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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/09 09:35:56
Subject: Best product for applying Decals?
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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There are a few companies that sell products designed to make decals look better when they are applied to models. Before I buy, I have some questions that hopefully people on Dakka can answer.
• Does anyone have experience with these?
• Which product is better based on actual performance?
• Which products have problems on some types of plastics?
Micro Sol + Micro Set
Revel Decal Soft
Testors Model\Master Decal Solutions
Tamiya Decal Adhesive
Vallejo Decal Softener
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/09 09:39:30
Subject: Best product for applying Decals?
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Thane of Dol Guldur
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I use micro sol/set. Never had any issues.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/09 10:06:13
Subject: Best product for applying Decals?
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Been Around the Block
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I've never had any issues with the microsol/set.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/09 10:22:24
Subject: Best product for applying Decals?
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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Another Microsol/set user here, no problems.
They were recommend when I was looking, and I havn’t tried the other options. I suspect there might be a lot of people like that. They are the big name that gets tossed around when asking, so it might be a self-fulfilling prophecy. Everyone asks what to use, but everyone uses the same stuff, ergo, new people pick up the habits of the old.
Hopefully someone who has used the others can chime in.
But if you are looking for something that works well, Microsol/set get the job done.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/09 11:41:30
Subject: Best product for applying Decals?
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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I saw someone on FB claim that using Micro Sol/Set damaged their model. I couldn't really tell but it looked like one of those Japanese robot kits that kids love.
There's also a claim that this stuff can cause problems on clear parts such as cockpit canopies.
Has anyone run into anything like this?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/09 11:48:51
Subject: Best product for applying Decals?
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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Breotan wrote:I saw someone on FB claim that using Micro Sol/Set damaged their model. I couldn't really tell but it looked like one of those Japanese robot kits that kids love.
There's also a claim that this stuff can cause problems on clear parts such as cockpit canopies.
Has anyone run into anything like this?
No and no?
I don’t think I’ve stuck decals on anything but GW plastic, so the first “No” would not apply to gundams. And honestly if you follow most instructions, you should put down a sealcoat layer anyway, so it’s not even interacting with the paint, much less the underlying model.
The second “No” is with a caveat, as I don’t think I’ve even attempted to put a decal on a clear surface. But I’ve never heard of anyone having that issue.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/09 13:38:31
Subject: Best product for applying Decals?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I have both the micro sol/set and the revell decal soft. Micro sol and set is king. The revell stuff I have only found to be good for soaking the decal off the sheet, which water does nearly as well for free.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/09 14:20:00
Subject: Best product for applying Decals?
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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I couldn't find microsol/set locally when I needed some urgently, so ended up trying Humbrol Decalfix. Works great for me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/09 14:58:26
Subject: Best product for applying Decals?
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Strangely Beautiful Daemonette of Slaanesh
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Micro sol/set,
and as mentioned above,
always put a layer of gloss coat,
then the decal with micro stuff
then another gloss layer,
then a flat varnish
seems a lot, but really helps hide the edges of the decals
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/10 13:42:00
Subject: Best product for applying Decals?
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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I've used both micro set/sol (which is my go to) and the Model Master ones. It really depends on which ones I can find in my paint drawer first (meaning it doesn't really matter to me, they both work the same).
I also have a set of setting and softening solutions from Micromark which came with their decal starter set, but they seem to be the Model Master stuff re-branded. I do notice that stuff crinkles the decals more, which eventually dries flat, but it does make me think it might be a tad stronger, which makes sense as home printed decals (of which I do a lot), tend to be thicker than commercial decals.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/10 19:39:52
Subject: Best product for applying Decals?
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
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Micro sol/set. Went from loathing transfers to some of my favorite hobby tasks because of it making the process so much easier.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/10 23:46:52
Subject: Best product for applying Decals?
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Dakka Veteran
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Microsol/set. Never had a problem that was caused directly by it.
Closest was applying some custom decals I made, but that I blame on too few layers of Gloss seal and my working the decals a bit too hard.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/12 03:22:02
Subject: Best product for applying Decals?
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Colonel
This Is Where the Fish Lives
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Your best bet is to go with MicroSet and MicroSol as they will handle a vast majority of decals commonly available. More stubborn decals need something a little hotter, but that's an issue on its own.
Neither of those are anywhere near strong enough to damage plastic but MicroSol can sometimes cause issues with paint from what I've heard in some modeling Facebook groups I'm in, but I've never come across it personally.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/12 10:56:08
Subject: Best product for applying Decals?
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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I use Microsol/set right over unvarnished GW paints, and it still works fine.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/12 14:00:42
Subject: Best product for applying Decals?
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Fixture of Dakka
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ScootyPuffJunior wrote:Your best bet is to go with MicroSet and MicroSol as they will handle a vast majority of decals commonly available. More stubborn decals need something a little hotter, but that's an issue on its own.
Neither of those are anywhere near strong enough to damage plastic but MicroSol can sometimes cause issues with paint from what I've heard in some modeling Facebook groups I'm in, but I've never come across it personally.
I've had to use a couple applications of the Micro-Sol to get some transfers to really set around one areas on some models (things like zimmerete coating or rivets and stuff). I let it dry in-between applications and use a q-tip soaked in the solution to press the decal down. End result always looks like the decal is painted on, but it can take patience.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/15 12:02:17
Subject: Best product for applying Decals?
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
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I dont use those listed products.
I use a solvented clear gloss from tamiya in the area I need the decal to help stop silvering, apply the decal as best you can even if there are creases, then apply another coat of gloss but being careful or it will shrink and melt into a mess.
The solvents in the gloss soften the decal and flatten out creases and imperfections.
And finally cover the decal and over painted gloss in an anti shine coating and the result is a decal that looks painted on also.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/07/15 14:18:36
Subject: Re:Best product for applying Decals?
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Infiltrating Oniwaban
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I've always used Walthers Solvaset. I have the microset/sol as well, but always used this, probably because of the built in brush applicator. I would spray a gloss coat (typically Future acrylic floor polish) apply the decal, use the solvaset and then seal with more gloss.
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