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Sabotage! wrote: Replacing finecast characters that hardly anyone was using as opposed to replacing the core unit of an army is silly. How many Fabius Biles does a player need? I bet a new Guard box would sell exponentially better than the new Fabius Bile kit.
The amount of work it takes to produce a 10 man troop kit is far larger than a single character model. Plus you have to think about capacity. Moulding machines are not just sitting around doing nothing, waiting for new Guard models. Planning is a complicated process that can take a whole department by itself.
Yes, a 10 man troop box is more work than a single character, but is less work than a half dozen single characters. And would sell better than most half dozen character combined. It’s known GWs moulding machines are running over capacity, but that doesn’t mean they can’t make a new kit and fit it into that schedule. Yeah just made a bunch for Ad Mech, a bunch of primaris and a bunch of new Necrons. To imply they don’t have capacity to make a new Guard kit is false, sure they would have to plan it in advance, but they do for every kit.
The Phazer wrote:
Sabotage! wrote: Replacing finecast characters that hardly anyone was using as opposed to replacing the core unit of an army is silly. How many Fabius Biles does a player need? I bet a new Guard box would sell exponentially better than the new Fabius Bile kit.
It's not silly, it's a relatively small investment and meets the strategic goal of shutting down finecast production entirely, which is a big cost saver. Bluntly, the Cadian box still sells very well and is now almost entirely profit, so there is very little business need to replace it imminently.
It's likely that it will need a recut at some point, so any redesign would be done then for economic reasons.
You know they could probably just stop producing Finecast and still have enough of those models laying around to sell until they modernize the non-special characters of every faction in the game. The vast majority of players don’t use special characters, and the ones that do tend to see use are new ones that have powerful rules or are inherently exploitable in some way. Where have you seen the numbers on the Cadian kit? My LGS, which is amongst the busiest in a large US metropolitan area and sells Warhammer like mad hardly sells any Guard at all. When they got the Special Release Catachan one of the store employees and I were discussing Guard and he mentioned they sold maybe a half dozen Guard kits in the last six months. He implied no one wants to buy them because A) The models are bad B) it’s one of the more expensive armies to play. It would take literally a single kit (that would sell great I am sure) updated to the same proportions of the command squads to fix one of those problems. People don’t want models with hands bigger than their heads in 2020.
2020/07/27 12:53:05
Subject: Re:40k 9th edition, : App released page 413
Marines vs eldar would at least be bit different to usual starters but maybe hard to sell to 12yo's it's heroic marines vs evil guys. Eldars don't LOOK all that evil.
Necrons vs. Eldar would have made an even more interesting starter, and kept the good looking army vs. evil looking army dynamic.
But we can't escape the self perpetuating over consuming marine cycle that GW has created. They tried to do the same with Stormcast at the start of AoS, with 4 major releases and a few splash releases in a time frame before many armies even got their first battletome. But they seem to have actually gotten some backlash on that side of the fence, and eased off. Now its been 2 years since the last Stormcast release. Imagine if we went 2 years without space marine or primaris releases, and just got stuff for other armies? Of course if it were up to me, each major faction would get roughly equal treatment each year, to help diversify the player base more.
Danny76 wrote: Also.
What characters are revealed in that video for other factions.
Sisters, Ad Mech, Orks, Dark Eldar.
All the stuff we have seen in the rumour mill.
Just alternate, coloured views.
Yeah, it links up with most of the rumor mill stuff we’ve seen recently.
It kind of baffles me that Guard are yet again getting nothing. The last time they got a non-BL character or special release model was what? Scions and Ogryns in 2013? Also they have possibly the worst plastic core infantry in the game in that they are horribly dated.
They can't just snap their fingers and make 100 kits across 29 factions appear in 1 year.
I keep saying this, but it bears it again. People. Need. To. CHILL. Models will come, when they come.
