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 Mr Morden wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Another fantastic typo. The Multi-Melta fires D6 shots, apparently.

Did fething nobody read these things before they went to print?

Probably not. Likely they just wanted them made and shipped.

Stupid question, which one is the multi melta?
The only thing I see that looks like it is number 18. But the stat profile looks like a heavy flamer. Is it possible given the buffs to meltas they are taking it away from devastators?

Yes the Multimelta is 18, that being an obvious typo was mentioned in several prior comments.

It's also missing the Krak profile for the Missile Launcher.

mournwhelk wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Another fantastic typo. The Multi-Melta fires D6 shots, apparently.

Did fething nobody read these things before they went to print?

Probably not. Likely they just wanted them made and shipped.

Stupid question, which one is the multi melta?
The only thing I see that looks like it is number 18. But the stat profile looks like a heavy flamer. Is it possible given the buffs to meltas they are taking it away from devastators?

And give what back? Not heavy flamer as kit doesn't come with. Nor are they leaving weapon to sprue without using.

Check previous pages. That"s the typo that been talked

tneva82 wrote:
Here's btw the devastator sheet in question.

This isn’t that bad:
1. Bolter - correct
2. Combi-Flamer - correct
3. Combi-Grav - correct?
4. Combi-Melta - correct
5. Combi-Plama - correct
6. Grav Pistol - correct?
7. Plasma Pistol - correct
8. Strombolter - correct
9. Bolt Pistol - correct
10. Powerfist - correct
11. Lightning Claw - correct
12. Chainsword - correct
13. Power Axe - correct
14. Power sword - correct
15. Thunderhammer - correct?
16. Heavy Bolter - correct
17. Plasma Cannon - correct
18. Heavy Flamer - correct
19, Missile Launcher - correct for Frag, but missing Krak profile
20. Grav Cannon - correct?
21. Lascannon - correct

18 is definitely not the Heavy Flamer image. It's the right profile (and with BA being rolled into the main codex that might even be the intent) but there's clearly a mismatch there.

I can't imagine they gave the HF a 24" range.

The Thunder Hammer stats are wrong.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I can't imagine they gave the HF a 24" range.

...and there's that.

In regards to points? At the start all points are derived by 5 or 10 (except some exceptions or rarities), when codex's come out this will be delineated more, didn't this happen with indexes in 8th...) I mean I see a lot of YouTube clips saying this or that or posts but this is just the hold over... every point will change in actual codex's (well i feel, isn't GW just reseting?)

As in play what will now and make your armies but they are just place holders, until the real points etc values start to come out in October/November.

Grav Cannon miiiight be correct with a 6" range boost.

 alextroy wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Here's btw the devastator sheet in question.

This isn’t that bad:
1. Bolter - correct
2. Combi-Flamer - correct
3. Combi-Grav - correct?
4. Combi-Melta - correct
5. Combi-Plama - correct
6. Grav Pistol - correct?
7. Plasma Pistol - correct
8. Strombolter - correct
9. Bolt Pistol - correct
10. Powerfist - correct
11. Lightning Claw - correct
12. Chainsword - correct
13. Power Axe - correct
14. Power sword - correct
15. Thunderhammer - correct?
16. Heavy Bolter - correct
17. Plasma Cannon - correct
18. Heavy Flamer - correct
19, Missile Launcher - correct for Frag, but missing Krak profile
20. Grav Cannon - correct?
21. Lascannon - correct

Th is dam4 and there's no heavy flamer in devastators. It's multi melta with　incorrect　stats.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Devastator-Squad-DA-2017

Check what weapons are there. No heavy flamer. Devastator box never　has had

 alextroy wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Here's btw the devastator sheet in question.

This isn’t that bad:
1. Bolter - correct
2. Combi-Flamer - correct
3. Combi-Grav - correct?
4. Combi-Melta - correct
5. Combi-Plama - correct
6. Grav Pistol - correct?
7. Plasma Pistol - correct
8. Strombolter - correct
9. Bolt Pistol - correct
10. Powerfist - correct
11. Lightning Claw - correct
12. Chainsword - correct
13. Power Axe - correct
14. Power sword - correct
15. Thunderhammer - correct?
16. Heavy Bolter - correct
17. Plasma Cannon - correct
18. Heavy Flamer - correct
19, Missile Launcher - correct for Frag, but missing Krak profile
20. Grav Cannon - correct?
21. Lascannon - correct

Do you work at GW? That list could go right to print and not raise any eyebrows ;-)

 Mr Morden wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Another fantastic typo. The Multi-Melta fires D6 shots, apparently.

Did fething nobody read these things before they went to print?

Probably not. Likely they just wanted them made and shipped.

Yea these matter so little in the grand scheme of things. Definitely no one gave them a second glance.

 Daedalus81 wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Another fantastic typo. The Multi-Melta fires D6 shots, apparently.

Did fething nobody read these things before they went to print?

Probably not. Likely they just wanted them made and shipped.

Yea these matter so little in the grand scheme of things. Definitely no one gave them a second glance.

And yet it makes them look, bad, again.

Not Online!!! wrote:

 Daedalus81 wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Another fantastic typo. The Multi-Melta fires D6 shots, apparently.

Did fething nobody read these things before they went to print?

Probably not. Likely they just wanted them made and shipped.

Yea these matter so little in the grand scheme of things. Definitely no one gave them a second glance.

And yet it makes them look, bad, again.

I just dont understand how stuff like this happens so consistently and they do nothing to make it better in future releases. Dont they get tired of having to put out day 1 FAQs and their players finding broken combos in the first days they have to fix?

