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Hello,

Former Eldar player, I put my hand on some Primaris minis :

- A "Start collecting Vanguard"
- All the primaris from Dark Imperium (10 intercessors / 3 Inceptors bolter / 5 hellblasters and some characters)

I was thinking to get 1 or 2 Impulsors, and 1 or 2 Invictors, but besides that, what good options should I purchase next?

If you can GET IT the marine half of indomatus is worthwhile.

Eradicators (Haul ass an get at least two squads of these)
ATV's (They are hella b o are o k e)
Primaris Bikers (Each of them is a B****r warboss in disguise)

Ok, so stuff from Indomitus, thanks guys !

Depending on your regular opponents, you might find yourself a little light on AV firepower. Right now you have some mid strength shooting from the suppressors and the hellblasters.

Adding some big guns might help.

Yep, definitely some anti-tank needed in there. Right now you've got a lot of core troops so you'll be fine with hordes. For that reason, I'd actually advise against just getting the Indomitus stuff for now.
Bikes are really good, but again they fit a role you already have covered.

Eonfuzz mentioned Eradicators, which would be good - your own suggestion of an Impulsor would be ok, but a Repulsor would be better.
You're looking at approaching 2000 points with these extras, so you might also want to look at some extra character options - a Librarian is a good start, but also maybe look at special characters depending on what Chapter you're planning to run?

I found the Indomitus part on Ebay, but the eradicators are expensive !

A repulsor sounds good, I might consider it.

I already have a Librarian, the Phobos one, and I got like 3 lieutenants (1 in phobos armour) and a Captain.

I don't know yet what Chapter I want to play, maybe Ultramarines or Imperial Fists...

 -Ekko- wrote:
I found the Indomitus part on Ebay, but the eradicators are expensive !

Cheapest way relatively speaking would be getting whole half(whole box and sell necrons for example). Individually you pay more but you get plenty of other stuff you can use. Yes it is more anti horde when you have covered but you would have options for future and eradicators.

Or just get repulsor executioner or two.

Ok I'll do that if I find the Primaris half at a fair price.

Question : Are the SM datacards going to change with the new codex? Or should I buy them?

Don't buy them, it's a waste.

 -Ekko- wrote:
Ok I'll do that if I find the Primaris half at a fair price.

Question : Are the SM datacards going to change with the new codex? Or should I buy them?

Absolutely yes, they will change.

No you should not.

The ATV gets a lot of hype, but I’d hold off (not that it’s out yet). For the role, I think I’d prefer Attack Bikes or especially LandSpeeders depending on eventual points.

If you do Phobos. I’d think about doing Infiltrators as my Troops. They have the radio that allows a Primaris Cap/LT bubble to hit them anywhere on the board.

If you don’t do full Phobos, I’d get different HQ’s. The Invictus Cap/LT and Chappy are pretty decent. A Primaris non Phobos Libby would round you out.

Eliminators can get you 3x sniper rifles with trick bullets, or 3X basically slightly reduced range Lascannons.

Not everything has to be new Primaris. Old Scouts are still nice too, as are previously mentioned Landspeeders. Primaris are still missing aircraft, and lot of fast moving close combat. The Outrider bikes are a start, but you may need/want to fill in with Vanguard Vets.

The Rhino Hull variants have mostly been crossed over in Impulsor choices... Razorback, Whirlwind, Hunter/stalker, in theory the Vindicator but poorly. Ironically not the Rhino itself.

The new Gladius will likely overshadow the vindicator. A mix of lastalons and multimeltas can dish out a lot more damage than a demolisher cannon.

The anti-infantry version looks to have a lot more firepower than the dakka predator. (and if done incorrectly like the LR punisher, will be the superior all-rounder)

Ok, thanks for the datacards !

I got my hands on the Indomitus Primaris half, so I may just buy 1 Impulsor or 2 for the assault Intercessors/Bladeguard veteran.