We already saw a huge non marine release of both Sisters and (Necrons incoming) this year and we now see Dark Eldar, and Ork models in the pipe. Guard will likely be up in the near future, depending on which is more important, orks, Tyranids, and Eldar are all probably more badly inneed of models than Guard, and that's coming from a guy who has a jar stuffed with cash in the closet for when/if Armageddon Steel Legion plastic models ever come out.
I mean their production schedule would be a lot more conducive towards modernizing the whole range if they would just quit releasing primaricrap... or cut those releases until everyone else is up to speed. I got a lot of my wish listing done as a CSM player for models but outside Dark Eldar (besides their hq’s... I feel for them) Xenos armies are sorely lacking in the models department. Space marine sculpts were good for a good long while.
The Primaris range is the new marine range, their flagship range. Of course they're going to work on getting it out. I get that there are a lot of people who don't like it, and the choice to do it can be argued, but it is the reality. Indomitus made my struggling local FGS a gak ton of money, enough that he's no longer having to consider shutting down. Almost everyone bought the box for the marines. Marines sell. Tyranids don't. That's why the wait on some of these other armies.
Also, Ad Mech just got a line update, the entire sisters range and Chaos marine range was redone, Orks got some new buggies and a new Ghaz, Xenos just got a massive release of Newcrons, GSC was just a year and a half ago, and there were new eldar models in November. Now we're getting new Marine stuff for a line that is still developing. I don't think all the angst is really justified.
Danny76 wrote: Also.
What characters are revealed in that video for other factions.
Sisters, Ad Mech, Orks, Dark Eldar.
All the stuff we have seen in the rumour mill.
Just alternate, coloured views.
Yeah, it links up with most of the rumor mill stuff we’ve seen recently.
It kind of baffles me that Guard are yet again getting nothing. The last time they got a non-BL character or special release model was what? Scions and Ogryns in 2013? Also they have possibly the worst plastic core infantry in the game in that they are horribly dated.
They can't just snap their fingers and make 100 kits across 29 factions appear in 1 year.
I keep saying this, but it bears it again. People. Need. To. CHILL. Models will come, when they come.
We already saw a huge non marine release of both Sisters and (Necrons incoming) this year and we now see Dark Eldar, and Ork models in the pipe. Guard will likely be up in the near future, depending on which is more important, orks, Tyranids, and Eldar are all probably more badly inneed of models than Guard, and that's coming from a guy who has a jar stuffed with cash in the closet for when/if Armageddon Steel Legion plastic models ever come out.
You’re right. All they need to do is cut two Space Marine kits from the release schedule and do two Guard kits. Guard would sell so much better if the core of a Guard Army.....the bloody Guardsmen looked half decent. The Gaunt, Boy, and even the Guardian kits hold up much better than the Cadians.....and are are leagues apart from the Catachans. You say one year, but I shouldn’t need to remind you that the plastic Cadians are 17 years old and the plastic Catachans are 21. They are the worst two plastic infantry kits in the 40k range. The plastic Cadians came out when I was in High School, I am 33 now. This situation is exacerbated by the fact GW squated all the Regiments with decent sculpts and you can only get them as recasts or 2nd hand. Before GW makes a dozen more special characters in plastic, how about fixing core infantry?
At the end of the day this isn’t a huge deal, as 40k is just a game, but it doesn’t mean that people can’t be upset that GW has been handling the production of 40k in a half decent way. Telling people to they need to chill because they are aren’t happy waiting over a decade for decent models for a core faction of the game is kind of absurd.
Getting mad about a decades old problem that existed from a time before the company turned it's entire structure around and started working with the community is equally absurd. I say chill because it is your only option. Either scream into the void about Marine kits or wait your turn. There are also many other miniature games that can be played too, 40K isn't the only game out there on the market.
