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What codex supplements would people like to see GW introduce, and for which books?

Personally, I'd love to see the Imperial Guard expanded.
Not necessarily just for the current regiments. But I'd like to see supplement: Guevesa, supplement: Renegades & Heretics, and supplement: Brood Brothers.
I think it would be a great way to expand on the xenos/chaos armies and bring these things to the fore-front.

None, please GW hear us out and stop with f...ing codex supplements. Rules are everywhere, too many sources exist already. Go digital or put everything inside a codex.

TBH, I agree.
But the cat's out of the bag and I'm wondering what people want it to do now it's out.

if you believe the Supplement would cover either gue'vesa formations or R&H effectively that's fine.
I however remain sceptical...

Also yeah GW should finally realise that supplements and rules sources everywere are bad, the recent free pts doccument showcased that they know that, now we only need to get rid of supplements, or tie access to them to the core dex for FREE, since this "consolidation" that SM had now was in essence nothing more then a attempt at double monetising the SM playerbase by shoveling down 2 rules sources for money reasons down their throat.

Can't think of any more but I'd second the vote for Renegades and Heretics, they should be seen far more on the tabletop if we go by the fluff.

Ork dex.

Grot revolution.
Speedfreaks.
Freebootas.

CSM dex:

Atleast the cult legions should be supplemental.
So that the remaining space could be used within dex CSM to represent the special renegades and other legions better.

AM:
Beyond potentially carrying Gue' vesa and R&H, should also probably have a PDF supplement.

Craftworlders:
Saim han and black guardian spam come to mind as potential candidates?

GSC:
honestly i think a better custom creed generation would've been good enough

Tyranids:
As above, custom trait system that actually works..

Darkeldar:
There's an argument to be made to setlle corsairs down here, and to make a nutjob homunculi one.
Other than that, i'd assume a better custom traits table would help aswell.

 kirotheavenger wrote:
TBH, I agree.
But the cat's out of the bag and I'm wondering what people want it to do now it's out.

I want GW to treat it like a Squat & make it go away.
Or at least stop & not be expanded to any non-marine forces. I do not appreciate having to reference TWO books just to run my Space Wolves.

No supplement necessarily, but I want them to make a huge guard Codex with decent rules and option for all the unique guard regiments as well as new kits for them.

Though in the long run I have to agree with addnid on the fact that GW has to switch to digital rules at some point. The only thing I don't like about that is the fact that I always greatly enjoyed the lore and unit descriptions in the army codices, though it has to be said that GW dialed down the lore in the 9th ed codices significantly anyway, which is a shame imo...

ccs wrote:

 kirotheavenger wrote:
TBH, I agree.
But the cat's out of the bag and I'm wondering what people want it to do now it's out.

stop & not be expanded to any non-marine forces.

Yeah, we know.

Corsairs b.c I love them and they are gone now.
Abhumans aka Beastmen Guard/chaos

 addnid wrote:
None, please GW hear us out and stop with f...ing codex supplements. Rules are everywhere, too many sources exist already. Go digital or put everything inside a codex.

This

Custodes! I mean, the thread asked for our personal preference, sooo...

If I'm just picking who could use one and make decent use of it probably Tau or Craftworld.

Orks: Grot Revolushunary Kommittee
Tau: Kroot Mercenaries, Gue'vesa (maybe this is an Astra Militarum Supplement instead?)
Chaos Space Marines: Alpha Legion, Word Bearers, Black Legion, Night Lords, Iron Warriors
Astra Militarum: Militarum Tempestus

 Huron black heart wrote:
Can't think of any more but I'd second the vote for Renegades and Heretics, they should be seen far more on the tabletop if we go by the fluff.

Renegades and Heretics should not be a supplement. That was the whole issue that existed with them to start with--they pulled from IG but lost chunks of rules.

