Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

Wassup fellow Geeks and nerds

I have no personal grudge with the humble rhino (non spiky or spiky variation). I really love the model as its iconic 40k for me.
So this is nothing personal to all the rhinos out there thinking im picking on them..

However it is for all intents and purposes its a slow ponderous box on tracks heaving great plumes of exhausts smoke as it lumbers around the battlefield..

So while watching a recent bat rep it kind of dawned on me that with shock assault the humble rhino has more or equal attacks than EVERYTHING in my entire CWE codex(including Named characters, & phoenix lords, exarchs wraith-lords) apart from the Avatar of Khaine and Asurmen who have 5 atatcks each. Everything else has 4 or less attacks. This is sort of insane now that I think about it.

Who else does the Rhino beat in in your army terms of its raw combat prowess (the number of attacks)?

Caveat: I know they are garbage quality attacks and Im not trying to say the rhino can woop ass in CC This is a tongue in cheek post

 Argive wrote:
So while watching a recent bat rep it kind of dawned on me that with shock assault the humble rhino has more or equal attacks than EVERYTHING in my entire CWE codex(including Named characters, & phoenix lords, exarchs wraith-lords) apart from the Avatar of Khaine and Asurmen who have 5 atatcks each.

Wait the marine rhino have more attack than the Sisters rhino? Sad :(.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Wait the marine rhino have more attack than the Sisters rhino? Sad :(.

Just 3 attacks unless something has changed in 9th.

So what? It hit son a 6+ lol

I mean, attacking in a Rhino is probably just hitting the accelerator and aggressively steering.

 Amishprn86 wrote:
So what? It hit son a 6+ lol

It has as many attacks as a wraithlord.. who has hands, and feet, and inteligence, and a sword, and fists..

 Argive wrote:

 Amishprn86 wrote:
So what? It hit son a 6+ lol

It has as many attacks as a wraithlord.. who has hands, and feet, and inteligence, and a sword, and fists..

and what percentage of those attacks hit on average?

 Argive wrote:

 Amishprn86 wrote:
So what? It hit son a 6+ lol

It has as many attacks as a wraithlord.. who has hands, and feet, and inteligence, and a sword, and fists..

SO? Its also a 10k ton tank that runs over things, if it ran over someone why would it stop? go back and forth 4x!

 Amishprn86 wrote:

 Argive wrote:

 Amishprn86 wrote:
So what? It hit son a 6+ lol

It has as many attacks as a wraithlord.. who has hands, and feet, and inteligence, and a sword, and fists..

SO? Its also a 10k ton tank that runs over things, if it ran over someone why would it stop? go back and forth 4x!

KAIOKEN x4!!!!!!!!


Automatically Appended Next Post:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Argive wrote:

 Amishprn86 wrote:
So what? It hit son a 6+ lol

It has as many attacks as a wraithlord.. who has hands, and feet, and inteligence, and a sword, and fists..

and what percentage of those attacks hit on average?

I think this thread is going well over your head. Did you read the OP?
Nobody is claiming rhino is wrecking face in CC. But because its painted blue or spikes it gets to have as many attacks as a millenia old Legendary superbieng. Cool huh ?

Somebody please make a gif of a Rhino with blurry anime fists whaling on something. Muda-muda-muda-muda!!
*ahem*

My guess is the 6+ WS represents the ability of most models to just... get out of the way. On that basis I reckon if the time ever comes, I'll let my opponent make the roll, and if a 6 turns up, play it as though they failed to dodge and tripped over their own two/four/six feet/claws/hooves/whatever.

 Super Ready wrote:
Somebody please make a gif of a Rhino with blurry anime fists whaling on something. Muda-muda-muda-muda!!
*ahem*

My guess is the 6+ WS represents the ability of most models to just... get out of the way. On that basis I reckon if the time ever comes, I'll let my opponent make the roll, and if a 6 turns up, play it as though they failed to dodge and tripped over their own two/four/six feet/claws/hooves/whatever.

I like to think it makes a hand break turn, and "Burns rubber" on the spot as a space marines comes out the hatch and pulls the oponents face in to the spinning tracks and says in an Austrian accent " You are on the wrong track"

 Argive wrote:


I think this thread is going well over your head. Did you read the OP?
Nobody is claiming rhino is wrecking face in CC. But because its painted blue or spikes it gets to have as many attacks as a millenia old Legendary superbieng. Cool huh ?

