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Similar to Admech and Genestealer cult where you had the initial release and then a few years later a sizeable follow up. Did Sisters sell well enough for this or do you think because the whole current range got redone we won’t see much beyond characters from them for a good long while? The basic squad is still down as one of their best selling units but I’ve not heard too much from my immediate gaming group in terms of interest.

Personally I think they could certainly add extra things to the army, mostly in the vehicle department and I think another troop choice would be good for variety. Plus bikes/cavalry, which seems to be a thing for the two previously mentioned factions.

Probably - all indications are that the Sisters have done extremely well, and they feature prominently in the 9th ed. release video and website.

Hard to say. The consensus seems to be that Sisters have done very well.

I think it's more likely that they were planned out to be the 3rd Wheel of this release to ensure continued interest in the line. This was likely all planned out and in production before the sisters range hit shelves, so GW likely did not have the sales numbers beforehand.

Without any insight into their current timelines, it's pretty hard to speculate. They may have held something back from the initial release or planned for engine-war style release at some point.

Yeah I mean personally I’ve spent a fair bit so it’ll be good if we continue to see them add to the army. ATM they’re a tad too bare bones.

 Totalwar1402 wrote:
Yeah I mean personally I’ve spent a fair bit so it’ll be good if we continue to see them add to the army. ATM they’re a tad too bare bones.

If by "barebones", you mean "not bathed in weird cornercase units that nobody will probably ever use and legacy crap bloating up the unit entries"? I guess you'd be right.

Personal opinion here, there's not a whole lot of room to expand Sisters without making them Marines Lite. I wouldn't be shocked to see a 'bodyguard' unit for a Canoness down the road, maybe another tank variant, and some new plastic Crusaders and Ecclesiarchy stuff.

I don't see them getting a second wave for quite a while. Perhaps some new character and individual models, but no massive second wave for a good while. Their first wave was already larger than most new AOS armies have had entirely.

I think the big marketing push we are seeing for Sisters of Battle is just because they've had such a big update all at once and GW is making 100% sure they are getting a lions share of attention to ensure strong sales. Don't forget they were a very under-represented army until the big plastic update. Chances are GW felt it a risk to update them in such a big way all at once without giving them lot sof post-release marketing support to really make sure people know about them and are buying them .

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Totalwar1402 wrote:
Yeah I mean personally I’ve spent a fair bit so it’ll be good if we continue to see them add to the army. ATM they’re a tad too bare bones.

If by "barebones", you mean "not bathed in weird cornercase units that nobody will probably ever use and legacy crap bloating up the unit entries"? I guess you'd be right.

Personal opinion here, there's not a whole lot of room to expand Sisters without making them Marines Lite. I wouldn't be shocked to see a 'bodyguard' unit for a Canoness down the road, maybe another tank variant, and some new plastic Crusaders and Ecclesiarchy stuff.

Celestians are a bodyguard units. I agree though. Sisters have every niche filled really. Not every army needs multiple redundant units that all do the same things but at varying degrees of efficiancy.

Besides, we still need plastic Death Cult Assassins ans Crusaders.

I would expect atleast a new version of the Repressor Rhino to return as a new Tank for the Sisters. FW isn't selling them anymore.

Outside of that, I wouldn't know, maybe a Flying vehicle.

Though GW could basically go very creative with new units.

I think SoB will be typical of the newer "small" armies from GW. Stuff like Custodes, Death Guard, Thousand Sons, Harlequins, etc. Get drip-fed the occasional unit, but generally will be a rather small model range. I wouldn't get your hopes up for some large second wave to double your model line-up. There is a slight chance, because of the fact they're ladies, though.

Thinking about it, I don't think Sisters of Battle needs a second wave outside of going over the few minis that remain in metal or resin. There is a quite a bit there for them to work on:

Missionary/Preacher/Ministorum Priest (for IG) all need models in plastic. Either a few different models with various load-outs (like the Commissar) or a more beefy Canoness-style kit would be great here.
Crusaders - Other than the one in Combat Arena
Death Cult Assassins - Other than the Death Cult Executioner in Rogue Trader

Sure. Of course the SoB will get some additions. Look for them in about 3-4 years, about 6 months prior to 10th edition.