Tau obviously with a Farsight Enclaves supplement.
Tyranids with a triple set of supplemental books detailing the 'stages' of an invasion. So a Vanguard book, Invasion book, 'Victory' book.
Orks with the different Ork Clans getting some love. Alternatively, it could be Meks, Kults of Speed, and Savage Orks.
Guard are a tough one, IMO, as the initial concept would likely be people suggesting "Do one for each of the Regiments!"...but that's not really how I think it should work. A book for Deathworld Regiments, a book for Bastion World Regiments, and a book for Feral World Regiments would be ideal.
AdMech could stand to get a Xenarites supplement, allowing for Stygies to get some extra loving beyond just the "-1 to be hit" bit.
Chaos Marines: Alpha Legion, Night Lords, Iron Warriors, Black Legion, and Renegades+Red Corsairs.
I didn't add World Eaters or Children of the Emperor as I feel those two are likely to get their own full codices.
Genestealer Cult don't need a supplement book. They just need to have the 'Brood Brothers' items that they should be allowed to take rolled into their book proper so you don't need to reference the IG codex.
Necrons could use a Destroyer Cult and Flayed One setup.

If they were a supplement you wouldn't have the problem with them losing rules, as they'd keep all the rules but gain new ones.

Thinking more, Imperial Guard supplements for stuff like Krieg and Elysian regiments would also be very cool.
Not that Elysians are much of a thing anymore...

You would not necessarily keep all the rules while gaining new ones...and it defeats the whole literal purpose of "Renegades and Heretics", which was a Chaos force built up using Planetary Defence Forces and 'scum' ...not Guardsmen.

I expect Ynnari to be a Supplement to all three Aeldari factions.

I expect Ynnari, if they follow the outlined concepts they initially talked about, to be their own book.

Ynnari

That's it. Not even WE or EC would really be deserving even if I wouldn't mind it, because they don't have a lot of structure outside normal CSM.

To me a supplement is that spot where they're too small for their own full book like DG, but too distinct to play like their source.

 Kanluwen wrote:
You would not necessarily keep all the rules while gaining new ones...and it defeats the whole literal purpose of "Renegades and Heretics", which was a Chaos force built up using Planetary Defence Forces and 'scum' ...not Guardsmen.

Except that is and was not true and you should know better.

Or was the "bloody handed reaver" not preciscly that, a traitor regiment enabler?



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 Daedalus81 wrote:
Ynnari

That's it. Not even WE or EC would really be deserving even if I wouldn't mind it, because they don't have a lot of structure outside normal CSM.

To me a supplement is that spot where they're too small for their own full book like DG, but too distinct to play like their source.

^
By that same meassure neither TS nor DG deserved a dex aswell if we are here to debate honestly.

 kirotheavenger wrote:
What codex supplements would people like to see GW introduce, and for which books?

Codex: Witch Hunters, to fold the Inquisition into an active line before they take their last lap around the drain.

Codex: Talons of the Emperor. No point hold off on it until a more complete SoS release if there isn't one on the horizon.

There is loads of scope for this and would enjoy more background material which is the main reason for them IMO

For me the obvious one is Tau: Alien Auxiliaries - expand options for Kroot etc and introduce the ones from the lore.

book for Deathworld Regiments, a book for Bastion World Regiments, and a book for Feral World Regiments would be ideal.

I like this idea alot.

Imperial Knight: Household. Rules for all the cool stuff in the lore - especially the Andy Clark novels.

Adeptus Asartes: Renegades: Rules for the many renegade Chapters and groups using the base Codex as a starting point.

Dark Eldar - one for each element - Kabal, Kult and Coven.

I think you all THINK you want 400 pg codexes that cost $120 each because it hasn't happened.

I think if it had happened, you'd be complaining about carrying a 400 page book when you're using 50 pages, or paying for subfactions you never intend to play.

As for rules bloat; since the model of 40k is "buy rules for what you play," not "buy rules for every army that exists," I'm not sure how rules bloat is the problem it's made out to be.

Because the rules for what I play are huge.
Plus you need a basic level of understanding about what your opponent is going to be doing, as you will wander blissfully unaware into a strategem wombo-combo and lose.