All I did mention how baffling it was Guard weren’t getting anything after being neglected for so long. Is it upsetting? Yeah, it is to me. I like Guard, they are the army I played for over a decade. It’s not absurd to be upset about that. GW has had ample opportunity to update the core infantry since they started “working with the community.” I can complain about that and have sent GW a message asking them to update the Guard kits. Their priorities are bizarre. When non-Marines get kits they are often nonsense. Ork players had a huge wishlist of things they wanted and they got.....three different buggy kits? You know what would sell better than Updated Guard? A plastic Fabius Bile or Lilith H? Because I heard people chomping at the bit all the time for those. They don’t work with the community like they say they do.
And yes I am well aware there are games other than 40k, most of them more fun and better designed. I play many of them. But they don’t have the background and lore 40k does, which Is mostly why I play the game.
You're listing characters they're replacing due to finecast as a slight against guard, 18 year old plastics are better and more use than anything in finecast.
I saw a comment (might not have been yourself) about the DG range being bigger than it needs to be. Some of their units can't be purchased any more and guards range is far larger, DG might be newer but need more work.
I'd also say be careful what you wish for, a 10 model regiment box of near monopose for £30-35 might well kill off a horde faction.
Replacing finecast characters that hardly anyone was using as opposed to replacing the core unit of an army is silly. How many Fabius Biles does a player need? I bet a new Guard box would sell exponentially better than the new Fabius Bile kit.
Yes, I did mention that the DG range is bigger than it needed to be. Look at it, it is gigantic for what accounts to a Traitor Legion. Until 8th edition they were literally just a Traitor Legion, one that specialized in Plague Marines. To make Death Guard a thing all that needed to happen was 1-2 character, some new plague marines, a box of plague walkers, and a box of unique terminators. They have more unique units in their army then every other traitor legion combined. And yes the AM range is larger, as it should be, it is the largest Imperial Faction in the game, and is a truly unique faction, as opposed to a marine sub-faction. The faction I play now is Iron Warriors, and from a fluff and background perspective they have just as many unique units as the Death Guard, but they don’t have 40 listings on the online store (and don’t need them because that’s silly).
As far as the price? Yeah new Guard would be expensive, but at least you’d be getting quality models. 35 USD for 10 Cadians of markedly poor sculpt is embarrassing. Neophytes are 5 USD more and a beautiful kit with a ton of options.
Also to the comment that GW is making money hand over fist so they are clearly making good decisions etc. Sure. But they could make even more if they made better decisions.
Death guard and some other factions cannot expand properly beyond being "core range with a couple of bolt ons" so to speak without that notable support. What they did makes them a faction and not a subfaction.
Again plastic core troops that are old > any finecast.
I get the argument for better quality core troops, but I can tell you for certain I don't know anyone queueing up to pay £35 for a 60 point troops unit, never mind the idea they'll also need similarly priced command and heavy weapons teams.
Trickstick wrote: Quick question, don't feel it is worth making a whole thread over: is there still a limit to how many CP you can gain a turn?
Thinking about using Kurov's Aquila to offset detachment costs, but can't find if they moved the old FAQ-imposed limit into the rules somewhere.
Sorry you seem to have gotten lost in the shuffle of rants but yes there is a limit: one CP per Battle Round (yours and your opponent’s turn) not including the command bonus CP you get in your turn (either from being battleforged or from mission rules).
BRB p.245 if you want to look up the details for yourself.
"Three months? I'm going to go crazy …and I'm taking you with me!"
— Vala Mal Doran
Necrons vs. Eldar would have made an even more interesting starter, and kept the good looking army vs. evil looking army dynamic.
But we can't escape the self perpetuating over consuming marine cycle that GW has created. They tried to do the same with Stormcast at the start of AoS, with 4 major releases and a few splash releases in a time frame before many armies even got their first battletome. But they seem to have actually gotten some backlash on that side of the fence, and eased off. Now its been 2 years since the last Stormcast release. Imagine if we went 2 years without space marine or primaris releases, and just got stuff for other armies? Of course if it were up to me, each major faction would get roughly equal treatment each year, to help diversify the player base more.
