Void__Dragon wrote:FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
With the exception of Bobby G, we really don't have much to go off of for primarch abilities, and even he's a singularly exempt sample. His table stats have zero bearing on fluff arguments. Because then every named character in the game would be T8 with 20 wounds and a 1++. When it comes to literal Primarch fluff, all we have is retold tales from extremely suspect sources. The ones who are currently alive (known) are either Daemon princes, or Cawl tinkered lore that is a total retcon.
Are you aware that there is an entire game line set when all the Primarchs were walking around where as of now I think all of them have stat lines?
And that all of them are more formidable than any Custode, even Constantin Valdor who also has a stat line, who is arguably the greatest Custode ever?
Ah yes, the old "I don't like the Primarch fluff so I'm going to pretend none of it is real" argument
lol. I could easily use the same reasoning against Custodes, who are canonically recorded as never having lost a battle regardless of how the battle actually went.
No, we have plenty of Primarch fluff at this point, both from the old Index Astartes articles, to the Horus Heresy series proper, to the
FW HH game line.
In all of them the fluff places the Primarchs as the mightiest superhumans the Emperor ever created, far more powerful than even the Custodes.
Provide a single source that claims Custodes are individually superior to Primarchs.
This did make me chuckle.
The initial post makes it sound like a fable and glazed over an entirely system that pivots around primarchs as playable characters.
Also (fluff wise) there is countless amounts on every single primarch.
Just a point on valdor though.
On the table he can actually hold his own in combat with the weaker ones.
A wounded primarch would be wise to keep its distance with him.
As a point to the main note of table vs fluff, just sign out of dakka at this point.
The reason fluff is ignored for the most part when making profiles for the game is for balance.
Vulkan could literally never be killed while in turn, wipe out an entire army on his own.
How do you go about making that balanced?
There’s a reason profiles are limited and cut away from the fluff and it’s a good thing.