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Hello there, newcomer here, well, not so new.

I have been trying to get into the hobby for about 5 months however due to my rampant perfectionism and overthinking I have struggled to choose an army to collect, and just to preface, I DO NOT care about how good an army is as I know rules change and that I should go with the models I think look coolest and have the coolest lore. I will think I have made the right choice for a while (like a day or two) when I consider an army and then think "Oh but they have x wrong with them so maybe this other army would be better", and this cycles and cycles until eventually I come back to armies I thought were wrong choices previously, only to move on again. I also may flip flop between two armies for about a week only to decide I don't want to collect either of them. This also extends to other games systems, so I don't have a defined "playstyle" to fall back on as much as I wish I did. Honestly I feel so stupid because when I showed an image of each faction to my brother when he was getting into the game he immediately picked tyranids, I simply don't understand how he managed to pick a favourite just from some images.

Thank you for any replies and happy hobbying.

Buy the models you like.

Based on what you've said, it's really hard to advise you. If you are likely to be playing against your brother's Tyranids mostly, why not pick something that will make an interesting matchup for you both.

I also have a flip-flopping problem when it comes to things like this but what helped for me was deciding what RPG archetype I generally enjoy playing. So I hope you enjoy playing RPG's and have a set preference, for me it helped me settle on on DG eventually. I collected Orks before for fluff/looks reasons but after playing with them for a year or so I found that winning games with Orks for me required a playstyle that, for me, went against what the faction was about.

So reconsidering how I played and what I liked (tanky, being unmoveable etc.) DG was to be my next force. I have enjoyed them ever since even if they are not the strongest. So find out how you want to play (like I said, for me RPG preference spilled over a lot to Tabletop playstyle preference) and collect an army based on that. Maybe watch some battle reports of armies you think you'd like and see if what you want out of an army syncs up with how they actually play.

 Castozor wrote:
I also have a flip-flopping problem when it comes to things like this but what helped for me was deciding what RPG archetype I generally enjoy playing. So I hope you enjoy playing RPG's and have a set preference, for me it helped me settle on on DG eventually. I collected Orks before for fluff/looks reasons but after playing with them for a year or so I found that winning games with Orks for me required a playstyle that, for me, went against what the faction was about.

So reconsidering how I played and what I liked (tanky, being unmoveable etc.) DG was to be my next force. I have enjoyed them ever since even if they are not the strongest. So find out how you want to play (like I said, for me RPG preference spilled over a lot to Tabletop playstyle preference) and collect an army based on that. Maybe watch some battle reports of armies you think you'd like and see if what you want out of an army syncs up with how they actually play.

I do like being tanky and immovable as well in some games I play, and laughing off damage taken. I have been attracted to the engineer class in team fortress two (make a turret to fortify a position and stay there upgrading it and reparing it) and more traditional tank classes that like stunning enemies and damage reduction. However, i'm not entirely convinced by death guard's pustules and "disgusting mutated" look, however I do like the concept of zombie marines. Are there any other armies that have an immovable tank playstyle? I'll try to consider these.

Might be a good idea to start off on a Kill Team level? Just buy one box of a faction you're interested in, paint and play with that unit and see how you feel about them. One box is much less of a waste than an entire army that you don't like.

 Birdoctor wrote:
I do like being tanky and immovable as well in some games I play, and laughing off damage taken. I have been attracted to the engineer class in team fortress two (make a turret to fortify a position and stay there upgrading it and reparing it) and more traditional tank classes that like stunning enemies and damage reduction. However, i'm not entirely convinced by death guard's pustules and "disgusting mutated" look, however I do like the concept of zombie marines. Are there any other armies that have an immovable tank playstyle? I'll try to consider these.

What you're describing is the theory behind Necrons but it isn't really the practice right now. Allegedly the next edition is going to double down on Necron durability but it remains to be seen if GW is successful in that.

