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But they'd be plastic and, importantly, available, which is honestly a lot better for most people

I still think it's equal parts impressive and appauling how Forgeworld convinced everyone to pay a premium price for a vastly inferior product compared to mainline GW

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
I still think it's equal parts impressive and appauling how Forgeworld convinced everyone to pay a premium price for a vastly inferior product compared to mainline GW

To be fair how long have the current FW Krieg been available? At least ten years?

Resin was a better material for detail until the last few years- well, except for Finecrap obviously. Plus other companies generally don't have the same QA issues that Forge World does, which probably has a lot to do with how much people are willing to forgive (or are just ignorant) when it comes to GW and their sub-companies.

As someone who had a lot of Krieg minis back in 2008/2009, I would love them to be in plastic. Maybe one in five of the ones I had didn’t have huge bubbles, a totally deformed weapon, broken feet, etc. This all right out of the package. It took so much work to “fix” them (ie make them the way they should have been in the first place) it was entirely not worth it. FW products have since gotten a litter better, but not much. Especially considering how much more expensive they have gotten.

 Arbitrator wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
I still think it's equal parts impressive and appauling how Forgeworld convinced everyone to pay a premium price for a vastly inferior product compared to mainline GW

To be fair how long have the current FW Krieg been available? At least ten years?

Resin was a better material for detail until the last few years- well, except for Finecrap obviously. Plus other companies generally don't have the same QA issues that Forge World does, which probably has a lot to do with how much people are willing to forgive (or are just ignorant) when it comes to GW and their sub-companies.

I mean, compared to plastic Resin may have more detail, but it's also way harder to work with, takes a lot more work to make it usable out of the package, (during which you can poison yourself and die without proper equipement) and the quality of the cast itself is way worse (full of bubbles, bent and deformed) and wheather or not the models you paid for are actually usable is pretty much based on luck. And based on all these factors, FW should actually be cheaper than GW by a significant margin, logically speaking.

 Sabotage! wrote:
As someone who had a lot of Krieg minis back in 2008/2009, I would love them to be in plastic. Maybe one in five of the ones I had didn’t have huge bubbles, a totally deformed weapon, broken feet, etc. This all right out of the package. It took so much work to “fix” them (ie make them the way they should have been in the first place) it was entirely not worth it. FW products have since gotten a litter better, but not much. Especially considering how much more expensive they have gotten.

Dang dude. You should have had customer service send you new stuff.

From Nafka:

Killteam
We will see a new Kill Team Edition in August with Astra Militarum vs. Orks Starter Set.

Astra Militarum
Those IG Models will be more generic "Trench Coat" Models, but clearly as Death Korp recognizable.

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2021/07/rumors-latest-intel-on-death-korps.html

Ahhh Natfka, that’s a name I haven’t seen for a while.

 ImAGeek wrote:
Ahhh Natfka, that’s a name I haven’t seen for a while.

Just like WarSeer, I used to frequent that site all the time. The last time I can think I used Faeit was when the fyreslayers first debuted, and then they disabled comments after a troll spent every post hating on them.

You can Comment on Nafka's Page again.

Someone did and mentioned that the original Source of this Rumor is Someone named Mikhael and that all his Rumors in the Past were correct (based on the Rumor Tracking Thread).

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/448304.page

So they'll be dropping a new Kill Team edition in the same month that the new Orruk Warclans and Stormcast Eternals battletomes go on pre-order? The only way I can see that happening is if the new battletomes go on pre-order on the 28th and release on October September 4th.

 GaroRobe wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
Ahhh Natfka, that’s a name I haven’t seen for a while.

Just like WarSeer, I used to frequent that site all the time. The last time I can think I used Faeit was when the fyreslayers first debuted, and then they disabled comments after a troll spent every post hating on them.

I miss warseer. Havent really been back since the great downtimeing. Faeit though, I still remember them taking a speculation post of mine off of warseer and posting it verbatim as a rumor.

If a cadian upgrade sprue can fit 25 heads, a great coat guard full kit could easily fit a set of heads to make either death korps or steel legion

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Scrub wrote:
Be still my beating heart! Talk about too many Christmases coming at once, along with new Orks... Yes bloody please!!!

Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment, especially if kodos turns out to be right.

Hehe, no doubt! I've caught myself pondering that the 'hoping', in a lead up to a release is, (rather tragically) the best bit of 40K these days. For all their faults the Space Marines Corp have the talent, financial muscle and experience to really hit a release for six... Just a shame that Nottingham's largest plastic crack dealer is, in one way or another, is constantly attempting to extract the urine.

Still, plastic Krieg should be a big deal. Kodos sensible observations be damed! I shall continue to enjoy that delicious, delicious hope!