Again, you can't really keep harping on AoS because "before many armies even got their first Battletome" ignores that we had free rules readily available for the warscrolls and GHB even had Allegiance abilities for many of those armies, putting them on an even footing with those that had Battletomes.
It also ignores that the Stormcast are an entirely new range, which made the 'backlash' all the more ridiculous.
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2020/07/27 13:10:58
Subject: Re:40k 9th edition, : App released page 413
Yep its their first. I exptected that Plasma overheats on unmod. 1s. But the new units dont have plasma anyway and mostly small arms fire, our infantry could use some anti tank.
The Skitarii HQ is great. Probably a Primus, although the character doesnt look that augmented, which is weird , we dont see his upper body though.
Ive seen some people not liking that admech ( or skitarii especially because cult only got 2 support priests since its release) gets new stuff. They barely had an army at release. Its legit the first HQ for Skitarii. And with enginewar it was their first option to not field static gunlines and give them the fly keyword. They still dont have many options nor variety with all HQs being support only. Mostly being just low to mid strength weapons with mostly low ap.
Can someone explain this to me?
Q: Can the Mechanicus Locum Stratagem be used to give
characters other than your warlord one of the Holy Order
Warlord Traits?
A: No. The Character is only considered your Warlord for the
purposes of the Warlord Trait itself, not for what Warlord Traits
it has access to.
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2020/07/27 13:30:10
Subject: Re:40k 9th edition, : App released page 413
Q: Can the Mechanicus Locum Stratagem be used to give
characters other than your warlord one of the Holy Order
Warlord Traits?
A: No. The Character is only considered your Warlord for the
purposes of the Warlord Trait itself, not for what Warlord Traits
it has access to.
Guesswork but, does the Holy Order warlords trait comes with a specific requirement, like, say, your warlord belonging to a specific subfaction? If so I guess what matters is still the subfaction of your warlord, not the subfaction of the model you use Mechanicus Locum on.
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
Also, I think this is the first time we've seen the Engine War FAQ?
Yes. These are the first FAQs for Saga of the Beast onward for Psychic Awakening.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2020/07/27 13:39:36
Subject: Re:40k 9th edition, : App released page 413
Marines vs eldar would at least be bit different to usual starters but maybe hard to sell to 12yo's it's heroic marines vs evil guys. Eldars don't LOOK all that evil.
Necrons vs. Eldar would have made an even more interesting starter, and kept the good looking army vs. evil looking army dynamic.
But we can't escape the self perpetuating over consuming marine cycle that GW has created. They tried to do the same with Stormcast at the start of AoS, with 4 major releases and a few splash releases in a time frame before many armies even got their first battletome. But they seem to have actually gotten some backlash on that side of the fence, and eased off. Now its been 2 years since the last Stormcast release. Imagine if we went 2 years without space marine or primaris releases, and just got stuff for other armies? Of course if it were up to me, each major faction would get roughly equal treatment each year, to help diversify the player base more.
Yes it would but as there won't be starter set without marines moot point. Best we could get is battle box but those are old sprues plus new character generally
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Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote: So GW decided that really, Ephrael Stern should NOT be allowed to interact with a Sisters of Battle army's special rules in any way? Why???
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All she was denied was what was denied to special characters anyway
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Danny76 wrote: Also.
What characters are revealed in that video for other factions.
Sisters, Ad Mech, Orks, Dark Eldar.
All the stuff we have seen in the rumour mill.
Just alternate, coloured views.
Yeah, it links up with most of the rumor mill stuff we’ve seen recently.
It kind of baffles me that Guard are yet again getting nothing. The last time they got a non-BL character or special release model was what? Scions and Ogryns in 2013? Also they have possibly the worst plastic core infantry in the game in that they are horribly dated.
They can't just snap their fingers and make 100 kits across 29 factions appear in 1 year.
I keep saying this, but it bears it again. People. Need. To. CHILL. Models will come, when they come.