I will be honest the whole diseased look and visible mutations turned me off too at first. But I have learned to live with it personally although it does help for me personally that I'm a gamer over a looks/fluff guy. Now I enjoy my army despite the look because the game play just lines up so well with what I want from an army.
But if you are one of the people for whom looks DO matter, try the above recommended Necrons or Iron Hands SM. Or use clean looking normal marines and play them as DG, the latter however depends on your opponents. In my group it would be no problem but I know others are more picky about these kind of things.

My advice is to buy a single box of models and play Kill Team. Build them, paint them, play them. Let them get some experience and grow.

Once you've spent some time with them, you'll either like them enough that you start wanting more, or you'll start thinking about another army.

And if you do, buy a single box of that army. Build. Paint. Repeat. By the way, it's a bonus if the factions you pick can ally, because you can combine them to play bigger games.

Over time, you'll end up either finding an army, or you'll have enough Kill Teams that you can supply any friends who are curious about the game. Who knows, maybe the reason you're having a hard time picking is because you're better suited to be a campaign ref who designs missions and storylines and plays the "NPC" army so that your friends can advance their crusades.

Some folks have a deep collection- every model in their faction's range, conversions on top and easily enough points to hit an apocalypse table.

Other people have a broad collection; maybe one army at 3k, or two armies at 2k, but they also have 500 points here and 500 points there in just about every faction.

Both styles are legitimate, and most of us are on a spectrum between the two poles. Some of us have just been playing long enough that our collections have become both broad and deep.

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Welcome aboard!

Here are indeed a bewildering number of army choices. The good news is that the only correct answer is Dark Angels.

My advice.

Sometimes you have to jump in the water and get wet to get started. If you stand on the edge of the pool trying to pick the perfect spot to jump in that offers the ideal balance of safety and yet enough challenge to make you learn to swim then you'll stay on the edge forever whilst everyone else jumps on in and gets on with it.


In a way you've got an anxiety issue with commitment to a choice; and perhaps a touch of fear that you've made a "wrong choice".





Now I think you already know that, but you've go stuck making that move and finding the motivation/encouragement/support in making that step.

So I'm going to offer a tip. Perhaps instead of worrying about the army and play style, pick a model you like. It does not matter what model or what army its for just pick a model. Get some plastic in your hands, some clippers, etc... and build a model. Don't think about building an army; don't think about tomorrow; focus on today and building that one model.


The hope being that you break the cycle of overthinking and instead get into the water and get your feet wet. It might well help you to realise that sometimes a greater part of wargaming is the build and paint and that the play is but one part of things and that there's a wealth of enjoyment outside of playing the game. This might help you make a choice because now you're not "wasting" time on a "wrong choice*" but instead simply engaging with the hobby for a time with a different force.

Heck the time spent building and painting is also great practice if you happen to find the perfect choice later.









And there is also no perfect choice. You as a person will change through the course of your hobby. You might visually love the idea of static tank gun-lines and thus opt for an army like Imperial Guard now. Only to find once you're playing a few 2K games that you actually don't like that; that you'd rather a swift and fleet force of tanks and mechs. IG wasn't a wrong chioce, it was the right choice at the time that led you to a new revelation and appreciation for the game that opens new doors.


If you're the kind of person that changes a lot then there's a few things you can do to help

1) Aim for smaller games where its easier to build up a working force quicker and where the commitment in money and time isn't as steep. Such as 1K games

2) Don't flip models. Instead keep previous armies in storage as if you change so often you'll likely flip back to previous forces.

3) Have some discipline with yourself. This ties into point 1 somewhat. Even if you aim for more practical game sizes, you still need to have some personal discipline in order to ensure that you do hit targets before allowing yourself to change. This can feel painful at times, but often as not it allows you to hit completion targets. That in itself is VERY important because when you set a goal and hit it you get the enjoyment of reaching that goal even after the pains of sticking to it. If, however, you allow yourself to chop and change too fast then you never hit that goal and never get that mental success and release. So whilst you're going with your latest interest, you're also never reaching the "happy" moment with those choices, which can turn to bitterness and dissapointment.