Kdash wrote:
If they were finecast models, then i would agree with you, but, unless i am wrong, the only models that have crossed over from FW resin to GW plastic is the 2, soon to be 3, types of power armoured marines.

DKoK are a steady product for them, and a specialist force within the game. They aren't going to get their own codex, or get included in the Guard one due to being so different. At best they will get a supplement. GW will probably take over the writing of said supplement, but i personally wouldn't say that makes them top of the list for conversion into plastic.

I'm firmly in team 'convert to placcie!' on this one. As with some of the Horus Heresey range, release of plastic infantry in whatever guise may evolve into the purchasing of resin vehicle kits from Forgeworld by a new fanbase and Krieg are well positioned in the treadhead department.

 ImAGeek wrote:
Ahhh Natfka, that’s a name I haven’t seen for a while.

Talk about a blast from the past! Don't think I've been since the 'Warhammer community' page has been a thing.

 Ghaz wrote:
So they'll be dropping a new Kill Team edition in the same month that the new Orruk Warclans and Stormcast Eternals battletomes go on pre-order? The only way I can see that happening is if the new battletomes go on pre-order on the 28th and release on October 4th.

Uuuh there\s 4 weeks in august for releases. 1 stormcast, 1 orruk(if not same week ala necron&marines), 1 kill team, 1 for other.

And over month preorder window is "bit" excessive. Even new edition gets just 2 weeks.

Preorder SCE 7.8, preorder orruk 14.8, preorder KT 21.8. No issue. OR combine the battletomes. Not like there's no precedence(cough space marines cough necrons cough)

We already know SCE were supposed to be july. Preorder july, release on october would be weird

tneva82 wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:
So they'll be dropping a new Kill Team edition in the same month that the new Orruk Warclans and Stormcast Eternals battletomes go on pre-order? The only way I can see that happening is if the new battletomes go on pre-order on the 28th and release on October 4th.

Uuuh there\s 4 weeks in august for releases. 1 stormcast, 1 orruk(if not same week ala necron&marines), 1 kill team, 1 for other.

And over month preorder window is "bit" excessive. Even new edition gets just 2 weeks.

Preorder SCE 7.8, preorder orruk 14.8, preorder KT 21.8. No issue. OR combine the battletomes. Not like there's no precedence(cough space marines cough necrons cough)

We already know SCE were supposed to be july. Preorder july, release on october would be weird

There's a lot of new kits coming with the Stormcast and Orruk battletomes. It would be weird if not at least a few of them were released at the same time, especially for the Kruleboyz.

 Arbitrator wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
I still think it's equal parts impressive and appauling how Forgeworld convinced everyone to pay a premium price for a vastly inferior product compared to mainline GW

To be fair how long have the current FW Krieg been available? At least ten years?

Resin was a better material for detail until the last few years- well, except for Finecrap obviously. Plus other companies generally don't have the same QA issues that Forge World does, which probably has a lot to do with how much people are willing to forgive (or are just ignorant) when it comes to GW and their sub-companies.

Resin was better material for fine detail. That is true. GW, even FW rarely if ever approached that level of incredibly fine detail, and when they did, the quality was all over the place.

RazorEdge wrote:
From Nafka:

Killteam
We will see a new Kill Team Edition in August with Astra Militarum vs. Orks Starter Set.

Astra Militarum
Those IG Models will be more generic "Trench Coat" Models, but clearly as Death Korp recognizable.

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2021/07/rumors-latest-intel-on-death-korps.html

I don't really get this.

Generic trench coat guardsman, that look like Death Korp Guardsman, but aren't Death Korp for some reason? Either have them as generic trenchcoat guardsman who are a separate thing from Krieg with their own look, or if they look like Krieg just have them actually be those. I don't understand what the point in trying to do both is, as that would dilute the unique look of them.

 Ghaz wrote:
There's a lot of new kits coming with the Stormcast and Orruk battletomes. It would be weird if not at least a few of them were released at the same time, especially for the Kruleboyz.

Yeah. Like in the week the battletome gets released And there's still week left.

Like 6 week preorder window seems kinda excessive no matter how you look at it.

tneva82 wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:
There's a lot of new kits coming with the Stormcast and Orruk battletomes. It would be weird if not at least a few of them were released at the same time, especially for the Kruleboyz.

Yeah. Like in the week the battletome gets released And there's still week left.

Like 6 week preorder window seems kinda excessive no matter how you look at it.

You can see the October 4th is a Monday and September 4th is a Saturday...

