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My other half will lose it if plastic Krieg show up, for the longest time she debated getting in on the FW army, but the cost was just too much.

Looking forward to seeing any new Orks myself.

 xttz wrote:

zamerion wrote:


What surprises me is that Black Templars are supposed to come out in September / October.

Says who? GW said yesterday there will be a Chaos AOS armybook in October, plus there's Ork wave 2 and probably other AOS stuff likely to come by then too.

black templars will get a simple supplement in one of these campaign books garenteed

Getting out vox casts to the Steel Legion...

They should be informed....

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
It would be hilarious if Plastic Krieg ended up being cheaper than Plastic Cadians

Well they certainly wont need as many bare head options

GoatboyBeta wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
It would be hilarious if Plastic Krieg ended up being cheaper than Plastic Cadians

Well they certainly wont need as many bare head options

At the least, plastic Krieg will have about 40 less poses than the resin ones. And if they are in plastic, FW can drop the resin Krieg SKUs and bring back Elysians!

Here's hoping this kill team edition / system / whatever it's going to be, is more like shadow war armageddon. Kill team felt way more gamey and less tactictal than it should have been.

The readying mechanic disintivized fire and maneuver to such a large extant too. I felt like if my models weren't staying still I was being punished.

Give me flanking, and pinning please!

Really? Shadow War Armageddon was one of the most painful systems I've ever played.

"Oh your made your Armor Save against some bullets. Sorry you're pinned and useless now, tough luck."

Kill Team 1e was the sweet spot for me, 2e added a lot of mechanical complexity. Lot of good ideas but just too many layers of rules and the progression system had a lot of "bonus but only in this case" abilities.

 The Red Hobbit wrote:
Really? Shadow War Armageddon was one of the most painful systems I've ever played.

"Oh your made your Armor Save against some bullets. Sorry you're pinned and useless now, tough luck."

You obviously never played the original Necromunda.

Pinning is a vital mechanic to that game.

I have not and I'm not a fan of pinning. I felt bad when the Space Marine player essentially couldn't take a turn because I had more Boyz and Shootas than he had turns.

 The Red Hobbit wrote:
Really? Shadow War Armageddon was one of the most painful systems I've ever played.

"Oh your made your Armor Save against some bullets. Sorry you're pinned and useless now, tough luck."

Kill Team 1e was the sweet spot for me, 2e added a lot of mechanical complexity. Lot of good ideas but just too many layers of rules and the progression system had a lot of "bonus but only in this case" abilities.

yeah, that was awesome! You got around this by typically buddying up with another friendly unit within 3 inchs i think. It created a system where you also didn't put all your eggs in one basket, and bounded up squads so that they could each support the other. I REALLY enjoyed that system. Granted I did win the local campaign....

Current kill team has an entirely differnt design philosophy that is far more list buildy and gamey.

Maybe Kill Team 2.0 will dip into the Crusade well and you’ll be able to play tournament type games as well as more narrative/rpg type games.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
It would be hilarious if Plastic Krieg ended up being cheaper than Plastic Cadians

Eeh gw doesn't make new kits cheaper than old. Cadians are 35e/10. That's lowest krieg would be

tneva82 wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
It would be hilarious if Plastic Krieg ended up being cheaper than Plastic Cadians

Eeh gw doesn't make new kits cheaper than old. Cadians are 35e/10. That's lowest krieg would be

Back before FW brought in regional pricing and as an Australian you could buy Krieg at UK prices, they were actually similar price to what Cadians are now

Of course then GW started their regional pricing on FW stuff with their imaginary exchange rates and blew that idea out of the water.

I'm 50/50 on whether I'd want GW to bring out plastic Kriegers, if they do them in typical GW bobblehead style it will ruin the aesthetic that FW have created.

Well plastic Kriegs or not it will take time before there is going to be separate release for it if it comes with killteam set.

I guess those will be more generic "Trench Coat IG" Models, maybe with Heads for Krieg and Armageddon Regiments.

Plastic Krieg and Orks in a spanking new KT box, everything is new and shiny - take your bets!

RazorEdge wrote:
I guess those will be more generic "Trench Coat IG" Models, maybe with Heads for Krieg and Armageddon Regiments.

That's not really how GW designs models anymore. These days everything is much more monopose and with fewer options.

In this case, I could see a basic greatcoat (Krieg) infantry box and then perhaps upgrade sprues for Steel Legion, Valhallans, and possibly Vostroyans.

 Agamemnon2 wrote:

RazorEdge wrote:
I guess those will be more generic "Trench Coat IG" Models, maybe with Heads for Krieg and Armageddon Regiments.

That's not really how GW designs models anymore. These days everything is much more monopose and with fewer options.

Looking on other Monopose Plastic Sets, I don't see how Monopose make different Head options impossible.

 Sotahullu wrote:
Well plastic Kriegs or not it will take time before there is going to be separate release for it if it comes with killteam set.

Should that be the case then the wait shouldn't be too long. The models in the Pariah Nexus set were about three months later for their separate release, and maybe we'll see the IG codex drop at the same time.

RazorEdge wrote:

 Agamemnon2 wrote:

RazorEdge wrote:
I guess those will be more generic "Trench Coat IG" Models, maybe with Heads for Krieg and Armageddon Regiments.

That's not really how GW designs models anymore. These days everything is much more monopose and with fewer options.

Looking on other Monopose Plastic Sets, I don't see how Monopose make different Head options impossible.

Eradicators, anyone?

When I walked into the preview thread for Orks I didn't expect to find rumors for plastic Krieg. I hope that actually comes to pass.

Hoping if Nids appear in this wars zone its in a second book, otherwise I'd expect just a single model or something as Orks are the primary focus of the first one and with rumours of Krieg as well that would squeeze out a model update for Nids.

Plastic Krieg could be why we haven’t seen the Grenadiers, Centaur and Death Rider’s come back into stock on the FW site. Maybe there’s going to be plastic kits for these?

I will say, plastic Krieg would be awesome, but they have some big boots to fill. The resin DKoK models are fantastic.

I see what you did there.

If we do get a new guards regiment (which I doubt unfortunately)i wonder if they'll do an upgrade sprue to get these new guys on the AM vehicules

Hmm why the big time difference between Berlin and London though?

 Malika2 wrote:
Hmm why the big time difference between Berlin and London though?

Because Berlin has moved to the same time zone as New York, didn’t you get the memo?

It’s obviously a mistake, but considering they’re always at the same time it’s a weird mistake to make. Just use the same chart surely.

Malika2 wrote:Hmm why the big time difference between Berlin and London though?

Merkel was in London a few days ago. One of the results of the negotiations is, that we'll see this preview 5 hours earlier than everyone else. That's how diplomacy works.

ImAGeek wrote:It’s obviously a mistake, but considering they’re always at the same time it’s a weird mistake to make. Just use the same chart surely.

Germany would be 7pm.