I know people are going to chew me out for this, but you can never go wrong with space marines as a first army.

They are probably one of the most straight forward armies to play with, you can build an army in such a way that they engage in all phases of the game, I think the new primaris models look really good, and if you don't have a lot of disposable income, you can get older units off ebay for pretty cheap. Also you can keep your model count down, so you don't need to pay for a bunch of cases etc. And the marine models tend to be less fragile for the most part (I use to have eldar and transporting units with the flying/hover bases is a nightmare in how easy they can break).

But ultimately you really should go with the faction that has the models and lore you love. That's why the only army I never sold that I owned is Thousand Sons/Tzeentch CSM because I love the lore and models.

A big question is, are you going to wnat to be a soup player or a pure player?

Consider asking a few friends (make em if you ain't got them) at the local store to let you watch their games, ask questions, ask them why they play that army or this one or if its fun to play against that one or if it just sucks.
Phase two, ask them for help picking out a tiny 10 man squad of kill team type guys from an army you think you might consider as one you want to play. DO NOT Paint them up after assembly -- remember to ask your new friends for advice on what weapons to load in, etc, and then get to playing a few test matches. IF they suck and you have second thoughts, you have some well assembled but totally paint free soldiers that just about anyone else could trade you a few old marines or a few gaurd or a few deathgaurd zombies or a few tau firewarriors for. They can paiont them up to match the team they are playing, nice for them, and you get some stuff nobody was usiong and try a second group. Etc.

But network.
Every store I ever saw has people in it with armies they no longer use or never completed, and they will often sell little chuncks off for a few bucks if you seem nice enough.

Go to GWs site.
Look carefully at each force. Make a list of all of the models you like the look of in each force. When you're done? Tally up the likes for each force.

Wichever force has the highest total? Buy in to that force, right then.
Go straight down your list adding 1 of everything to the cart until you've hit your budget limit Don't forget to add glue, clippers & a hobby knife to the order. Hit "Submit Order" .

There, now the $s spent & you're committed to your 1st army.

After this initial purchase THEN start looking into how to save $ on the rest of the list.

Nothing is perfect.

Buy a box of troops for an army you think is it.
If you are torn between two. Flip a coin.

Once you have builot and painted the box of troops you can either buy the next unit for that army or buy something else entirely you like.

Cant help you if you dont know what you want yourself brotha. You gotta decide that for yourself and own it.

Once you have models in your hands it different than looking at them on GW web page. They will not look like the box cover when you start out (or ever for a lot of people)

Good luck and welcome to the hobby.

PenitentJake wrote:
My advice is to buy a single box of models and play Kill Team. Build them, paint them, play them. Let them get some experience and grow.

Once you've spent some time with them, you'll either like them enough that you start wanting more, or you'll start thinking about another army.

And if you do, buy a single box of that army. Build. Paint. Repeat. By the way, it's a bonus if the factions you pick can ally, because you can combine them to play bigger games.

Over time, you'll end up either finding an army, or you'll have enough Kill Teams that you can supply any friends who are curious about the game. Who knows, maybe the reason you're having a hard time picking is because you're better suited to be a campaign ref who designs missions and storylines and plays the "NPC" army so that your friends can advance their crusades.

Some folks have a deep collection- every model in their faction's range, conversions on top and easily enough points to hit an apocalypse table.

Other people have a broad collection; maybe one army at 3k, or two armies at 2k, but they also have 500 points here and 500 points there in just about every faction.

Both styles are legitimate, and most of us are on a spectrum between the two poles. Some of us have just been playing long enough that our collections have become both broad and deep.

Here's my issue: Kill Team has the problem that most of the "cool stuff" that makes you actually want to play a faction is excluded from it. Most people don't really care about the basic infantry; it's themed, it's there, and it's important but it's also not really what defines your list or is the model that you love most of your faction.