We already saw a huge non marine release of both Sisters and (Necrons incoming) this year and we now see Dark Eldar, and Ork models in the pipe. Guard will likely be up in the near future, depending on which is more important, orks, Tyranids, and Eldar are all probably more badly inneed of models than Guard, and that's coming from a guy who has a jar stuffed with cash in the closet for when/if Armageddon Steel Legion plastic models ever come out.
I mean their production schedule would be a lot more conducive towards modernizing the whole range if they would just quit releasing primaricrap... or cut those releases until everyone else is up to speed. I got a lot of my wish listing done as a CSM player for models but outside Dark Eldar (besides their hq’s... I feel for them) Xenos armies are sorely lacking in the models department. Space marine sculpts were good for a good long while.
The Primaris range is the new marine range, their flagship range. Of course they're going to work on getting it out. I get that there are a lot of people who don't like it, and the choice to do it can be argued, but it is the reality. Indomitus made my struggling local FGS a gak ton of money, enough that he's no longer having to consider shutting down. Almost everyone bought the box for the marines. Marines sell. Tyranids don't. That's why the wait on some of these other armies.
Also, Ad Mech just got a line update, the entire sisters range and Chaos marine range was redone, Orks got some new buggies and a new Ghaz, Xenos just got a massive release of Newcrons, GSC was just a year and a half ago, and there were new eldar models in November. Now we're getting new Marine stuff for a line that is still developing. I don't think all the angst is really justified.
Danny76 wrote: Also.
What characters are revealed in that video for other factions.
Sisters, Ad Mech, Orks, Dark Eldar.
All the stuff we have seen in the rumour mill.
Just alternate, coloured views.
Yeah, it links up with most of the rumor mill stuff we’ve seen recently.
It kind of baffles me that Guard are yet again getting nothing. The last time they got a non-BL character or special release model was what? Scions and Ogryns in 2013? Also they have possibly the worst plastic core infantry in the game in that they are horribly dated.
They can't just snap their fingers and make 100 kits across 29 factions appear in 1 year.
I keep saying this, but it bears it again. People. Need. To. CHILL. Models will come, when they come.
We already saw a huge non marine release of both Sisters and (Necrons incoming) this year and we now see Dark Eldar, and Ork models in the pipe. Guard will likely be up in the near future, depending on which is more important, orks, Tyranids, and Eldar are all probably more badly inneed of models than Guard, and that's coming from a guy who has a jar stuffed with cash in the closet for when/if Armageddon Steel Legion plastic models ever come out.
You’re right. All they need to do is cut two Space Marine kits from the release schedule and do two Guard kits. Guard would sell so much better if the core of a Guard Army.....the bloody Guardsmen looked half decent. The Gaunt, Boy, and even the Guardian kits hold up much better than the Cadians.....and are are leagues apart from the Catachans. You say one year, but I shouldn’t need to remind you that the plastic Cadians are 17 years old and the plastic Catachans are 21. They are the worst two plastic infantry kits in the 40k range. The plastic Cadians came out when I was in High School, I am 33 now. This situation is exacerbated by the fact GW squated all the Regiments with decent sculpts and you can only get them as recasts or 2nd hand. Before GW makes a dozen more special characters in plastic, how about fixing core infantry?
At the end of the day this isn’t a huge deal, as 40k is just a game, but it doesn’t mean that people can’t be upset that GW has been handling the production of 40k in a half decent way. Telling people to they need to chill because they are aren’t happy waiting over a decade for decent models for a core faction of the game is kind of absurd.
Getting mad about a decades old problem that existed from a time before the company turned it's entire structure around and started working with the community is equally absurd. I say chill because it is your only option. Either scream into the void about Marine kits or wait your turn. There are also many other miniature games that can be played too, 40K isn't the only game out there on the market.
