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Can some one help explain the interaction between these two stratagem in 9th. In both my turn and their turn, does it matter who plays which one first or does it come down to who turn it is. Or if someone drop link in to an article or video explaining this if would be massively appreciated

Vaer Greyloc wrote:
Can some one help explain the interaction between these two stratagem in 9th. In both my turn and their turn, does it matter who plays which one first or does it come down to who turn it is. Or if someone drop link in to an article or video explaining this if would be massively appreciated

It's simple enough. Did the dice physically roll a 1, 2, or 3, after re-rolls? If so, the wound roll fails. If you roll a 4, 5, or 6, after re-rolls, you add 1 to that roll to get the result, and then check to see if you wound or not. It doesn't matter if you have +1 to the roll or +TREE(3) to the roll, if you physically roll a 1, 2, or 3, it fails.

Remember, VOTLW gives a +1 modifier to the roll, not to any target needed. Even if you need a 3+, and roll a 3, which is modified to a 4, because "an unmodified wound roll of 1-3 always fails", it fails because it's an unmodified 3.

As per the BRB, page 200, "Rules that refer to the value of an ‘unmodified’ dice roll are referring to the dice result after any re-rolls, but before any modifiers are applied."

Agreed.