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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/02/09 16:28:25
Subject: Founding + successor together?
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Grovelin' Grot
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I got back into the hobby last year after a 7 year hiatus (mostly just painting/modelling before as i was very young then) and I still have yet to play a proper game of 9th, i guess that makes me a kind of a newbie. Anyways i was wondering if there were any particular rules/restrictions for what I’m considering:
If I were to have an army of Blood Angels, and paint half of said army as Lamenters or Angels Sanguine or some other successor… could I simply just do that? Or is there a specifc limitation/rule for that which is more complicated than just aesthetics? I haven’t given the marine codex a good read yet as I’m still unsure of how to build a proper list (again, newbie). I should propbably figure that out soon. Is this topic specifically mentioned anywhere in any books? If so where?
I really like the idea of founding chapters waging war alongside their successors, especially blood angels for narrative reasons
Any help with this would be appreciated!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/02/09 16:37:15
Subject: Founding + successor together?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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They have recently changed the rules so that effectively only one chapter may be played with ruleswise at a time. At a casual level noone will care about you saying your lamenters are BA for rules purposes.
Most players and almost all events will not care what paint scheme you use.
Some competative events may Care about a cohesive paint scheme for the army as a legacy from when you needed multiple paint schemes in the same army to represent multiple chapters.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/02/09 18:02:50
Subject: Founding + successor together?
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Grovelin' Grot
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U02dah4 wrote:They have recently changed the rules so that effectively only one chapter may be played with ruleswise at a time. At a casual level noone will care about you saying your lamenters are BA for rules purposes.
Most players and almost all events will not care what paint scheme you use.
Some competative events may Care about a cohesive paint scheme for the army as a legacy from when you needed multiple paint schemes in the same army to represent multiple chapters.
Interesting, thank you!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/02/10 00:46:02
Subject: Founding + successor together?
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Preparing the Invasion of Terra
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That's actually not entirely true.
You cannot field more than one subfaction per army but only if you're using the Nachmund Grand Tournament packet.
Outside of that, there is no issue taking multiple detachments with different Chapters. You could run them all in the same detachment, provided you inform your opponent that you are only using one set of Chapter Tactics.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/02/10 00:54:56
Subject: Founding + successor together?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Which 99% of people do both competive players and hobbiests
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/02/10 01:00:09
Subject: Founding + successor together?
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Preparing the Invasion of Terra
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U02dah4 wrote:Which 99% of people do both competive players and hobbiests
Dude that's so far from the truth it's laughable. Ignoring the fact that most hobbyists don't even play 40k, the rule in question is not a core rule of 40k and is not enforceable in any situation outside of a GT event. People need to know that so they don't rock up to a game and have a boat load of rules spewed at them that aren't actually relevant to a pickup game. Pretending that the GT packet is how all players play 40k is dishonest.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/02/10 05:44:36
Subject: Founding + successor together?
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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Gert wrote:That's actually not entirely true.
You cannot field more than one subfaction per army but only if you're using the Nachmund Grand Tournament packet.
Outside of that, there is no issue taking multiple detachments with different Chapters. You could run them all in the same detachment, provided you inform your opponent that you are only using one set of Chapter Tactics.
There are rules about losing your (super) doctrines which are detachment abilities and only apply if your army is mono-(sub)faction. Most players don't give those up, plus most pickup games will default to the most recent "tournament" ruleset just so everyone has a common ground understanding and get to play rather than debate a hundred or more what-if's.
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My WHFB armies were Bretonians and Tomb Kings. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/02/10 08:53:51
Subject: Founding + successor together?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Indeed It is how most players play pickup games because one player building to the current rules standard and one player ignoreing half the rules creates for unbalanced games.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/02/10 09:40:03
Subject: Founding + successor together?
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Preparing the Invasion of Terra
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Yeah, I'm not doing this.
OP you can take multiple detachments with different Chapters or if you're pressured into playing a GT packet in a pick-up game then just paint the army however and explain the army uses the one Chapter Tactic.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/02/10 09:43:33
Subject: Founding + successor together?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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As above
The plural of anecdote isn't "data".
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