All I did mention how baffling it was Guard weren’t getting anything after being neglected for so long. Is it upsetting? Yeah, it is to me. I like Guard, they are the army I played for over a decade. It’s not absurd to be upset about that. GW has had ample opportunity to update the core infantry since they started “working with the community.” I can complain about that and have sent GW a message asking them to update the Guard kits. Their priorities are bizarre. When non-Marines get kits they are often nonsense. Ork players had a huge wishlist of things they wanted and they got.....three different buggy kits? You know what would sell better than Updated Guard? A plastic Fabius Bile or Lilith H? Because I heard people chomping at the bit all the time for those. They don’t work with the community like they say they do.
And yes I am well aware there are games other than 40k, most of them more fun and better designed. I play many of them. But they don’t have the background and lore 40k does, which Is mostly why I play the game.
You're listing characters they're replacing due to finecast as a slight against guard, 18 year old plastics are better and more use than anything in finecast.
I saw a comment (might not have been yourself) about the DG range being bigger than it needs to be. Some of their units can't be purchased any more and guards range is far larger, DG might be newer but need more work.
I'd also say be careful what you wish for, a 10 model regiment box of near monopose for £30-35 might well kill off a horde faction.
Replacing finecast characters that hardly anyone was using as opposed to replacing the core unit of an army is silly. How many Fabius Biles does a player need? I bet a new Guard box would sell exponentially better than the new Fabius Bile kit.
Yes, I did mention that the DG range is bigger than it needed to be. Look at it, it is gigantic for what accounts to a Traitor Legion. Until 8th edition they were literally just a Traitor Legion, one that specialized in Plague Marines. To make Death Guard a thing all that needed to happen was 1-2 character, some new plague marines, a box of plague walkers, and a box of unique terminators. They have more unique units in their army then every other traitor legion combined. And yes the AM range is larger, as it should be, it is the largest Imperial Faction in the game, and is a truly unique faction, as opposed to a marine sub-faction. The faction I play now is Iron Warriors, and from a fluff and background perspective they have just as many unique units as the Death Guard, but they don’t have 40 listings on the online store (and don’t need them because that’s silly).
As far as the price? Yeah new Guard would be expensive, but at least you’d be getting quality models. 35 USD for 10 Cadians of markedly poor sculpt is embarrassing. Neophytes are 5 USD more and a beautiful kit with a ton of options.
Also to the comment that GW is making money hand over fist so they are clearly making good decisions etc. Sure. But they could make even more if they made better decisions.
Death guard and some other factions cannot expand properly beyond being "core range with a couple of bolt ons" so to speak without that notable support. What they did makes them a faction and not a subfaction.
Again plastic core troops that are old > any finecast.
I get the argument for better quality core troops, but I can tell you for certain I don't know anyone queueing up to pay £35 for a 60 point troops unit, never mind the idea they'll also need similarly priced command and heavy weapons teams.
But Death Guard had no need to be more than a core range with a couple bolt-ons. People had played them for a couple decades without them being that way. It's just like there is no reason Dark Angels, Blood Angels, Space Wolves, etc. need their own book. They just need a few unique units in the Space Marine book with a few different rules from Ultramarine, Iron Hands, etc. GW is making that change in this edition at least.
I would agree on the Finecast comment if you were talking about a faction's core troops or HQs. Special Characters are a different story, as they are highly specific and rarely used. GW could probably stop Finecast production today and have enough of their Finecast special characters in stock for the next five years with how few they sell.
I imagine a new Guard kit would be 27.50 pounds, like the GSC Neophytes or Skitarii. Those would be more comparable than a CSM or Primaris box. I would happily pay 5 more pounds a kit than what is currently offered to have decent sculpts, and all of my special weapon options instead of 2 out of 5 of them. I'm sure a lot of people would. There is no need to update the command squads. The sculpting and proportions are much better and they just need to sculpt the new kit to be in line with them. So Heavy Weapons and an Infantry box to fully modernize a line? That doesn't seem like asking for much.
2020/07/27 13:52:36
Subject: Re:40k 9th edition, : App released page 413
Lol. Gw has real grind against orks. Basically have negated pa book by now.