I prefer to recommend that new players identify a unit, or selection of units, that you really like the model(s) for. Basilisk, Exorcist, Buggies, Carnifex, etc. Whatever is making you really want to play that faction that you're going to have fun building and painting. Then, think about formulating a 500 point list that will include that model; usually buying "2 troops and an HQ" to accompany it [note: many factions come with 10-man troop boxes but field 5-man squads; thus, one box of troops should generally meet your needs starting out]; 3 troops and 2 HQ's for a horde army. Often, this might be "a start collecting box and the unit of your choice".

Grow from there at your own pace; IME people are often willing to include you in casual games or themselves make a 500 point list to play you a couple of times, though you should steadily grow your army from there until you have a full force.

ccs 789301 10834767 wrote:Go to GWs site.
Look carefully at each force. Make a list of all of the models you like the look of in each force. When you're done? Tally up the likes for each force.

Wichever force has the highest total? Buy in to that force, right then.
Go straight down your list adding 1 of everything to the cart until you've hit your budget limit Don't forget to add glue, clippers & a hobby knife to the order. Hit "Submit Order" .

There, now the $s spent & you're committed to your 1st army.

After this initial purchase THEN start looking into how to save $ on the rest of the list.

Who in their right mind buys glue, clippers or dice from GW. Not to mention that pick what you like can back fire in a spectacular maner.

If you wainted 6 months, then wait another two, till 9th is out and the 9th FAQ for the core book is out. Otherwise you maybe buying in to something that doesn't work at all soon, or worse become legends or similar.

Karol wrote:


Who in their right mind buys glue, clippers or dice from GW. Not to mention that pick what you like can back fire in a spectacular maner.

If you wainted 6 months, then wait another two, till 9th is out and the 9th FAQ for the core book is out. Otherwise you maybe buying in to something that doesn't work at all soon, or worse become legends or similar.

I would say it rarely does. With careful planning and attention to your list and unit interactions, you can make a functional list around almost anything in your faction. Don't be afraid to ask for help, more experienced players can often guide you towards what you want to achieve. That said, at 500-1000 points, most lists boil down to being your big pretty model or two, a heroic leader, and some lackey infantry along for the ride as a supporting cast, so like interactions and everything aren't super important and almost anything is functional.
Also, if you don't like your faction, there's no point in playing, so definitely play what you like.

That said, definitely wait to buy books until after 9e drops.

Buy two armies that you like.

Ultimately, it’s down to what you find fun.

Karol wrote:


If you wainted 6 months, then wait another two, till 9th is out and the 9th FAQ for the core book is out. Otherwise you maybe buying in to something that doesn't work at all soon, or worse become legends or similar.

The OP is already doing that and wants to BREAK that cycle for themselves. Otherwise they'll be waiting another 6 months then another and another and before you know it they've been around the hobby for ages and never bought, built, painted, played or engaged with the hobby at all. The game is always in flux; there's always a new codex, and new expansion a new rules edition around the corner. That will remain true until the day that GW ends a game or closes its doors as a company.

Here is how i did it :

- do i like the look of the army ?
- are most miniatures i wanna buy less than 2-3 editions old and thus less likely to be replace dor legended ?
- is the army at the bottom tier of GW's interest (ie xenos except Eldar, or chaos) ?

Then i was able to make an informed choice.

 Birdoctor wrote:

 Castozor wrote:
I also have a flip-flopping problem when it comes to things like this but what helped for me was deciding what RPG archetype I generally enjoy playing. So I hope you enjoy playing RPG's and have a set preference, for me it helped me settle on on DG eventually. I collected Orks before for fluff/looks reasons but after playing with them for a year or so I found that winning games with Orks for me required a playstyle that, for me, went against what the faction was about.

So reconsidering how I played and what I liked (tanky, being unmoveable etc.) DG was to be my next force. I have enjoyed them ever since even if they are not the strongest. So find out how you want to play (like I said, for me RPG preference spilled over a lot to Tabletop playstyle preference) and collect an army based on that. Maybe watch some battle reports of armies you think you'd like and see if what you want out of an army syncs up with how they actually play.