Pretty happy with the range as is - a few more characters - one for each Order would be nice but otherwise would rather they look at other factions now.

So Sisters of Silence, Eldar Plastics, etc

I wouldn't put it past GW to do another wave of models. Its not like Primaris haven't gotten one each year. They can alternate every 6 months between SoB and Primaris so that don't have to release models for anyone else.

 alextroy wrote:
Thinking about it, I don't think Sisters of Battle needs a second wave outside of going over the few minis that remain in metal or resin. There is a quite a bit there for them to work on:

Missionary/Preacher/Ministorum Priest (for IG) all need models in plastic. Either a few different models with various load-outs (like the Commissar) or a more beefy Canoness-style kit would be great here.
Crusaders - Other than the one in Combat Arena
Death Cult Assassins - Other than the Death Cult Executioner in Rogue Trader

There's only one plastic Commissar. Only options there are Bolt Pistol or Plasma Pistol. The rest are just leftover resin kits.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 alextroy wrote:
Thinking about it, I don't think Sisters of Battle needs a second wave outside of going over the few minis that remain in metal or resin. There is a quite a bit there for them to work on:

Missionary/Preacher/Ministorum Priest (for IG) all need models in plastic. Either a few different models with various load-outs (like the Commissar) or a more beefy Canoness-style kit would be great here.
Crusaders - Other than the one in Combat Arena
Death Cult Assassins - Other than the Death Cult Executioner in Rogue Trader

There's only one plastic Commissar. Only options there are Bolt Pistol or Plasma Pistol. The rest are just leftover resin kits.

I know. I have one sitting on the cabinet next to me along with Severina Raine. The choice of Bolt Pistol or Plasma pistol is more choice than most plastic character kits have.

The best thing GW could do for sisters as a wave would be shoring up the Ecclesiarchy part. As it stands, the only detachment you can make with Ministorum units is a spearhead; they lack Troops, Fast Attack and their Elites become slotless if you use Ministorum HQ.

They only have one generic HQ choice (Missionary).
Technically, Taddeus the Purifier gives us a current named HQ. We have Jacobus and Kyrinov in Legends.

Attention to the Ministorum would also see the existing metals and finecast updated.

I also want a flier- as in an airship, not a hovering altar (though a drop church would be cool).

And a Lord of war- maybe something along the lines of the Raging Heroes War pulpit, but suitable for all ages; it could still include penitent bits, just not lewd ones. If the bits were optional, you get a Sister <Order> key word build, while attaching the penitent bits gives you Ministorum. Same way the PE/Mortifier Box works. Basically an Armiger with an exorcist launcher on its back.

 Elbows wrote:
I think SoB will be typical of the newer "small" armies from GW. Stuff like Custodes, Death Guard, Thousand Sons, Harlequins, etc. Get drip-fed the occasional unit, but generally will be a rather small model range. I wouldn't get your hopes up for some large second wave to double your model line-up. There is a slight chance, because of the fact they're ladies, though.

What about Admech and Genestealer Cult?

Eventually! Maybe. Not likely any time soon though. There are still some very cleae gaps in the army list(Only 2 FA options, no flyer, no light vehicles, bimes would be nice, something a bit heavier than the exorcist might be cool.)

In like a year and a half Sisters will see another set of stuff drop for them, until then I wouldn't get my hopes up.


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 Sim-Life wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Totalwar1402 wrote:
Yeah I mean personally I’ve spent a fair bit so it’ll be good if we continue to see them add to the army. ATM they’re a tad too bare bones.

If by "barebones", you mean "not bathed in weird cornercase units that nobody will probably ever use and legacy crap bloating up the unit entries"? I guess you'd be right.

