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Made in au
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I’m wanting to put together a 25pt list for a combat patrol against Harlequins.
I’ve got access to:

1 start collecting Astra Militarum
2 Leman Russ (2 battle cannons with HBs all round)
A command squad box (unbuilt)
30 Cadian guardsmen (2 boxes unbuilt)
3 ogryn

New to the game and will also be starting a Crusade forced from these also with the first game being 25PL and the second will be 50PL
Any help would be great

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Made in ca
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Sounds like you have a pretty good start. I would go with something like this:

Patrol Detachment
HQ: Company Commander
HQ: Tank Commander Executioner with Lascannon and Plasma Cannons. (I'm not sure if you can build an Executioner from the Start Collecting Leman Russ. If not, just slot a Battle Cannon here.)
TROOP: Infantry Squad
TROOP: Infantry Squad
ELITE: 3x Bullgryn with Bullgryn Mauls and Brute Shields

That's 25 PL on the nose. Since your playing power level, how you equip the Infantry squads is up to you, but I would recommend a special weapon in each. To go up to the next bracket, I would add two more infantry squads and the other two Leman Russ Battle Tanks.

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Made in ca
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 counterwavecounter wrote:
Sounds like you have a pretty good start. I would go with something like this:

Patrol Detachment
HQ: Company Commander
HQ: Tank Commander Executioner with Lascannon and Plasma Cannons. (I'm not sure if you can build an Executioner from the Start Collecting Leman Russ. If not, just slot a Battle Cannon here.)
TROOP: Infantry Squad
TROOP: Infantry Squad
ELITE: 3x Bullgryn with Bullgryn Mauls and Brute Shields


Good advice there.

Try not to glue the guns in your tanks, they can friction fit pretty well for swapping around in crusade
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut





A small piece of paper. Bent around the edge of the gun firmly fixes it on place but can be still removed to hot swap

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Made in au
Fresh-Faced New User




Cheers! That’s looks like a great list! Unfortunately you can’t make a executioner out of the box.. so battle cannon it is with las and plasmas and I have ogryn not bullgryn which I got second hand so can change load out

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Consider building an opposition force to use agaisnt your own army with your other troops and here are some suggestions to put into it.
I would make them catachans because its a totally good faction in a lot of ways, and you can get some interesting character into your army with the stuff you have lying around that you haven't used yet.


Command.
Lord commisar with powersword and bolter pistol. This is gonna be (usually) the opposition warlord with (my suggestion) old grudges against a tank commander, and a relic that is either the blade of conquest (makes him a melee beast, in gaurd terms) or the sniper pistol "emperor's benediction". PL3.
Straken. This guy isn't hard to model with a few spare items lying around from the command squad box. " plasma pistol, shotgun, frag grenades, krak grenades and a bionic arm with devil’s claw" ... but what IS a devils' claw? Usually its a sword of some kind, so basically, you can simply (for now) make him as an officer with a pistol in his belt, a shotgun in his one hand, and a sword in the other arm -- which you can pretty likely paint as metalic color to designate him a 4 powerlevel guy. Stracken behaves in combat a bit like a marine of some kind, but pairing him with the melee oriented lord commisar gives your ogryn a good fighting opponent. 4pl. All catachans near him fight with an extra melee attack, and he has 2 voice of command orders to pass on.
So 18 pl remain. But since you went themeatic cadians? Pick up that unused heavy bolter and put it in the hands of a single model. Viola, you just made harkness, the iconic buffing character that stands by heavy artillery in the catachan discipline. He is powerlevel 3, and all the catachans near him shoot with reroll of 1's to hit. His iconic weapon .. he is simply the only guy in the gaurd to carry a heavy bolter by himself. Its a nice one, s5/-2/2, so he is a sort of cheap heavy weapons platform all his own self, in addition to buffing other shooters. Since he lugs it around as his pet ASSAULT weapon, he doesn't take minuses for firing on the move.
15 pl remain.
2 go to a command squad -- its not GREAT with the gear you have available, but you can give it 3 grenade launchers and a flamer (catachans's special order burn them out is very themeatic and actually quite useful) so that it. 2 PL.
10 actual troops in a catachan patrol? Got to have a flamer, some kind of heavy weapon (mortar is a nice pick, or autocannon, it depends on what is leftover from your main force). You may have to cut a physical cardboard circle that is the size of a heavy weapons IF team for now to make a ghetto HWT out of 2 regular troop bodies and an autocannon. One of them can be humping the cannon and the other one carrying a shovel and an ammo box, as they move through the jungles that catachans always find. If you haven't spent your bolter in a sargent on the main force you built, give this catachan squad's sarge a bolter, why not!

And finally, a leman russ battle tank. Just make it different from the one you got in your force so you can play aroudn with ...
a pair of multimeltas and a heavy flamer, and the ubiquitous battlecannon (a decent turret choice, I reckon).

Viola! You have a patrol you can set up on your kitchen table between the cereal bowl (a temple of slanessh) and the box of krispex (the massive industrial plant, once you lay that on its side) and fight your own tiny battles when you are at home some sunday night with nothing to do. These catachans will lend themselves to a slightly different playstyle from your main list as they generically like melee a bit more, but then again, they don't have the ogryn to bring in. Your tank isn't a tank commander, but it does reroll 1's if harkness is near, so its probably still effective -- and unlike the one you built over in your main force, it can at least fire its sponson and hull weapons while in melee (in case of ogryn).

Since you will (someday fairly soon) end up building out more troops anyway, you can (for now) use these guys to make a flavorfull opposition -- but you can also decide at the drop of a hat "I want to be catachans today "and accomplish it by dropping stracken and harkness into the mix, turning any force you create into an instant catcahan army (even if the color scheme is way off. My own catachans are bronze and brown with red highlights, for example, but then again, they are cadians sometimes by simply removing stracken/harkness and adding a creed guy with a little pair of pistols.

Anyway. That's my suggestion. Play a few games against yourself, and you can start swapping out heavy weapons and special weapons in the various squads on each side, till you find a mix you personally like. -- the force here is also 25 PL, so your breakfast table fights will be evenly matched!

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