dominuschao wrote:I don't have any experience with fabulous armies but I do have a few comments..
Soup would be stronger but I will comment from the perspective of staying pure.
DP I don't rate in this edition. Too pricey not enough value Considering the changes to 9th. Consider a cheaper chaos lord instead to escort and reroll the plasmas.
Sorcerer I would suggest delightful agonies to further protect the terminators. Warp time will be most useful on the
DP due to range. If taking Tsons then this changes a bit due to +6".
The
csm I would suggest going minimal. The axes benefit are minimal i.e. not worth it over a chainaxe and I'd suggest losing the icons. So that's all chainswords with paired chainswords on the champ and done. 17 attacks at s5 is very respectable for a cheap troop and saves you 41 pts. Argument for swapping a unit into one unit of 10 cultists for scoring and actions.
Contemptors I used to run butchers but now I'd recommend
dccw/ep blaster plus twin hvy bolter. Or dual hvy bolter. Only marginally worse against mech.
Possessed aren't optimal in this army. I wouldn't spam them except maaaybe in word bearers. I would suggest losing one unit personally.
Terminators look good although you could get by easily with 9 and only 1 chainfist.
Bikers I don't use but they seem ok with speed and anti tank so no real issues there.
With pts saved you could consider a dedicated firebase unit like las havocs. i.e. another target for cacophony.
That's it for now..
So i made some changes to my list based on what you said (i was not aware you coule give aspiring champs 2 swords), & even got to test the list today (i won). So thank you your suggestion. Here is the new list.
++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [99
PL, 10CP, 1,996pts] ++
+ Configuration +
Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total
PL / 1001-2000 Points)
Detachment
CP
Legion: Creations of Bile
+ Stratagems +
Gifts of Chaos (1 Relic) [-1CP]
+
HQ +
Daemon Prince with Wings [10
PL, -1CP, 200pts]: Delightful Agonies, Malefic talon, Prime Test Subject, Supreme Creation, Wings
. Slaanesh
Fabius Bile [5
PL, 95pts]: Surgeon Acolyte, Warlord
Sorcerer [6
PL, 115pts]: Bolt pistol, Force stave, Helm of All-Seeing, Jump pack, Mark of Slaanesh, Prescience, Warptime
+ Troops +
Chaos Space Marines [4
PL, 70pts]: Mark of Khorne
. Aspiring Champion: 2x Chainsword
. 4x Marine w/ chainsword: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Chainsword, 4x Frag & Krak grenades
Chaos Space Marines [4
PL, 70pts]: Mark of Khorne
. Aspiring Champion: 2x Chainsword
. 4x Marine w/ chainsword: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Chainsword, 4x Frag & Krak grenades
Chaos Space Marines [8
PL, 160pts]: Icon of Wrath, Mark of Khorne
. Aspiring Champion: Chainsword, Power fist
. 9x Marine w/ chainsword: 9x Bolt pistol, 9x Chainsword, 9x Frag & Krak grenades
Chaos Space Marines [4
PL, 70pts]: Mark of Khorne
. Aspiring Champion: 2x Chainsword
. 4x Marine w/ boltgun: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Boltgun, 4x Frag & Krak grenades
+ Elites +
Hellforged Contemptor Dreadnought [9
PL, 175pts]: 2x Ectoplasma blaster, Hellforged chainclaw, Hellforged deathclaw, Mark of Slaanesh
Hellforged Contemptor Dreadnought [9
PL, 175pts]: 2x Ectoplasma blaster, Hellforged chainclaw, Hellforged deathclaw, Mark of Slaanesh
Possessed [10
PL, 200pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. 10x Possessed: 10x Horrifying Mutations
Terminators [16
PL, 360pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. Terminator: Combi-plasma, Power fist
. Terminator: Combi-plasma, Power fist
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator Champion: Combi-bolter, Power fist
+ Fast Attack +
Bikers [5
PL, 114pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. Biker: Chainsword, Combi-bolter, Meltagun
. Biker: Chainsword, Combi-bolter, Meltagun
. Biker Champion: Combi-bolter, Combi-melta
Bikers [5
PL, 114pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. Biker: Chainsword, Combi-bolter, Meltagun
. Biker: Chainsword, Combi-bolter, Meltagun
. Biker Champion: Combi-bolter, Combi-melta
+ Dedicated Transport +
Chaos Rhino [4
PL, 78pts]: Combi-bolter, No Chaos Mark
++ Total: [99
PL, 10CP, 1,996pts]
I know you & the other person said the Prince isnt amazing, but so far every game i have run him in he has clapped many a cheek, & i put agonizes as his spell instead of warp time because he is so fast, & the board is so small that by turn 2 he is on the opponent's table edge. So i would rather up his survivability instead