I do like being tanky and immovable as well in some games I play, and laughing off damage taken. I have been attracted to the engineer class in team fortress two (make a turret to fortify a position and stay there upgrading it and reparing it) and more traditional tank classes that like stunning enemies and damage reduction. However, i'm not entirely convinced by death guard's pustules and "disgusting mutated" look, however I do like the concept of zombie marines. Are there any other armies that have an immovable tank playstyle? I'll try to consider these.

See, the thing is you can build many armies towards a durability skew playstyle. Traditionally, as you said Nurgle is there, and Necrons are most likely the second or first ones that'll get brought up as well. They're kind of cyber-zombies with an egyptian slash terminator/the matrix robot aesthetic that is very cool IMO. they've also got some very classic war of the worlds scifi looking weapons like heat rays and death beams and what have you. And, they're in the starter of the new edition, so bonus to building your army up there.

There are several more armies worth looking into that fall into the category of "tough"

Thousand Sons/Tzeentch in general: if you're looking for a very technical army to play, with a lot of different options when you actually hit the tabletop, I gotta recommend the Thousand Sons. Not only are they as tough as normal space marines plus some with their special rules, they also get psychic powers that make the units you want to protect even stronger. Tzeentch daemons are also a durability+Magic faction. Thousand Sons/tzeentch are also EXTREMELY pretty, IMO, with bright vibrant colors and less of the greebly spiky stuff that chaos has usually.

Drukhari Haemonculus Covens: Drukhari are typically a lightning fast faction, but the covens sub-group is kind of a tough frankenstein vibe. If you like horrible monsters that will not die, these guys have got that in spades. Also good if you forsee in the future wanting to get into some of the other Eldar factions as allies.

Sisters of Battle: cheap troops in power armor who can ignore AP, sisters can be crazy crazy tough when they want to be. The models are brand new and very nice as well which is a bonus.

Imperial Guard: Definitely getting more into the "Quantity is durability right?" but they also have very tough tanks. Guard can make for a fun tactical experience through their Orders mechanic, which gives you specific special actions that your little squads can perform. Very good for getting cheap models off of ebay or other sites, too, since their sculpts are older.

One consideration that might also help to give you a good advice:
When it comes to collecting/modelling/painting do you prefer tanks/vehicles, infantry or monsters/demons?

If you are really into tanks, IG for example can build whole 2000 Point armies with nothing but Leman Russ including "Objective secured" on all those, which are rather sturdy for their pricetag.
If you prefer tough infantry, there are better alternatives that where already mentioned.


At least that consideration helped me a lot as I knew I like to collect and paint loads of diverse infantry (more diverse than various flavors of power armor), so I found my home with the Imperial Guard and am quite happy with that decision.

 Birdoctor wrote:

 Castozor wrote:
I also have a flip-flopping problem when it comes to things like this but what helped for me was deciding what RPG archetype I generally enjoy playing. So I hope you enjoy playing RPG's and have a set preference, for me it helped me settle on on DG eventually. I collected Orks before for fluff/looks reasons but after playing with them for a year or so I found that winning games with Orks for me required a playstyle that, for me, went against what the faction was about.

So reconsidering how I played and what I liked (tanky, being unmoveable etc.) DG was to be my next force. I have enjoyed them ever since even if they are not the strongest. So find out how you want to play (like I said, for me RPG preference spilled over a lot to Tabletop playstyle preference) and collect an army based on that. Maybe watch some battle reports of armies you think you'd like and see if what you want out of an army syncs up with how they actually play.

I do like being tanky and immovable as well in some games I play, and laughing off damage taken. I have been attracted to the engineer class in team fortress two (make a turret to fortify a position and stay there upgrading it and reparing it) and more traditional tank classes that like stunning enemies and damage reduction. However, i'm not entirely convinced by death guard's pustules and "disgusting mutated" look, however I do like the concept of zombie marines. Are there any other armies that have an immovable tank playstyle? I'll try to consider these.

