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Made in ca
Fresh-Faced New User






Hello all,

Freshly registered French dude in his 30's looking to return to Warhammer40K.
I do not know exactly where to post this, I did not see an 'help' section

I've been playing a Space Marines army for 3 years around 1998 (ouch :/) but accumulated 1500 points ish too fast and did not had motivation to paint all those minis, teenagehood starting to kick in did not help too...
2-3 weeks ago I checked what was going on in the 41st millennary out of curiosity and the announcement of a new edition decided me to go back to the hobby.

I've decided to play Chaos Space Marines and I have few questions to you guys for which I could not find satisfactory answers on the www
-I will create my own legion with its colors, but, can I pretend they are issued from Black Legion or another one so I can play Abaddon or other units (downloaded the codex and keywords stuff is misleading me)
-I read that basic Space Marines are not that good in current meta, but it is best to test paint basic troops imo... so should I drop USD60 in those even though I may not field them ?
-I' like to play a melee style focused army with some support but I read that 8th edition is favoring the shooting, any hints yet on how 9th will play ?
-What is command points farming ?

Gonna stop here i will head to paint section for advices I need -already got scheme color in mind- , if you have some youtube channels you like about painting...

Thanks if you took the time to read and thanks for your replies.
   
Made in us
Imperial Guard Landspeeder Pilot




On moon miranda.

Krylon wrote:
Hello all,

Freshly registered French dude in his 30's looking to return to Warhammer40K.
I do not know exactly where to post this, I did not see an 'help' section

I've been playing a Space Marines army for 3 years around 1998 (ouch :/) but accumulated 1500 points ish too fast and did not had motivation to paint all those minis, teenagehood starting to kick in did not help too...
2-3 weeks ago I checked what was going on in the 41st millennary out of curiosity and the announcement of a new edition decided me to go back to the hobby.

I've decided to play Chaos Space Marines and I have few questions to you guys for which I could not find satisfactory answers on the www
-I will create my own legion with its colors, but, can I pretend they are issued from Black Legion or another one so I can play Abaddon or other units (downloaded the codex and keywords stuff is misleading me)
Totally fine, there's no rules regarding what color you paint your minis.

-I read that basic Space Marines are not that good in current meta, but it is best to test paint basic troops imo... so should I drop USD60 in those even though I may not field them ?
That's going to be subjective, it will depend on your local play environment and what you're looking to get out of the game. There's also an edition change coming up soon, so who knows what that will entail. If you're looking to get into primarily playing competitive events, maybe don't pick up tons of them, but if you're mostly playing casual pickup games or friendly games with pals, I wouldn't worry about it.

-I' like to play a melee style focused army with some support but I read that 8th edition is favoring the shooting, any hints yet on how 9th will play ?
With respect to CSM's broadly, 8th definitely favors shooting, but we don't really have much in the way of details on 9th yet on that account.

-What is command points farming ?
Building an army using detachments and/or allies to maximize available CP and utilizing abilities that generate additional command points or refund them.

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The correct pronunciation is Imperial Guard and Stormtroopers, "Astra Militarum" and "Tempestus Scions" are something you'll find at Hogwarts.  
   
Made in gb
Frenzied Berserker Terminator




Southampton, UK

Welcome back!

I'd say don't buy models you don't want, even to learn on. You'll be more motivated painting models you like.

For painting videos, Games Workshop themselves do some decent stuff if you like their painting style. Have a look at https://citadelcolour.com/.

There are tons of YouTube painters out there. Angel Giraldez is very talented indeed. I've just discovered Squidmar and he's well worth watching too.
   
Made in ca
Fresh-Faced New User






thanks for your replies,
Would you advise me to wait for my local GW store to re-open so I can pick my colors more carefully?
that's what I'm planning to do but I really want to paint rn

Is the Psychic Awakening a must own alongside CSM codex ?
what does it do precisely ?


   
Made in gb
Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant





England

The GW website has colour swatches for all the paints, so you can tell what they look like.

Psychic Awakening basically adds various special rules for various factions. It’s useful, but not a must-have (yet!).


See that stuff above? Completely true. All of it, every single word. Stands to reason. 
   
Made in ca
Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion





in fact if he's going to be playing black legion he can proably ignore PA and get vigilus ablaze instead

Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two 
   
Made in fr
Regular Dakkanaut




-I will create my own legion with its colors, but, can I pretend they are issued from Black Legion or another one so I can play Abaddon or other units (downloaded the codex and keywords stuff is misleading me)


It's generally accepted that you can play any faction you want, regardless of the color scheme you choose, except if a tournament rules says otherwise.
To my understanding, only official GW tournaments are affected by such limitation. In a casual / local setting, especially in France, this will be a non-issue.

-I read that basic Space Marines are not that good in current meta, but it is best to test paint basic troops imo... so should I drop USD60 in those even though I may not field them ?

It's suspected that GW is phasing the old marine units/models by making the new primaris models more desirable, but ofc they won't say it not to alienate the countless players who invested alot of money in their old SM armies. They are gradually expanding the primaris range, and we reached a point where oldmarines are barely needed anymore. I believe the only thing primaris infantry does not have are lascannons.
To answer your question, old marines are generally less interesting to field than primaris and incidentally, primaris models look much cooler).

-I' like to play a melee style focused army with some support but I read that 8th edition is favoring the shooting, any hints yet on how 9th will play ?
8th favors shooting (that's an understatement, shooting is tactically superior to melee all the way atm). None of 9th rules have been clearly explained, they "say" that some tweaks were made to make melee more viable (ie not die before turn 2 before being able to hit anything), but from the look of it, melee armies won't suddenly overpower shooty armies overnight, they'll just get more of a fighting chance.

-What is command points farming ?
I think the best way to answer your question is that CP farming will be gone in 9th edition.

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