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Context tells you that , as it is a response to a power being cast. Each time a power is cast, yiu are permitted to deny.

You're arguing in bad faith. Same as the two "friends"

nosferatu1001 wrote:
Context tells you that , as it is a response to a power being cast. Each time a power is cast, yiu are permitted to deny.

You're arguing in bad faith. Same as the two "friends"

Assigning bad intent on my part for quoting GW's rules is really not fair. You might not like what the rules say, but GW chose the language and it's not my fault for reading through it closely.

I've explained the rule as stated in context and spelled out the specific details multiple times in this thread. The language is clear and unambiguous. Most of this thread has been dominated by whether or not 'negate' and 'resist' constitute a deny attempt. While that's much less clear than the issue I've cited, it's generated far fewer accusations.

A valid response might be to say 'there are limits to RAW,' 'clearly this is not what they intended,' 'GW needs to fix this,' etc. There are FAQs that might resolve the issue with the wording, there are 200+ additional pages of rulebook that may provide some clarity, there is plenty of language in other rules to suggest the designers intended DTW to be used more than once per game. Feel free to cite those.

But calling me names doesn't prove your point or help anyone understand the Loremaster WLT. The point of YMDC is to work through issues with ambiguous rules, not to attack people for reading them.

Not calling you names. Stating an apparent fact.

You've ignored context each time. We know this, because you take one sentence out and state it applies to the game, when it relates to the para it is in, which is how to deny a power once it is manifest. Each time

Yiure also massively off topic, which is another indicator of bad faith. The topic isn't "why, when you read a sentence out of context, does it appear I can only do x once per game?!?!" but the more sensible one of what counts as deny. Stick to the topic, or leave.

nosferatu1001 wrote:
Not calling you names. Stating an apparent fact.

You've ignored context each time. We know this, because you take one sentence out and state it applies to the game, when it relates to the para it is in, which is how to deny a power once it is manifest. Each time

Yiure also massively off topic, which is another indicator of bad faith. The topic isn't "why, when you read a sentence out of context, does it appear I can only do x once per game?!?!" but the more sensible one of what counts as deny. Stick to the topic, or leave.

On the contrary:

- I've quoted the DTW rule in full and explained the sentence in context.

- I've responded to concerns over grammar and conditional language.

- And I've asked for citations that challenge this RAW interpretation. I've even spelled out what valid responses might look like.

The relation to the Loremaster WLT is obvious. RAW, it can only be used once per game.

 techsoldaten wrote:

 DeathReaper wrote:

 techsoldaten wrote:

Your citation says the opposing player CAN attempt to deny that power by passing a Deny the Witch test. It does not grant your opponent the ability to use Deny the Witch more than once per game.

False. It grants permission to deny each time, that is what can means.

That is incorrect. RAW, DTW can be performed once per game.

Again, you are incorrect, I have shown rules quotes that show why your argument is demonstrably false.

Stop with the misinformation, it is not helping anyone.

I mean, litterally any model with more than 1 deny per turn proves you can deny more than once per game...........

 Eihnlazer wrote:
I mean, litterally any model with more than 1 deny per turn proves you can deny more than once per game...........

Exactly correct. Along with the overwhelming evidence I have posted, this matter should be put to bed.

Any arguments against are disingenuous and ignoring context.

 techsoldaten wrote:

nosferatu1001 wrote:
Not calling you names. Stating an apparent fact.

You've ignored context each time. We know this, because you take one sentence out and state it applies to the game, when it relates to the para it is in, which is how to deny a power once it is manifest. Each time

Yiure also massively off topic, which is another indicator of bad faith. The topic isn't "why, when you read a sentence out of context, does it appear I can only do x once per game?!?!" but the more sensible one of what counts as deny. Stick to the topic, or leave.

On the contrary:

- I've quoted the DTW rule in full and explained the sentence in context.

- I've responded to concerns over grammar and conditional language.

- And I've asked for citations that challenge this RAW interpretation. I've even spelled out what valid responses might look like.

The relation to the Loremaster WLT is obvious. RAW, it can only be used once per game.

Incorrect, as proven repeatedly. Only you think otherwise. Luckily, that's not our problem

And, you know, it's still off topic. Maybe get back to the topic , or start your own thread, but trolling so,done else's ? Nah.

 techsoldaten wrote:

nosferatu1001 wrote:
Context tells you that , as it is a response to a power being cast. Each time a power is cast, yiu are permitted to deny.

You're arguing in bad faith. Same as the two "friends"

Assigning bad intent on my part for quoting GW's rules is really not fair.

Assigning bad intent on your part for me giving you an answer to your challenge and you just blowing it off, claiming GW is contradictory all the time and ignoring that you had been given the proof in the first place is certainly fair.

Let's go with the argument that you can deny each power once per game (since the BRB clearly states that each power can be denied once). Where in the rulebook does it state that you can cast each power more than once per game? With the exception of smite which can be used multiple times in a round by certain factions I don't think you'll find that rule.

It doesn't, but then that's not what the bad faith argument is for. It has the same context as deny, as it deals with casting a power and a power only.

That was my point. If you can only cast each power once then you've just make a mockery of the psychic phase and psykers in general.

It's obvious, to me at least, that each power can be attempted to be cast once per round and with each casting the opponent has the opportunity to try to deny it. The "can" in the denial rule is to show that they don't have to try to deny if you don't want to (wheter due to not having any denies left that round or for a tactical reason).

Oh yes, we all know that. They're just behaving like a troll - coming in with an off topic comment, vociferously defending a point that entirely ignores what's written and the basis of it, etc

This thread seems to have run its course.