 Ghaz wrote:
So they'll be dropping a new Kill Team edition in the same month that the new Orruk Warclans and Stormcast Eternals battletomes go on pre-order? The only way I can see that happening is if the new battletomes go on pre-order on the 28th and release on October September 4th.

 Mentlegen324 wrote:

RazorEdge wrote:
From Nafka:

Killteam
We will see a new Kill Team Edition in August with Astra Militarum vs. Orks Starter Set.

Astra Militarum
Those IG Models will be more generic "Trench Coat" Models, but clearly as Death Korp recognizable.

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2021/07/rumors-latest-intel-on-death-korps.html

I don't really get this.

Generic trench coat guardsman, that look like Death Korp Guardsman, but aren't Death Korp for some reason? Either have them as generic trenchcoat guardsman who are a separate thing from Krieg with their own look, or if they look like Krieg just have them actually be those. I don't understand what the point in trying to do both is, as that would dilute the unique look of them.

It'd be preferable, to be honest. Single-world guard identities are weird and don't make sense, and their legacy is still having frustrating effects on the faction rules and identity.
'Krieg' or 'Cadia' or whatever frankly means nothing to me- I'd rather have 'my troops' with a look I like rather than deal with the baggage of good artillery guys have to be from Planet X while resilient infantry have to be from Planet Y because reasons.

Several guard kits in different styles that can approach the look of specific regiments are much preferable to 'these are ONLY models from Planet X.'

 Mentlegen324 wrote:
I don't really get this.

Generic trench coat guardsman, that look like Death Korp Guardsman, but aren't Death Korp for some reason? Either have them as generic trenchcoat guardsman who are a separate thing from Krieg with their own look, or if they look like Krieg just have them actually be those. I don't understand what the point in trying to do both is, as that would dilute the unique look of them.

Something like this would tick all the same boxes as Death Korps without literally being poilus with stahlhelms, the sort of overtly historical design that GW is trying to get away from.

They could call these Krieg and it wouldn't be any bigger of a change than when they went from an alternate Steel Legion scheme to their current minis.

 Mentlegen324 wrote:

RazorEdge wrote:
From Nafka:

Killteam
We will see a new Kill Team Edition in August with Astra Militarum vs. Orks Starter Set.

Astra Militarum
Those IG Models will be more generic "Trench Coat" Models, but clearly as Death Korp recognizable.

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2021/07/rumors-latest-intel-on-death-korps.html

I don't really get this.

Generic trench coat guardsman, that look like Death Korp Guardsman, but aren't Death Korp for some reason? Either have them as generic trenchcoat guardsman who are a separate thing from Krieg with their own look, or if they look like Krieg just have them actually be those. I don't understand what the point in trying to do both is, as that would dilute the unique look of them.

Nafka was/is known to take existing rumors and massage them into "believable" rumors. People here have already made connections to everything in that rumor before it even existed.

That's a great piece of artwork.

Generic trench coat guardsmen would be nice from a your dudes perspective and even nice if there were bits in the box to model them as DKoK, Armageddon Steel Legion, or insert other long coat Regiment.

Oh no... I wonder if we're due some new and fancy 'Astra Militarum lineage frontline extirpate force' infantry because Krieg is a bit German and upsets the lawyers.

 Ghaz wrote:
So they'll be dropping a new Kill Team edition in the same month that the new Orruk Warclans and Stormcast Eternals battletomes go on pre-order? The only way I can see that happening is if the new battletomes go on pre-order on the 28th and release on October September 4th.

from their announcement it was clear that the Battletomes are released in September, so August being the KT release is fine

 kodos wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:
So they'll be dropping a new Kill Team edition in the same month that the new Orruk Warclans and Stormcast Eternals battletomes go on pre-order? The only way I can see that happening is if the new battletomes go on pre-order on the 28th and release on October September 4th.

from their announcement it was clear that the Battletomes are released in September, so August being the KT release is fine

Their announcement from Warhammer Community:

The new Orruk Warclans and Stormcast Eternals battletomes are available to pre-order in August. A third battletome will follow these in October – something a little more Chaos-flavoured, we hear. And this is just the beginning – there’s a lot in store for the new edition of Warhammer Age of Sigmar.

The live feed may have been a bit more specific.

 Scrub wrote:
Oh no... I wonder if we're due some new and fancy 'Astra Militarum lineage frontline extirpate force' infantry because Krieg is a bit German and upsets the lawyers.

Yeah probably.

I won't be buying any generic coat guard that's for sure.

"pre-Order in August" can also mean "Release in September".

Couldn't they have an accessory sprue(or break up what parts are on which sprue) to give the helmeted/gas mask look for either steel legion or krieg?

"pre-order in August" means release in September, otherwise it would say release in August