Not Online!!! wrote:

And yet it makes them look, bad, again.

*shrug* No one ever looked at these things until now. It certainly wasn't some leak ploy given we're still getting them after the announcement.

Stuff like this happens because GW just doesn't really care. It's easier to let the players do your proofreading for you, and, incredibly, you even get credit and praise for fixing your obvious errors because you've lowered expectations so much that that actually seems like progress.

It's a good gig if you can get it.

Maybe they are replacing the multi melta with the heavy flamer and when printing the stats for it accidentally left the multi melta range on the sheet. This would also make it so all weapons in the sprues have rules. I'll admit this is probably the least likely scenario.

 Billagio wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:

 Daedalus81 wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Another fantastic typo. The Multi-Melta fires D6 shots, apparently.

Did fething nobody read these things before they went to print?

Probably not. Likely they just wanted them made and shipped.

Yea these matter so little in the grand scheme of things. Definitely no one gave them a second glance.

And yet it makes them look, bad, again.

I just dont understand how stuff like this happens so consistently and they do nothing to make it better in future releases. Dont they get tired of having to put out day 1 FAQs and their players finding broken combos in the first days they have to fix?

Well seeing these aren"t usable datasheets in matched play hardly broken anyway


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mournwhelk wrote:
Maybe they are replacing the multi melta with the heavy flamer and when printing the stats for it accidentally left the multi melta range on the sheet. This would also make it so all weapons in the sprues have rules. I'll admit this is probably the least likely scenario.

Uuh that would mean datasheet would have weapon kit doesn't have and sprue would have weapon without rules. Kit has multimelta. Replacing kit would mean doing new expensive sprue. No way in hell. You have bigger chance of going to moon within 1 year than that.

Edit: Remember folks; read twice, type once.

The Newman wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

mournwhelk wrote:
Maybe they are replacing the multi melta with the heavy flamer and when printing the stats for it accidentally left the multi melta range on the sheet. This would also make it so all weapons in the sprues have rules. I'll admit this is probably the least likely scenario.

Uuh that would mean datasheet would have weapon kit doesn't have and sprue would have weapon without rules. Kit has multimelta. Replacing kit would mean doing new expensive sprue. No way in hell. You have bigger chance of going to moon within 1 year than that.

Ok, in the interests of fairness I have to point out that we're talking about the Tac kit here; it does not have the Multimelta on the sprue. It doesn't have any of those heavy weapons outside of the Missile Launcher, and it doesn't have the Thunder Hammer either.

We're talking about the Devastator kit.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/690/790703.page#10911942

I do wonder why the Tac kit only comes with the Power Fist, Power Sword, and Chain Sword when they expect to be in melee eventually, and the Devastator box comes with all the melee options when they want to stay out of melee.

so you buy both kits

Dev kit isn't as old, and additionally was made in the modern era of including all options in the box for the squad...

Well, I'm right about the Dev kit in what I am saying above, I think the tac kit is older, but I may be wrong.

nekooni wrote:

 alextroy wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Here's btw the devastator sheet in question.

This isn’t that bad:
1. Bolter - correct
2. Combi-Flamer - correct
3. Combi-Grav - correct?
4. Combi-Melta - correct
5. Combi-Plama - correct
6. Grav Pistol - correct?
7. Plasma Pistol - correct
8. Strombolter - correct
9. Bolt Pistol - correct
10. Powerfist - correct
11. Lightning Claw - correct
12. Chainsword - correct
13. Power Axe - correct
14. Power sword - correct
15. Thunderhammer - correct?
16. Heavy Bolter - correct
17. Plasma Cannon - correct
18. Heavy Flamer - correct
19, Missile Launcher - correct for Frag, but missing Krak profile
20. Grav Cannon - correct?
21. Lascannon - correct

Do you work at GW? That list could go right to print and not raise any eyebrows ;-)

Nope. I just misinterpreted that rather grainy image and missed that the range was wrong for a Heavy Flamer.

So that looks like 2 errors (Multi-melts and possibly Thunder Hammer) and a missing profile (Missile Launcher - Krak) if there is an update to Grav Cannon. Not perfect, but hardly horrible.

Racerguy180 wrote:
so you buy both kits

You can make a great army with just those two kits.

Who's to say that the 4 damage TH isn't wrong, and that this 3 damage TH isn't correct? Honestly I think it would be better (for the game) if 3 damage is correct.

endlesswaltz123 wrote:
Dev kit isn't as old, and additionally was made in the modern era of including all options in the box for the squad...

Well, I'm right about the Dev kit in what I am saying above, I think the tac kit is older, but I may be wrong.

yeah tac kit is older, Tac kit was introduced with the 6th edition marine codex. devestators with the 7th edition marine codex.

 Insectum7 wrote:

Racerguy180 wrote:
so you buy both kits

You can make a great army with just those two kits.

True. A box of GK termintors can make, all the characters save for Draigo. And the GK strike squad box makes all the other units and Crow.
Custodes seem to be in the same position, as they practicaly build an army around the jetbiker kit making HQs and units out of it.

Has the Stormraven weapon sheet been posted yet?



1. I guess that's the rockets?
2. Twin Heavy Bolters.
3. Twin Multi-Meltas.
4. Twin Missile Launchers (both profiles this time).
5. Hurricane Bolters.
6. Twin Lascannons.
7. Twin Assault Cannons.
8. Twin Plasma Cannons (both profiles this time).

I don't notice any glaring errors here.