@Breton : Thanks for all the advices, but I won't play any old marines stuff, I'll go Primaris all the way

 -Ekko- wrote:
Ok, thanks for the datacards !

I got my hands on the Indomitus Primaris half, so I may just buy 1 Impulsor or 2 for the assault Intercessors/Bladeguard veteran.

@Breton : Thanks for all the advices, but I won't play any old marines stuff, I'll go Primaris all the way

I'm filling in my Primaris as new stuff arrives as well, but as mentioned there are still holes. No aircraft, no jump assault.

Assuming you're playing Points instead of Power Level (power level comes with generally free upgrades which changes some of the calculations)

Your Phobos Librarian can likely know Obscuration or <CHAPTER> powers. If you get a "normal" Primaris Librarian they can know Librarius or <CHAPTER> powers. You may want to check Obscuration and Librarius as well as your chosen Chapter powers to decide which Libby (if any) you want. Realize the Obscuration "buff" powers pretty much require a unit in Phobos armor. The Phobos HQ's are very much tailored to Phobos troops. If you're not going full Phobos Other HQ's may be a better choice.

The "normal" Primaris Captain (Not the Bladeguard one) has some nice shooting - and CAN be upgraded into a close combat guy but unless you're dead set on Impulsor'ing him then The Gravis captain is more of a Close Combat (but remember Gravis can't go in Impulsors). The Gravis Captain may still be plentiful on Ebay as he was included in a starter set (Dark Imperium?) before Indomitus so he's frequently chopped out for bits sales.

There are no Phobos Chaplains, there are multiple sculpts of generic Primaris Chaplains but they all work out to being different models for the same entry.

Primaris Lieutenants (non-Phobos) have become something of a meme/running joke. You practically get one free with every paint pot purchase. If you go with a rifle LT, you may need to kitbash.

Elites:
There's a Primaris Ancient (Dark Imperium?) in addition to the Bladeguard Ancient in Indomitus The Bladeguard Ancient has synergy with the Bladeguards and +1 LD for a likely a little more price.

There are Primaris Apothecaries, there are not (generally) Primaris Techmarines.

Redemptor Dreads and Invictor Warsuits aren't bad.

Aggressors are also fairly outstanding if run well. (See UM Specific)

Troops

The Intercessor squad Troop Choice is basically the Tac Squad with three rifle choices (Which fluctuate between free and cheap and only two are really good) and an option for up to two Auxilliary Grenade Launchers(which fluxuates between free and cheap and only one per unit per turn can shoot unless you combat squad which turns them into two units)

The infiltrators are nice, and have the "scout" deployment which helps patch a hole in the Primaris line.


Fast Attack:

Inceptors were Dakka only and full kit starter set'ed. Jump Dakka with shell or plasma.

Hellblasters are plasma based Devs where everyone gets a gun, and that gun isn't necessarily Heavy to prevent movement.

If you're going UM as you mentioned:

In addition to the named characters (So far Papa Smurf Calgar and Tiggy have gone Primaris) you have a Chapter Specific Primaris Unit. Victrix Honor Guard (sold with Primaris Papa Smurf are similar to the Bladeguard only a unit of 2, no pistol, and some bodyguard rules.

The rest of the UM specific units/characters have not "crossed the Rubicon Primaris" as it's called in the fluff, but do still exist Telion, Tyrannic War Vets, Cassius, Power Axe Honor Guard and so on. In the fluff Sicarius is no longer captain of the 2nd, he disappeared for a while in the warp, got replaced with a Primaris captain so they could paint the starter sets in 2nd company heraldry and not explain why the Gravis Captain wasn't Sicarius. Sicarius is now a Captain without a company, and he's in charge of the Victrix Guard who are supposed to be protecting The Big Blue Boy Scout Guilliman himself, but strangely synergize better and are sold with Calgar. I am looking forward to Chronus joyriding in a Repulsor in the near future however.

Agressors get a fairly large boost from UM tactics/doctrines/strats. Tactical Doctrine + Scions of Guilliman