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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/23 15:46:12
Subject: Does 9th edition demand that you rebase all of your old models to the same size as the current ones?
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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The amount people care about this topic is baffling, considering there are currently no rules for base sizes, and GW even makes Hero Basing Kit to put models on larger/taller bases.
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Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/23 16:30:49
Subject: Re:Does 9th edition demand that you rebase all of your old models to the same size as the current ones?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Are there any rules preventing new kits using 32mm from beeing placed on 25mm?
I have 2 GK metal psycannon marines on a 25mm, can i put 2 new plastic GK with psycannon on 25mm base to visualy mach the metal GK to complete the 5 man purgation squad,or do i need to ebay 2 metal models?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/23 18:48:18
Subject: Re:Does 9th edition demand that you rebase all of your old models to the same size as the current ones?
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
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By and large, you should really be using the bases the models come with... but I no longer believe that's actually in the rules any more, whereas it used to be.
Certainly in that specific case with the psycannon GKs, there's much more ground for using 25mm because the plastic GKs used to come with 25mm's anyway.
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"Hard pressed on my right. My centre is yielding. Impossible to manoeuvre. Situation excellent. I am attacking." - General Ferdinand Foch |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/24 04:31:57
Subject: Re:Does 9th edition demand that you rebase all of your old models to the same size as the current ones?
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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There are no rules for base sizes. You can use whatever size you want.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/24 08:45:50
Subject: Does 9th edition demand that you rebase all of your old models to the same size as the current ones?
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Leo_the_Rat wrote:I know it used to be recommended in older editions and I think that it was required in 8th but I haven't found anything on the subject in 9th. So, if I have some old space marines on 25mm bases what is the current rule on their bases? Can they remain on their original base or do I have to place them on a 32mm base?
No.
It's NEVER been actual rule. Just bunch of house rules.
As it is 9e makes it even less of an issue and indeed smaller base is more of hindrance. 25mm or 120mm, you fight in 2 ranks. Automatically Appended Next Post: Super Ready wrote:By and large, you should really be using the bases the models come with... but I no longer believe that's actually in the rules any more, whereas it used to be.
Certainly in that specific case with the psycannon GKs, there's much more ground for using 25mm because the plastic GKs used to come with 25mm's anyway.
ACTUAL official GW rule is: Whatever base model came with is fine.
Anything else was house rule by players.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/24 09:36:54
Subject: Does 9th edition demand that you rebase all of your old models to the same size as the current ones?
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
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tneva82 wrote:ACTUAL official GW rule is: Whatever base model came with is fine.
Anything else was house rule by players.
Is this actually still the case? I know it was in the rules previously, but I don't think it's there in 9th.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/24 14:40:19
Subject: Does 9th edition demand that you rebase all of your old models to the same size as the current ones?
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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Super Ready wrote:tneva82 wrote:ACTUAL official GW rule is: Whatever base model came with is fine.
Anything else was house rule by players.
Is this actually still the case? I know it was in the rules previously, but I don't think it's there in 9th.
It wasnt in the rules for 8th, and it isnt in the rules for 9th.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/24 14:53:01
Subject: Does 9th edition demand that you rebase all of your old models to the same size as the current ones?
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Ultramarine Terminator with Assault Cannon
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While there's no official W40K list for base sizes like AoS, there should be.
I've played a few games against SM's and C:SM's where the base size wasn't 'current' and it mattered a lot.
In all of the games my opponent was able to place models and even entire units in spaces that they could not have been placed if using 'current' basing standards (e.g. deep strike and on top of terrain). This gave my opponent a very real and significant advantage throughout the entire game.
In one game, my opponents advantage was so outrageous that after the game was over, my opponent apologized and he ended up rebasing his whole army as a result.
So it's important to use the current (correct) base size.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/24 19:37:10
Subject: Does 9th edition demand that you rebase all of your old models to the same size as the current ones?
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Fixture of Dakka
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I will use my 1997 jetbike bases on my 1997 jetbikes until the day I die.
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/24 19:54:34
Subject: Re:Does 9th edition demand that you rebase all of your old models to the same size as the current ones?
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Lieutenant General
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From the Warhammer Age of Sigmar - Base Sizes document:
In Warhammer Age of Sigmar, most distances are measured from one model’s base to another model’s base. In the vast majority of games, the actual size of the base is not terribly important, and you can use bases of whatever size or shape you prefer.
The only possible exception to this is matched play games. This is because matched play games are intended to be evenly balanced contests, and in these circumstances having the same model on a different sized base can become an issue. To address this, on the following pages you will find a set of suggested matched play base sizes for all of the models in the Warhammer Age of Sigmar range.
Don’t worry – you don’t have to rebase your model if it is not on the suggested base unless you want to (that’s why these are suggested base sizes rather than mandatory ones). If you prefer not to rebase your models, just assume that the model is mounted on a base of the appropriate size when setting the model up, moving it, or measuring any distances in a matched play game. For example, if you are a veteran player using an old unit that is mounted on 25mm square bases instead of the suggested 32mm round bases, you should set the unit up, make any moves, and measure all distances as if they were mounted on the larger 32mm round bases when you play matched play games. Although this may sound a bit complicated, in practice it is actually very easy to do. We’ve organised the base sizes first by Grand Alliance, and then alphabetically by faction. To find a model’s suggested base size, simply look up the model’s Grand Alliance and then its faction, and then read down the list until you find the model in question. The suggested base size appears to the right of the model’s name. As new models are added to the Warhammer Age of Sigmar range, we will add their suggested base sizes to the list.
So GW doesn't even demand that models be rebased for Age of Sigmar, where the change from square to round bases can be significant (most square bases were replaced with larger round bases - e.g., a 20mm square base was replaced with a 25mm round base). Base size requirements are up to the players and/or tournament organizers, not Games Workshop.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/25 07:09:44
Subject: Does 9th edition demand that you rebase all of your old models to the same size as the current ones?
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Inquisitorial Keeper of the Xenobanks
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Irbis wrote: Blackie wrote:Rebasing models is not required and updating 25mm models to 32mm is super easy though, just add some rings.
Or even simpler, glue your old base on top of new one. Also helps making smaller old models roughly the same size as new ones. Really, being polite to your opponent by keeping your army 'current' is such little-effort non-issue I sometimes wonder if it's 40K equivalent of face masks...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/25 07:26:00
Subject: Does 9th edition demand that you rebase all of your old models to the same size as the current ones?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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All my Nid Warriors are still on the square bases they came with when I bought them. Same with my Zoanthrope and Lictor.....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/25 08:10:33
Subject: Re:Does 9th edition demand that you rebase all of your old models to the same size as the current ones?
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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I think this topic is pretty much concluded, no?
GW has no offical rules.
However you play with your mates is fine.
Tournaments may vary form Tournament to Torny and player to player - Decide your attendance based on their rulepack.
Case closed?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/25 11:35:13
Subject: Re:Does 9th edition demand that you rebase all of your old models to the same size as the current ones?
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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AdmiralHalsey wrote:I think this topic is pretty much concluded, no?
GW has no offical rules.
However you play with your mates is fine.
Tournaments may vary form Tournament to Torny and player to player - Decide your attendance based on their rulepack.
Case closed?
Indeed. It’s been resolved from the very first posts.
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Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/25 11:37:37
Subject: Does 9th edition demand that you rebase all of your old models to the same size as the current ones?
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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It seems like there is no more base for a discussion
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7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. |
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