Tell you what I'll take away two attacks from the chaos rhino, if I can get subfaction tactics on all the units in my chaos space marine army. There's plenty to complain about in 40k but attacks on the rhino is pathetically low on that list.

 Argive wrote:

 Amishprn86 wrote:

 Argive wrote:

 Amishprn86 wrote:
So what? It hit son a 6+ lol

It has as many attacks as a wraithlord.. who has hands, and feet, and inteligence, and a sword, and fists..

SO? Its also a 10k ton tank that runs over things, if it ran over someone why would it stop? go back and forth 4x!

KAIOKEN x4!!!!!!!!


Automatically Appended Next Post:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Argive wrote:

 Amishprn86 wrote:
So what? It hit son a 6+ lol

It has as many attacks as a wraithlord.. who has hands, and feet, and inteligence, and a sword, and fists..

and what percentage of those attacks hit on average?

I think this thread is going well over your head. Did you read the OP?
Nobody is claiming rhino is wrecking face in CC. But because its painted blue or spikes it gets to have as many attacks as a millenia old Legendary superbieng. Cool huh ?

Quality is more important than him then quantity, thats why they hit on 2+ and re-roll hits andstead of having 10 attacks hitting on 5+

Now I guess we just have to wait for the Triple Threat stratagem in the upcoming Marines Codex.
1CP, requires 3 Rhinos working in tandem (because reasons), nominate 1 Rhino to fight twice in the Assault phase.

 evil_kiwi_60 wrote:

 Argive wrote:


I think this thread is going well over your head. Did you read the OP?
Nobody is claiming rhino is wrecking face in CC. But because its painted blue or spikes it gets to have as many attacks as a millenia old Legendary superbieng. Cool huh ?

Tell you what I'll take away two attacks from the chaos rhino, if I can get subfaction tactics on all the units in my chaos space marine army. There's plenty to complain about in 40k but attacks on the rhino is pathetically low on that list.

Ahh yes one of the corrupted monkhei....
Ill take shoiting twice in the trade pleaze

There sure are a lot of things wrong with 9th edition 40k. But as i have limited time today im picking on the rhino and how stupid it is that it gets 4 attacks. Pathetic or not.


Automatically Appended Next Post:

 Super Ready wrote:
Now I guess we just have to wait for the Triple Threat stratagem in the upcoming Marines Codex.
1CP, requires 3 Rhinos working in tandem (because reasons), nominate 1 Rhino to fight twice in the Assault phase.

"If you have 3 rhinos on the battlefield and forming a triangle around enemy unit you can pinball the enemy unit around dealing double damage and hitting atomaticaly till the end of the phase"

 Argive wrote:


Ahh yes one of the corrupted monkhei....
Ill take shoiting twice in the trade pleaze

There sure are a lot of things wrong with 9th edition 40k. But as i have limited time today im picking on the rhino and how stupid it is that it gets 4 attacks. Pathetic or not.

That will cost you the Doom psychic power at least. You'll just have to live with intercepting enemy reserves and getting to re-roll all failed wounds against a target. With that second ability you should really have pushed for veterans instead. That would get you back to scat bikes being tank hunters . That being said, if you really want to shoot twice, just pledge to slaanesh lol.

Hell current rhinos are wimps! Back in the days of tank shock I saw a single rhino wipe out a necron army in one genious move. 20 warriors failed their morale (ld 10 with a reroll i recall), causing the necrons loose 75+% of their models, making them to phase out in terror from that mad lad of a transport.

 Argive wrote:
Ill take shoiting twice in the trade pleaze

Any chance we can get that sentence in English, please?

Looking at the IG book, I need to flip the question on its head - with 4 attacks (allowing for Shock Assault), the Rhino does not have more attacks than the base profiles of:
- Baneblade-chassis Super-Heavy Tanks (which start with 9 attacks)

If we allow for on-datasheet special rules which only affect their own unit, Ogryn Bodyguards, Nork Deddog and Ogryn/Bullgryn Bone 'eads make it to 5 attacks on the turn they charge.

Expanding out to other in-Codex special rules, Ministorum Priests can boost a few Infantry characters (and Ogryns on the charge) to 5 attacks, and Colonel Straken can do something similar to nearby Catachan units (which excludes Ogryns - but does allow a Catachan Leman Russ to match a Rhino).

I'm mildly confused why the only benefit of giving a Sentinel a chainsaw is -1AP, rather than giving it an extra attack - I'm pretty sure taking them from A1 to A2 wouldn't make them OP.