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So close yet so far...someone get a hold of CSI.

Based on my own specialized tools it appears that lizurhgluizh is 29 points.

It looks like Sector Imperialis objectives are on 50mm bases like I suspected. Oops!

ENHANCE!

jullevi wrote:
It looks like Sector Imperialis objectives are on 50mm bases like I suspected. Oops!

Coins are 40mm at least.

And to be fair - those minis we're fitting on 40mm anyway. They're either going to be for conversions or narrative play.

Am I the only one concerned that there doesn't seem to be a digital version of the Core Rule Book up for pre-order on the NZ page?

 Daedalus81 wrote:
So close yet so far...someone get a hold of CSI.

Based on my own specialized tools it appears that lizurhgluizh is 29 points.

Holy crap my boomer eyes can't read it.

Maybe Superman could.

Sterling191 wrote:

 Daedalus81 wrote:

Oh so line of sight went away? I guess it was hard for a heavy bolter to reach across the table before.

Thank you for again willfully ignoring the fact that its a drop bunker that will innately deep strike to precisely where it needs to. Or for the fact that as a vehicle keyworded unit (yes, Imperium fortifications get that) it's going to be eligible for all kinds of bs. Or that it will inherit additional potency because its a Marine unit, and will interact with multiple force multipliers just for showing up.

I'm going to again mention the footprint of this model. Unless it has rules allowing it to deploy within 9" of enemy models, it's going to be harder to place it where you want than you seem to think it is.

 EnTyme wrote:

I'm going to again mention the footprint of this model. Unless it has rules allowing it to deploy within 9" of enemy models, it's going to be harder to place it where you want than you seem to think it is.

With 36" range guns, dropping onto a dime isnt necessary.

 EnTyme wrote:
I'm going to again mention the footprint of this model. Unless it has rules allowing it to deploy within 9" of enemy models, it's going to be harder to place it where you want than you seem to think it is.

I would rate the chances of special deepstrike rules as "decent". Otherwise why would you ever take the flamers?

Is that scenery on the board picture new a new scenery piece ?

Yes it is

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
Is that scenery on the board picture new a new scenery piece ?

Spoiler:

Yes.

Ha, only correct that H.B.M.C should discover it given his scenery collection.

 Galas wrote:
My problem with the Necron fortification it that it is boring. 40K team should learn from AoS theam how to make impactfull and usefull scenography. And here it has points so they can actually balance it.

"here's a big central pillar that feths your army with no counter play"

I really dislike a lot of AoS scenery for being just board covering nerfs for the enemy. Super annoying.

stratigo wrote:

 Galas wrote:
My problem with the Necron fortification it that it is boring. 40K team should learn from AoS theam how to make impactfull and usefull scenography. And here it has points so they can actually balance it.

"here's a big central pillar that feths your army with no counter play"

I really dislike a lot of AoS scenery for being just board covering nerfs for the enemy. Super annoying.

I mean, theres a ton of examples of good scenery pieces like the ogre one but yes, the ORB is just stupid.

stratigo wrote:

 Galas wrote:
My problem with the Necron fortification it that it is boring. 40K team should learn from AoS theam how to make impactfull and usefull scenography. And here it has points so they can actually balance it.

"here's a big central pillar that feths your army with no counter play"

I really dislike a lot of AoS scenery for being just board covering nerfs for the enemy. Super annoying.

Besides the Bonetithe Nexus, I'd say that most faction terrain really isn't that bad. Bonetithe is probably the most powerful faction terrain in the game though.

 Galas wrote:

stratigo wrote:

 Galas wrote:
My problem with the Necron fortification it that it is boring. 40K team should learn from AoS theam how to make impactfull and usefull scenography. And here it has points so they can actually balance it.

"here's a big central pillar that feths your army with no counter play"

I really dislike a lot of AoS scenery for being just board covering nerfs for the enemy. Super annoying.

I mean, theres a ton of examples of good scenery pieces like the ogre one but yes, the ORB is just stupid.

Yeah, there's some that are fine and fun.

I'm also salty that my faction didn't get any when they got an update (And then the elves stole the one schtick we did get)

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-NZ/Warhammer-40000-9th-Rulebook-Ltd-Ed-2020

Holy Terra! I nearly fell over when I saw the price on the collector book! NZ had it for $413!

Wait I thought pre orders were 10am pst? Did this change

stratigo wrote:

 Galas wrote:

stratigo wrote:

 Galas wrote:
My problem with the Necron fortification it that it is boring. 40K team should learn from AoS theam how to make impactfull and usefull scenography. And here it has points so they can actually balance it.

"here's a big central pillar that feths your army with no counter play"

I really dislike a lot of AoS scenery for being just board covering nerfs for the enemy. Super annoying.

I mean, theres a ton of examples of good scenery pieces like the ogre one but yes, the ORB is just stupid.

