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Something I've wondered for a long while, because I've forgotten most of what I self learnt and read in White Dwarf articles back at the turn of the century is...
...how to do white like GW.
Specifically I'm talking about things like the white eagle and other white details on Sammael's jet bike -
My way of approaching that would be to layer up from the dark blue/grey (The Fang?). Although I know from experience, that for me, doing it that way tends to lead to a chalky thick finish, even if I do use "two thin coats"...
So, I'm wondering if that effect can be better and quicker to achieve using a wash over white, although GW don't do a wash in that colour, so I guess it's a case of Lahmiam medium + The Fang in some magic highly guarded ratio?
I'm aware of Apothecary White Contrast, I've not had a good experience with Skeleton Horde Contrast (splotchy, coffee stained finish on a Deathwing Terminator, despite thinning 50/50 with Contrast medium) so I'd rather not bother with Contrast paints for this sort of thing...
Any tips on this would be great appreciated.
Thank in advance
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Washes? no. a wash over white will still leave you a dirty result. the down and dirty with white is simply, that there is no quick and easy way to do it. its just lots of time, and lots of very thin layers. I've started using oils to really smooth out my whites, but thats only helpful if you're willing to work with oils.
Apothecary white contrast would probably help, but its basically a blue grey wash. you'd still need to put the effort in with layers.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
If I recall, it used to be celestria grey base, diluted guilliman blue wash, then highlighted with ulthuian grey then white scar white. Not sure what the current formula is.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
Ah, that White Purifier helmet video does seem kind of what I was looking for. Saw it earlier whilst looking on Warhammer TV but disregarded it as I thought it'd be exactly the same as their other examples of doing white.
Duncan "two thin coats" Rhodes thins The Fang using his Citadel Water™ and uses it almost as a pin wash. Leaving very little clean up needed.
Thanks guys.
EDIT: I wonder how that would work over a gloss coat, or even if enamel washes (or just plain old thinned down oils, pretty much the same thing) would work, if you'd get better capillary action/flow of the The Fang (or alternative) and thus even less need for clean up?
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He demonstrates a 'warm' white, using brown shades, but the technique still applies for neutral and cold whites, and he shows the paints you would use for either of those at the beginning of the video.
He demonstrates a 'warm' white, using brown shades, but the technique still applies for neutral and cold whites, and he shows the paints you would use for either of those at the beginning of the video.
I was gonna recommend this one myself. He's a former 'Evy Metal painter for GW, so if anyone would know how they do it, it's him.
Ah right. Darren Latham seems to do it very similar to how Duncan Rhodes does in the video Ghaz linked to.
Basically very thinned paint acting as a glaze/wash and using in a pin wash type fashion (sorry I'm an aircraft modeller and pin wash is a widely used term).
Thanks for that. Think I need to get my test bed Deathwing Terminators out and have a practice at some point.
Also need to nail airbrushing a white undercoat/base layer on - last time I tried I couldn't get the paint thinned right and then filled in details!
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AngryAngel80 wrote: I don't know, when I see awesome rules, I'm like " Baby, your rules looking so fine. Maybe I gotta add you to my first strike battalion eh ? "
MangoChutney wrote: Be quick checking out Darren's video though, as he's deleting his channel this month
Crap keep forgetting to download the entire library.. Is it the 15th of june?
Its like an entire weeknds work but by god Do i need that knowledge at my fingertips.
His last video said the channel was going to be closed on the 16th of May, so who knows? He may have been able to convince them to let him keep it up indefinitely. Let's hope so as it's a great resource and I don't want to have to make the hard decision of whether or not to risk trouble sharing it if they do take it down. Honestly, I think I learned more about painting watching just his video for the 30k subscriber speed paint than I have in all my actual experience painting. I did notice I used some of the same basic techniques, which was heartening as a novice painter.
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Barbachop wrote: Darren posted on instagram saying that everything will be taken down on the 18th of June, so you have until then to download his videos
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