Personal opinion here, there's not a whole lot of room to expand Sisters without making them Marines Lite. I wouldn't be shocked to see a 'bodyguard' unit for a Canoness down the road, maybe another tank variant, and some new plastic Crusaders and Ecclesiarchy stuff.[/quote
Celestians are a bodyguard units. I agree though. Sisters have every niche filled really. Not every army needs multiple redundant units that all do the same things but at varying degrees of efficiancy.

Besides, we still need plastic Death Cult Assassins ans Crusaders.

Speaking of redundant units that do the same things but at varying degrees of efficiency...

There no reason for DCA and Crusaders to exist in a world where 4++ repentia and Arcoflags do.

We are already getting a new Special Character model (and her Xenos sidekick)

Sisters lack a flyer, and their troop options could be expanded just by making ecclesiarchy unit not suck.

I doubt we'll see anything sister related before the end of 9th.

Seems unlikely they'd get a big wave 2 very soon.
I do imagine a couple units might trickle in over the next year or so.
A Seraphim/Zephyrim/Jumppack character/HQ be it a canoness or something else.
A flyer.
A lighter tank/vehicle

ERJAK wrote:
Eventually! Maybe. Not likely any time soon though. There are still some very cleae gaps in the army list(Only 2 FA options, no flyer, no light vehicles, bimes would be nice, something a bit heavier than the exorcist might be cool.)

In like a year and a half Sisters will see another set of stuff drop for them, until then I wouldn't get my hopes up.


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 Sim-Life wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Totalwar1402 wrote:
Yeah I mean personally I’ve spent a fair bit so it’ll be good if we continue to see them add to the army. ATM they’re a tad too bare bones.

If by "barebones", you mean "not bathed in weird cornercase units that nobody will probably ever use and legacy crap bloating up the unit entries"? I guess you'd be right.

Personal opinion here, there's not a whole lot of room to expand Sisters without making them Marines Lite. I wouldn't be shocked to see a 'bodyguard' unit for a Canoness down the road, maybe another tank variant, and some new plastic Crusaders and Ecclesiarchy stuff.[/quote
Celestians are a bodyguard units. I agree though. Sisters have every niche filled really. Not every army needs multiple redundant units that all do the same things but at varying degrees of efficiancy.

Besides, we still need plastic Death Cult Assassins ans Crusaders.

Speaking of redundant units that do the same things but at varying degrees of efficiency...

There no reason for DCA and Crusaders to exist in a world where 4++ repentia and Arcoflags do.

How much of a gap was there between the Admech being released and Engine War? Didn’t they get those transport tanks in between as well?

One thing I noted in the codex was they made mention of them literally landing cathedrals from orbit to deploy troops. So maybe they might do some nutty kind of cathedral drop pod?

I find the flyer a tough one to envisage. I feel like Admech it would need some sort of gimmic or theme rather than just being a Vietnam fighter bomber painted black.

Bikes would be amazing.

I do think they need another troop choice but I wouldn’t really be too keen on Fraetsris militia. They don’t really need canon fodder infantry. I’d rather see them add some sort of recon/witch hunter unit with those stake bolters or a close combat unit even if it was just basic Sisters with chainswords and some eviserators. I think you should have option to go full close combat built into the army.

They could expand on the organ gun artillery concept to something like a thud gun with phosphex.

Obviously there’s the Mortal Engines Cathedral tank of doom although we’ve seen a really big tank for quite some time now.

As mentioned above I am not too fussed over the Priest and Flaggelant units although they could obviously bulk them out as well. A new priest sculpt seems an easy option and it’s in AM as well.


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rbstr wrote:
Seems unlikely they'd get a big wave 2 very soon.
I do imagine a couple units might trickle in over the next year or so.
A Seraphim/Zephyrim/Jumppack character/HQ be it a canoness or something else.
A flyer.
A lighter tank/vehicle

Yeah I mean you do have Celestine and Demonifuge but a generic Seraphim leader makes sense.

What sort of light tank would they need?