Howabout valorous heart sister of battle? They can be surprisingly resilient. I have taken 1600 pts(2k army minus crisis suits in reserve) or so tau army firepower T1 in my face(didn't bother to hide because frankly I had sooooooooo many sisters I was flat out going to have exposed units anyway....so I went for optimal aura/attack deployment and forgot about trying to deny tau shooting) with everything in range and having range.

Lost 4 girls. In your face tau!

Top of that models look sweet and you can expand with allies easily if that's your fancy due to being imperium. Can play various playstyles from gunlines to melee in your face. And it's fun to spoil opponent's plans with miracle dices. Oh you are trying to kill my canoness with your nasty flat damage 6 hit? I auto pass invulnerable save! Or I got one melta past your save. Your character just auto died. Face of your opponent is priceless

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:
Here's my issue: Kill Team has the problem that most of the "cool stuff" that makes you actually want to play a faction is excluded from it. Most people don't really care about the basic infantry; it's themed, it's there, and it's important but it's also not really what defines your list or is the model that you love most of your faction.

I prefer to recommend that new players identify a unit, or selection of units, that you really like the model(s) for. Basilisk, Exorcist, Buggies, Carnifex, etc. Whatever is making you really want to play that faction that you're going to have fun building and painting. Then, think about formulating a 500 point list that will include that model; usually buying "2 troops and an HQ" to accompany it [note: many factions come with 10-man troop boxes but field 5-man squads; thus, one box of troops should generally meet your needs starting out]; 3 troops and 2 HQ's for a horde army. Often, this might be "a start collecting box and the unit of your choice".

Grow from there at your own pace; IME people are often willing to include you in casual games or themselves make a 500 point list to play you a couple of times, though you should steadily grow your army from there until you have a full force.

I think you can do either kill team or just the one model you like.
The point is buy one box, paint it up and then see how you *feel*.

Because I can't be alone in over the years having a vague flirtation with a faction, buying say a Start Collecting box, and maybe another character and some interesting model... get half way through painting the first few models and then go "nah... I'm just not feeling it". And then the stuff just joins the ever expanding pile of grey plastic.

 Birdoctor wrote:
Hello there, newcomer here, well, not so new.

I have been trying to get into the hobby for about 5 months however due to my rampant perfectionism and overthinking I have struggled to choose an army to collect, and just to preface, I DO NOT care about how good an army is as I know rules change and that I should go with the models I think look coolest and have the coolest lore. I will think I have made the right choice for a while (like a day or two) when I consider an army and then think "Oh but they have x wrong with them so maybe this other army would be better", and this cycles and cycles until eventually I come back to armies I thought were wrong choices previously, only to move on again. I also may flip flop between two armies for about a week only to decide I don't want to collect either of them. This also extends to other games systems, so I don't have a defined "playstyle" to fall back on as much as I wish I did. Honestly I feel so stupid because when I showed an image of each faction to my brother when he was getting into the game he immediately picked tyranids, I simply don't understand how he managed to pick a favourite just from some images.

Thank you for any replies and happy hobbying.

I had the exact same problem, and the reason I believe you suffer as I have is because you are trying to force what you truly desire on to armies/toys that don't match your expectations.

I would love an Imperial Guard force equivalent of modern infantry, modern infantry fighting vehicles, etc. But it wouldn't matter how I tried to paint them, it wouldn't matter how many FW kits I slapped on my Cadian's, they just didn't scratch that itch. lasguns don't have varied attachments like an M4, Cadian's don't have optics etc on their helmets. The old FW drop troops came close, but not enough.

I was forcing what I wanted on to something that didn't match that on either narrative, aesthetic or gameplay. Guard got sold, I moved on to Tau, it had the tech I wanted, drones, fire power, it matched the modern camo schemes, I only had to compromise on the mechs.

But... they were filthy xenos. I just cannot relate to that, so now I was conflicting with my own core interests. Tau gone.

Marines next.. the vehicles are very modern, multiple weapons systems, new rifles with rail systems, just had to pick a chapter, but the passion wasn't there. I play so many 40k video games and long exposure to Marines has tired me. Marines gone.