Yeah, there's some that are fine and fun.

I'm also salty that my faction didn't get any when they got an update (And then the elves stole the one schtick we did get)

Terrain needs to be nominal cost because most of the time it’s only supplementing the free ruins already in your deployment zone.
Like imperial statuary for 25pts because it offers little to no cover and mostly pointless morale buff for imperials..
Aegis for 40pts (plus normal costs for guns)
Even a bastion shouldn’t cost more then 55pts (plus any guns)
Things like the forgeshrine needs a rules overhaul.. no one is going to have a knight sit and do nothing for a nominal buff. Make it a once per game buff that last one turn and the knight just needs to start the game or begin a turn within 1in of it. And have it cost 50pts to either heal 1d3 wounds, add 6in to movement or reload missiles. Building and fortification rules and cost are GWS biggest rules issues.

SirGrotzalot wrote:
Wait I thought pre orders were 10am pst? Did this change

For the US they are. GW cuts the world into vaguely relevant time zones. In New Zealand, it's already tomorrow. This is when their preorders usually happen.


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 sarduka42 wrote:
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-NZ/Warhammer-40000-9th-Rulebook-Ltd-Ed-2020

Holy Terra! I nearly fell over when I saw the price on the collector book! NZ had it for $413!

Spoiler:

I'm just laughing because it's nearly 70 dollary-dos more than the box set with the rulebook.
Look, special covers and whatnot cost extra. But not that much extra.

Sterling191 wrote:

 EnTyme wrote:

I'm going to again mention the footprint of this model. Unless it has rules allowing it to deploy within 9" of enemy models, it's going to be harder to place it where you want than you seem to think it is.

With 36" range guns, dropping onto a dime isnt necessary.

It shouldn't be too hard to zone this thing out to where it has no choice but to land in a corner unless . . .

Trickstick wrote:I would rate the chances of special deepstrike rules as "decent". Otherwise why would you ever take the flamers?

Yeah. This.

SirGrotzalot wrote:
Wait I thought pre orders were 10am pst? Did this change

GW's pre-order times (change GMT to BST). The only time it changes is twice a year when Daylight Savings Time begins/ends as it does not line up exactly with British Summer Time. This has been GW's pre-order time for several years now...

 Daedalus81 wrote:
So close yet so far...someone get a hold of CSI.

Based on my own specialized tools it appears that lizurhgluizh is 29 points.

1.6mb picture...

Further proof that GW drops these leaks intentionally. It's 2020 and my $100 smartphone has a good enough camera that even a hasty snap while walking by would produce an image with enough pixels for you to blow it up and read the text.

Ah well. We'll get the real leaks soon enough.

 Ghaz wrote:
Am I the only one concerned that there doesn't seem to be a digital version of the Core Rule Book up for pre-order on the NZ page?

They may very well just get rid of digital codexs in its current form and have the digital rules tied to the app...
In order to cut out the hacked Digital rule books..

It’s not like people won’t scan the print book, but I suspect it’s just delayed and will be available later.

The battlefield box doesn’t even come with the new terrain wtf that overpriced.
Also 50mm objectives when the new rule is 40mm?

 BlaxicanX wrote:

 Daedalus81 wrote:
So close yet so far...someone get a hold of CSI.

Based on my own specialized tools it appears that lizurhgluizh is 29 points.

1.6mb picture...

Further proof that GW drops these leaks intentionally. It's 2020 and my $100 smartphone has a good enough camera that even a hasty snap while walking by would produce an image with enough pixels for you to blow it up and read the text.

Ah well. We'll get the real leaks soon enough.

Oh sorry - didn't mean to mislead. That was from the previews of the book on the NZ pre-order page.

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
Ha, only correct that H.B.M.C should discover it given his scenery collection.

Look at it in all its new glory!!!

jullevi wrote:
It looks like Sector Imperialis objectives are on 50mm bases like I suspected. Oops!

You've got to be joking...

*looks at website*

Well feth me. How did they screw that up?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Well feth me. How did they screw that up?

Models before rules - no one planned on 9th using 40mm before these were being made. They're narrative objectives anyway. The coins are 40mm.

jullevi wrote:
New objectives look nice but the bases look 50mm instead of 40mm. I would be happy to be wrong.

You were 100% right about this. Holy crap.

 Daedalus81 wrote:
The coins are 40mm.

And aren't something you can purchase, so...

 Daedalus81 wrote:
So close yet so far...someone get a hold of CSI.

Based on my own specialized tools it appears that lizurhgluizh is 29 points.

I can see Forge World in the contents. Will this release before the new fw books? Somebody, enhance, enhance, ENHANCE!!!

And if that ugly arsed drop bunker thing is T8 or less with 14 or less wounds I'm going to name it Hellforged Fellblade Chow.