ERJAK wrote:
Eventually! Maybe. Not likely any time soon though. There are still some very cleae gaps in the army list(Only 2 FA options, no flyer, no light vehicles, bimes would be nice, something a bit heavier than the exorcist might be cool.)

In like a year and a half Sisters will see another set of stuff drop for them, until then I wouldn't get my hopes up.


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 Sim-Life wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Totalwar1402 wrote:
Yeah I mean personally I’ve spent a fair bit so it’ll be good if we continue to see them add to the army. ATM they’re a tad too bare bones.

If by "barebones", you mean "not bathed in weird cornercase units that nobody will probably ever use and legacy crap bloating up the unit entries"? I guess you'd be right.

Personal opinion here, there's not a whole lot of room to expand Sisters without making them Marines Lite. I wouldn't be shocked to see a 'bodyguard' unit for a Canoness down the road, maybe another tank variant, and some new plastic Crusaders and Ecclesiarchy stuff.[/quote
Celestians are a bodyguard units. I agree though. Sisters have every niche filled really. Not every army needs multiple redundant units that all do the same things but at varying degrees of efficiancy.

Besides, we still need plastic Death Cult Assassins ans Crusaders.

Speaking of redundant units that do the same things but at varying degrees of efficiency...

There no reason for DCA and Crusaders to exist in a world where 4++ repentia and Arcoflags do.

There is a reason though- story and small scale, warband style skirmish gaming. Which is a part of new 40k. And once Crusade drops, it is even more important to facilitate Blanchitsu style elements into the game. DCA's occupy an interesting design space- the sanctioned outlaw operative. The are another way to connect the Imperium to its shady underworld which exists beyond battlefields. Crusaders occupy a different design space; they are Holy warriors, and in some editions of the game, they've been holy enough to use acts of faith themselves! Both of these are civilian organizations, and their motivations are very different than the Arcos and the Repentia.

I'd like to see a DCA Kill Team that updates them to a five member plastic squad with a couple options, and a Crusader Kill Team that does the same. These are then used as the update for 40k with a new unit entry for each.

You are quite right to say that MOST players will prefer Arcos and Repentia in competitive games; it's also fair to say that DCA's and Crusaders were designed to perform the same battlefield role as Arcos and Repentia, but that the latter do it better. Not fair at all to say that there is no reason for the models to exist: a model's usefulness is about more than its rules. There's a reason why there was a character made from each of the Battle Conclave units for Blackstone; it's because the models are iconic, and amazing, and they show off sides of Imperial life that more conventional units miss.

Would be nice to get a Sisters LT equivalent and maybe a Prioress/CM Equivalent.

I'd like to see a superheavy mobile shrine at some point in the future and a return of the Palatine, but I don't know that there's much more they can add. But then again, I'm guilty of thinking that before we got Zephyrim and Mortifiers...

I'm split on the flyer - on the one hand it'd be fun to have one. On the other, it feel like the final sign that everyone gets everything, no matter how much it does or doesn't make sense in the established lore.

Absolutely, but the time scale is unknown.

Zephyrim /Seraphim versions of the character models are the only thing that's truly missing.

Wish list for cool stuff that would be nice to have would be:
1. Superheavy tank - just slap a church on a bane blade chassis, season to taste with flamers.
2. Air support - give us back the Avenger, add a sisters upgrade sprue.
3. Named Characters for the other orders

 Crazyterran wrote:
Would be nice to get a Sisters LT equivalent and maybe a Prioress/CM Equivalent.

agreed sisters really need another HQ

With so much focus that was given to the Sisters in the new trailer, I'm really hoping to see a second wave of releases after the initial release of 9th edition.

*fingers crossed*

 SisterAngelina wrote:
With so much focus that was given to the Sisters in the new trailer, I'm really hoping to see a second wave of releases after the initial release of 9th edition.

*fingers crossed*

sisters do seem to be shoulder to shoulder with marines as the "poster faction" this could mean sisters getting Marine levels of support (... makes one giddy)