Then finally I ask myself, besides my modern warfare interests, looking at 40k what do I actually love about 40k? It was the gothic aesthetic.

So i ask myself do I want to quit and collect modern warfare in 28mm or 15mm etc? Or would the gothic stuff and 40k make me happy if I focused on it enough? Weighing it up 40k had value because i did enjoy the lore, I did enjoy the fact I have friends involved in the hobby too.

So i decide to focus on gothic, inquisition, assassins, crusaders, all the crazy gothic stuff, sisters etc, and now I'm not thinking of modern warfare anymore my head is in 40k, I see much more clearly what I like and dislike.

And how ridiculous it was for me to realise that years ago when I got the collected visisons book full of horus heresy artwork that I remembered how badly I wanted a Custodian Guard army, and all this time GW had Custodes sitting there for a few years now and I didn't even give it a chance.

I asked myself why, and the truth was I was just so caught up in my other passions I just disregarded it.

Now I'm a Custodian Guard collector, and I'm finally happy, I love their lore, aesthetics everything. In fact this process has cleared my mind to the point I wouldn't mind an imperial guard army later, because I see imperial guard for what it is and I actually like it now instead of trying to force it into something else.

So my advice is just be honest with yourself about what you really want. Even if that results in a poor army, or not enough models to even field an army, or hordes, or whatever. Even if it means play AOS or something completely different. This hobby is to make you happy, and if you're too conflicted and unhappy don't try to force it.

That's my advice.

 Birdoctor wrote:
Hello there, newcomer here, well, not so new.

I have been trying to get into the hobby for about 5 months however due to my rampant perfectionism and overthinking I have struggled to choose an army to collect, and just to preface, I DO NOT care about how good an army is as I know rules change and that I should go with the models I think look coolest and have the coolest lore. I will think I have made the right choice for a while (like a day or two) when I consider an army and then think "Oh but they have x wrong with them so maybe this other army would be better", and this cycles and cycles until eventually I come back to armies I thought were wrong choices previously, only to move on again. I also may flip flop between two armies for about a week only to decide I don't want to collect either of them. This also extends to other games systems, so I don't have a defined "playstyle" to fall back on as much as I wish I did. Honestly I feel so stupid because when I showed an image of each faction to my brother when he was getting into the game he immediately picked tyranids, I simply don't understand how he managed to pick a favourite just from some images.

Thank you for any replies and happy hobbying.

Have you made the plunge ?

 Birdoctor wrote:
Hello there, newcomer here, well, not so new.

I have been trying to get into the hobby for about 5 months however due to my rampant perfectionism and overthinking I have struggled to choose an army to collect, and just to preface, I DO NOT care about how good an army is as I know rules change and that I should go with the models I think look coolest and have the coolest lore. I will think I have made the right choice for a while (like a day or two) when I consider an army and then think "Oh but they have x wrong with them so maybe this other army would be better", and this cycles and cycles until eventually I come back to armies I thought were wrong choices previously, only to move on again. I also may flip flop between two armies for about a week only to decide I don't want to collect either of them. This also extends to other games systems, so I don't have a defined "playstyle" to fall back on as much as I wish I did. Honestly I feel so stupid because when I showed an image of each faction to my brother when he was getting into the game he immediately picked tyranids, I simply don't understand how he managed to pick a favourite just from some images.

Thank you for any replies and happy hobbying.

What sort of things have you been finding as "wrong" with factions?

Check out the story about Ordo Xenos Inquisitor Kryptman and his gambit. Essentially, he fed a Tyranid Hive Fleet to an Ork Waagh! which caused both factions to hyper specialize on fighting one another to the point where his fleet's Exterminatus had no issue wiping both swarms out.

That is... not how the Kryptman gambit turned out.

It was an utter failure, producing some of the most battle-tested ork Waaaghs and a glutted and expanded hive fleet.
At best it could be said it produced a delay.