How do you figure? Making it so Ghaz can advance and charge under the great waaagh is hardly negating him. Nor is letting Makari tag along when he joins a non-Goff detachment.
"Three months? I'm going to go crazy …and I'm taking you with me!"
— Vala Mal Doran
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote: So GW decided that really, Ephrael Stern should NOT be allowed to interact with a Sisters of Battle army's special rules in any way? Why???
.
All she was denied was what was denied to special characters anyway
Yeah but she is denied everything else too because she doesn't have an order .
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
2020/07/27 13:59:19
Subject: Re:40k 9th edition, : App released page 413
Lol. Gw has real grind against orks. Basically have negated pa book by now.
How do you figure? Making it so Ghaz can advance and charge under the great waaagh is hardly negating him. Nor is letting Makari tag along when he joins a non-Goff detachment.
Uu. So not so great character gets bit better. Meanwhile kff gets nerfed and price increase is incoming(the one in faq applies to 8th ed) and kustom jobs got killed. 85 pts to use them too much.
Just a quick thing I may have missed, but wasn't GW supposed to update power levels with the App? I heard this somewhere, but cannot verify, and as I have an iPhone, I cannot check for myself.
Pickled_egg wrote: In Saga of the beast we got two pages of kustom jobs.
We now have to pay an 85 point tax to bring those.
Glad I forked out £25 for essentially a ghaz dataslate that wasn't even correct and a page of psychic powers.
money well spent
What a mess of an FAQ. The kustom jobs were pretty much mandatory to make some of our units worth their cost and you paid CP for them
Its disgusting really, I'm already steaming about the point updates in CA.
Losing the Souped up shokka in GT play.
Are you aware of another faction that have to purchase a fortification from GW and then spend 85 points just to activate their Psychic awakening rules?
Can you imagine if Tyranids had to purchase a £30 fortification and then spend 100 points to take adaptive physiology?
I bought my PA just before lockdown, I haven't even played a game with kustom jobs yet in the flesh, only simulated games on TTS.
this whole edition is a mess and feels totally rushed and half cut right now which is odd given the assurances of testing and the polished hype.
Sabotage! wrote: Just a quick thing I may have missed, but wasn't GW supposed to update power levels with the App? I heard this somewhere, but cannot verify, and as I have an iPhone, I cannot check for myself.
Thanks!
All data sheets are behind pay walls right now. Only thing you can access is the free rules.
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Sabotage! wrote: Just a quick thing I may have missed, but wasn't GW supposed to update power levels with the App? I heard this somewhere, but cannot verify, and as I have an iPhone, I cannot check for myself.
they were supposed to update them for free on launch with a pdf download, not with the App
Harry, bring this ring to Narnia or the Sith will take the Enterprise
Sabotage! wrote: Just a quick thing I may have missed, but wasn't GW supposed to update power levels with the App? I heard this somewhere, but cannot verify, and as I have an iPhone, I cannot check for myself.
Thanks!
All data sheets are behind pay walls right now. Only thing you can access is the free rules.
I thought that was going to be the case. I wouldn't mind paying the 4.99 if everything is well-laid out and everything is in there, but from reviews I have seen it looks like the App is kind of a mess, and that the full rules aren't even included with the subscription (just the core rules), indicating a need to buy the core rulebook as well as have the App. That the announced army builder delay. I'll have to wait to see if it cleaned up before I decide whether to go the book or app route. It's really kind of a bummer it was so rushed out, because the AoS app seems pretty awesome.
2020/07/27 14:43:04
Subject: Re:40k 9th edition, : App released page 413
Hopefully puts to rest arqument was indominatus starter or not. Never was. Despite n+1 poster claiming it was
And it doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to deduce that its just come back into stock on the webstore.
Reason I know it was out of stock previously is i was going to pick one up for a huge 5 table apocalypse game, orks vs Imperium. Where one of the objectives on one table was a large Mek workshop that is building a stompa.
Could I get my hands on it? Nope. It came back in last week and now this FAQ.
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