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2020/10/19 02:52:29
Subject: Space Marines Rhino Tank repair rule 9th edition?
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40kenthus
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Hello,
I have been looking over the new SM codex.
I got both the 8th edition and the 9th edition this year. 9 month apart. A bit soon for a new codex to me but onto this question.
Does the SM Rhino still have the self-repair rule in the 9th edition codex? I have attached a photo of the datasheet entry in both 8th and 9th. The 8th edition clearly list "Self-repair" as an ability of the Rhino tank.
In the 9th edition "self-repair" is not listed in the abilities but it is mentioned the the small write up just the left of the datasheet on this page. No rules just that quote "With robust self-repair systems, the Rhino is a rugged vehicle, etc." most everything else looks the same but also no smoke launchers in abilities.
So, they gave it self-repair and then took it away?
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2020/10/19 03:48:59
Subject: Space Marines Rhino Tank repair rule 9th edition?
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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That happens a lot, as rules come and go from edition to edition. They have a number of concepts/rules/abilities they like but can’t implement so they take it out and give it another go after another edition or two.
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My WHFB armies were Bretonians and Tomb Kings. |
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2020/10/19 06:48:05
Subject: Space Marines Rhino Tank repair rule 9th edition?
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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The probably axed it because it's an additional dice roll which is unlikely to ever affect a game.
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7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. |
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2020/10/19 09:53:41
Subject: Re:Space Marines Rhino Tank repair rule 9th edition?
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
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Yup, it's gone. I'm guessing you came into the game in 8th? As Breton mentioned, units gain and lose things all the time between editions.
FYI, it's generally frowned upon to post scans of datasheets here as it can be seen as piracy (though I realise it's obviously not the case for you here). If you need to post rules up for context, just type the text in instead.
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2020/10/19 09:56:49
Subject: Re:Space Marines Rhino Tank repair rule 9th edition?
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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I never used it, always forgot about it. At 1/6 the odds are pretty low anyway.
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2020/10/19 10:31:50
Subject: Space Marines Rhino Tank repair rule 9th edition?
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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I just realized that chaos rhinos are finally superior to imperial ones 
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7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. |
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2020/10/19 11:39:09
Subject: Space Marines Rhino Tank repair rule 9th edition?
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Waaagh! Ork Warboss
Italy
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Adepta Sororitas Rhinos are definitely the best ones: self repair, smoke launchers, 6++, deny the witch ability on a D6, Sacred Rite bonus and possible Act of Faith on an Hunter Killer Missile.
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2020/10/19 16:41:03
Subject: Re:Space Marines Rhino Tank repair rule 9th edition?
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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I just realized that chaos rhinos are finally superior to imperial ones
I mean ... for now ...
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Edit: I just googled ablutions and apparently it does not including dropping a duece. I should have looked it up early sorry for any confusion. - Baldsmug
Psiensis on the "good old days":
"Kids these days...
... I invented the 6th Ed meta back in 3rd ed.
Wait, what were we talking about again? Did I ever tell you about the time I gave you five bees for a quarter? That's what you'd say in those days, "give me five bees for a quarter", is what you'd say in those days. And you'd go down to the D&D shop, with an onion in your belt, 'cause that was the style of the time. So there I was in the D&D shop..." |
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2020/10/19 17:39:59
Subject: Re:Space Marines Rhino Tank repair rule 9th edition?
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Dakka Veteran
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Tycho wrote:I just realized that chaos rhinos are finally superior to imperial ones
I mean ... for now ...
9th Ed CSM codex Rhino Repair it Yo' Self - Their vehicles require constant maintenance on the fly because they never have the parts to fully repair them after all these years. Every turn roll a D6, if you don't roll a 6 the Rhino takes a wound.
You can make the Rhino a Daemonic engine to avoid this rule, but then it start eating anyone trying to ride it. ;-)
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2020/10/19 20:28:23
Subject: Re:Space Marines Rhino Tank repair rule 9th edition?
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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9th Ed CSM codex Rhino Repair it Yo' Self - Their vehicles require constant maintenance on the fly because they never have the parts to fully repair them after all these years. Every turn roll a D6, if you don't roll a 6 the Rhino takes a wound.
You can make the Rhino a Daemonic engine to avoid this rule, but then it start eating anyone trying to ride it. ;-)
Get out of my head!
I had the exact same thought but didn't post it for fear I would bring it into reality by speaking it!
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Edit: I just googled ablutions and apparently it does not including dropping a duece. I should have looked it up early sorry for any confusion. - Baldsmug
Psiensis on the "good old days":
"Kids these days...
... I invented the 6th Ed meta back in 3rd ed.
Wait, what were we talking about again? Did I ever tell you about the time I gave you five bees for a quarter? That's what you'd say in those days, "give me five bees for a quarter", is what you'd say in those days. And you'd go down to the D&D shop, with an onion in your belt, 'cause that was the style of the time. So there I was in the D&D shop..." |
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2020/10/19 21:52:32
Subject: Space Marines Rhino Tank repair rule 9th edition?
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Norn Queen
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Yeah they no longer can repair nor have smoke launchers.
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2020/10/19 21:53:43
Subject: Space Marines Rhino Tank repair rule 9th edition?
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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 BaconCatBug wrote:Yeah they no longer can repair nor have smoke launchers. Almost like they want to discourage using oldmarines while appearing to not squat them by giving them an extra wound.
People were using Rhinos in 8th? Could have fooled me.
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 Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
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2020/10/19 21:58:29
Subject: Space Marines Rhino Tank repair rule 9th edition?
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Norn Queen
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So I just had a quick re-read. Smokes got shunted to a Stratagem, and it seems all the oldmarine tanks have the SMOKESCREEN keyword so you can use the strat, but since it's a stratagem, only one tank can use it at a time. But you can smoke and shoot now.
-shrug- Not really a fan of moving "wargear" to stratagems.
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2020/10/19 22:49:09
Subject: Space Marines Rhino Tank repair rule 9th edition?
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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That ship sailed some time ago...
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Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
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2020/10/20 03:08:59
Subject: Space Marines Rhino Tank repair rule 9th edition?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Yeah. Wargear pieces have been stratagems since the 1st codex of 8th (r.i.p. Flakk missile)
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