

The characters are just joined by a bridge, not actually on the same sprue. The heroes from Warhammer Quest: Silver Tower were joined the same way when that box released, but they were eventually released individually. I would expect to see the same thing here.

Nice to hear that GW can and does do that. Seeing the separate characters on their own sprues, but the frames linked together seemed an odd choice. Probably makes it easier to pack the box.

There’s several damaged warriors on the ghost arch. The heads are the only parts that can be mixed into other squads.
The book cover is the only part that I heard was exclusive to the box set.

 BaconCatBug wrote:

Spoiler:

Cawl is a secret troll confirmed.

That makes me think of this for some reason.







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Also it's pretty funny that the dune buggy lacks a roll cage, but the invictor has one? IDK man, maybe the build instructions were to blame.