Not sure i follow, Penitent, considering that there still seems to be rather lackluster overall vision for an edition or the dexes the more the higher the chances are that we get IH level nonsense.

Not Online!!! wrote:
By that same meassure neither TS nor DG deserved a dex aswell if we are here to debate honestly.

CSM won't have access to Morty, Blightlords, Deathshrouds, the 8 or so characters, drones, PBCs, or Pox. Likewise Exalted Sorcs, Tzaangors of all varieties, and mutalith. TS will also never use MoE, Exalted Champs, Lords, any marine that is not dust or not a sorcerer and so on.

Thousand Sons needs a bit of expansion to be a functional stand alone army like DG. They can do a lot of that through psychic abilities and de-blandifying exalted sorcerers.

Codex Snakebites, with feral Orks, plastic Squiggoths and gargantuan Squiggoths, Squig Squads, Boar riders and proper Grot troops. It's also an easy one for GW because all the models are already available (aside from the plastic Squiggoths).

 Daedalus81 wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
By that same meassure neither TS nor DG deserved a dex aswell if we are here to debate honestly.

CSM won't have access to Morty, Blightlords, Deathshrouds, the 8 or so characters, drones, PBCs, or Pox. Likewise Exalted Sorcs, Tzaangors of all varieties, and mutalith. TS will also never use MoE, Exalted Champs, Lords, any marine that is not dust or not a sorcerer and so on.

Thousand Sons needs a bit of expansion to be a functional stand alone army like DG. They can do a lot of that through psychic abilities and de-blandifying exalted sorcerers.

oh really now:

Morty: named charachter, so like WE with angron. so does not qualify
Deathshrouds: a bunch of terminators of nurgle. So would red butchers which do not qualify for some reasons.
PBC are a normal heresy bombard but nurgle, so does not qualify.
Poxwalkers--> cultists. So does not qualify.

So no, again there's no reason as to why WC and EC shouldn't be their own dex comapred to TS or DG.

Not Online!!! wrote:


oh really now:

Morty: named charachter, so like WE with angron. so does not qualify
Deathshrouds: a bunch of terminators of nurgle. So would red butchers which do not qualify for some reasons.
PBC are a normal heresy bombard but nurgle, so does not qualify.
Poxwalkers--> cultists. So does not qualify.

So no, again there's no reason as to why WC and EC shouldn't be their own dex comapred to TS or DG.

But EC and WE would not use Pox. They would use cultists, which is the point. PBCs may be heresy bombards, but that's not equipment those chapters decided fit their "thing".

Deathshrouds are bodyguards for characters that do not exist in any other chapter. It would make no sense to have them in CSM.

Not Online!!! wrote:

 Daedalus81 wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
By that same meassure neither TS nor DG deserved a dex aswell if we are here to debate honestly.

CSM won't have access to Morty, Blightlords, Deathshrouds, the 8 or so characters, drones, PBCs, or Pox. Likewise Exalted Sorcs, Tzaangors of all varieties, and mutalith. TS will also never use MoE, Exalted Champs, Lords, any marine that is not dust or not a sorcerer and so on.

Thousand Sons needs a bit of expansion to be a functional stand alone army like DG. They can do a lot of that through psychic abilities and de-blandifying exalted sorcerers.

oh really now:

Morty: named charachter, so like WE with angron. so does not qualify
Deathshrouds: a bunch of terminators of nurgle. So would red butchers which do not qualify for some reasons.
PBC are a normal heresy bombard but nurgle, so does not qualify.
Poxwalkers--> cultists. So does not qualify.

So no, again there's no reason as to why WC and EC shouldn't be their own dex comapred to TS or DG.

can you not argue in bad faith?

Morty has rules in 40k, angron doesnt.
Regular terminators don't have plague spitters/bubotic axes/flails and t5. Nor do they have the ability to act as bodyguards
Normal heresy era bombards don't have rules in 40k and arent demonically possessed.
Poxwalkers are very different than cultists....

And nobody said that WE/EC shouldnt have their own codexes....