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Hello!

I can't truly understand rules wording in the 9th edition about stratagems and detachments. Are stratagems part of detachment abilities? And can I use it for auxiliary detachment? I remember that in the 8th edition these detachments did not give access to stratagems, but in the 9th edition it is not clear.

For example: if I use patrol detachment DG and auxiliary support detachment with Typhus, can I use strategems on Typhus? They all have DG keyword e.t.c.

Thank you a lot for your answers!

DeZver wrote:
Hello!

I can't truly understand rules wording in the 9th edition about stratagems and detachments. Are stratagems part of detachment abilities? And can I use it for auxiliary detachment? I remember that in the 8th edition these detachments did not give access to stratagems, but in the 9th edition it is not clear.

For example: if I use patrol detachment DG and auxiliary support detachment with Typhus, can I use strategems on Typhus? They all have DG keyword e.t.c.

Thank you a lot for your answers!

How you unlock stratagems is detailed in the respective codex for your army. The majority of codexes will prohibit Auxiliary Support Detachments from unlocking stratagems.

However, you can USE stratagems on any unit that is legal to use the stratagem on, regardless of what detachment they are in. In your example, the Patrol is unlocking the stratagems, so you can use any legal stratagem you've unlocked via that Patrol on Typhus just fine.

Also, keep in mind that the majority of stratagems also don't care about the subfaction. A T'au example: If you have a Patrol of Vio'la Tau and an ASD of a Sa'cea unit, you still unlock the Sa'cea stratagems via the Vio'la patrol.

Also, also keep in mind that some stratagems like Agents of Vect have been errata'd to only work if you have a model with the correct subfaction on the battlefield. In this case, having a FLAYED SKULL Patrol and a ASD of KABAL OF THE BLACK HEART Warriors will still unlock Agents of Vect, but you can't use the stratagem unless you have the KABAL OF THE BLACK HEART unit on the battlefield.

I learned something new about aux detachments... no strategems usually... messes up my concept list

 BaconCatBug wrote:

DeZver wrote:
Hello!

I can't truly understand rules wording in the 9th edition about stratagems and detachments. Are stratagems part of detachment abilities? And can I use it for auxiliary detachment? I remember that in the 8th edition these detachments did not give access to stratagems, but in the 9th edition it is not clear.

For example: if I use patrol detachment DG and auxiliary support detachment with Typhus, can I use strategems on Typhus? They all have DG keyword e.t.c.

Thank you a lot for your answers!

How you unlock stratagems is detailed in the respective codex for your army. The majority of codexes will prohibit Auxiliary Support Detachments from unlocking stratagems.

However, you can USE stratagems on any unit that is legal to use the stratagem on, regardless of what detachment they are in. In your example, the Patrol is unlocking the stratagems, so you can use any legal stratagem you've unlocked via that Patrol on Typhus just fine.

Also, keep in mind that the majority of stratagems also don't care about the subfaction. A T'au example: If you have a Patrol of Vio'la Tau and an ASD of a Sa'cea unit, you still unlock the Sa'cea stratagems via the Vio'la patrol.

Also, also keep in mind that some stratagems like Agents of Vect have been errata'd to only work if you have a model with the correct subfaction on the battlefield. In this case, having a FLAYED SKULL Patrol and a ASD of KABAL OF THE BLACK HEART Warriors will still unlock Agents of Vect, but you can't use the stratagem unless you have the KABAL OF THE BLACK HEART unit on the battlefield.

Thank you a lot!

Something else worth noting for this - you'll see that most Stratagems specify they only affect the faction keywords that they come from anyway. So even if you managed to wrangle something wonky with the detachments, the stratagems would then have no effect.

For example - I could have a Space Wolves detachment and a Blood Angels detachment, unlocking both sets of stratagems, and they all come together under the Adeptus Astartes keyword to boot. But if I look at the wording in the various Space Wolves stratagems available...
"...if that unit is within 3" of a friendly Space Wolves Infantry unit or Space Wolves Cavalry unit..."
"... Select one Space Wolves Character model in your army..."
"...when an enemy Character is destroyed by an attack made by a Space Wolves model in your army..."
...it becomes clear that the Blood Angels will never get any bonuses from them.

 Super Ready wrote:
Something else worth noting for this - you'll see that most Stratagems specify they only affect the faction keywords that they come from anyway. So even if you managed to wrangle something wonky with the detachments, the stratagems would then have no effect.

For example - I could have a Space Wolves detachment and a Blood Angels detachment, unlocking both sets of stratagems, and they all come together under the Adeptus Astartes keyword to boot. But if I look at the wording in the various Space Wolves stratagems available...
"...if that unit is within 3" of a friendly Space Wolves Infantry unit or Space Wolves Cavalry unit..."
"... Select one Space Wolves Character model in your army..."
"...when an enemy Character is destroyed by an attack made by a Space Wolves model in your army..."
...it becomes clear that the Blood Angels will never get any bonuses from them.

The only army where this actually works anymore would be Chaos Space Marines Detachment and Thousand Sons/Death Guard Aux Detachment.