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Hello, Hello,

It’s my first post here. So I hope it’s in the right place. If not, MODs please move.

At a tournament a grey nights player, place placed a few of his interceptor on the board. Then they teleported all the way on top of our flag. And maintained objective secured throughout the whole process.

After reading a few data sheets I can’t see how that’s possible? Did he cheat? I see a few stratagems to do that but then you would have to use 2 stratagems in the same round, to make the interceptor obsec and teleport. I thought you could only use one per turn. Also he would have to have brought a teleported pack with him. What am I missing here?

I know the grey nights where designed to defeat the Drukhari in the story line. But dang is this really supposed to be this difficult for me to win or is he cheating?

Thank’s,

Slaneshes1stVictom

intersesors ? I do not see any unit called intersesors in the Grey Knights Codex.

Was it perhaps a Interceptor Squad?

Because the Interceptor Squad has a rule called "Teleport Strike"

But either way, the same Stratagem cannot be used by the same player more than once during any single phase.

You can play two different strats in a round.

 DeathReaper wrote:
intersesors ? I do not see any unit called intersesors in the Grey Knights Codex.

Was it perhaps a Interceptor Squad?

Because the Interceptor Squad has a rule called "Teleport Strike"

But either way, the same Stratagem cannot be used by the same player more than once during any single phase.

You can play two different strats in a round.

Yes an interceptor. Sorry for the typo. Will edit the original post. So which of the grey knights units can do what he did? Also, do they need a teleported pack and/stratagems/deployment strategies to do that?

Slaneshes1stVictom wrote:
Hello, Hello,

It’s my first post here. So I hope it’s in the right place. If not, MODs please move.

At a tournament a grey nights player, place placed a few of his interceptor on the board. Then they teleported all the way on top of our flag. And maintained objective secured throughout the whole process.

After reading a few data sheets I can’t see how that’s possible? Did he cheat? I see a few stratagems to do that but then you would have to use 2 stratagems in the same round, to make the interceptor obsec and teleport. I thought you could only use one per turn. Also he would have to have brought a teleported pack with him. What am I missing here?

I know the grey nights where designed to defeat the Drukhari in the story line. But dang is this really supposed to be this difficult for me to win or is he cheating?

Thank’s,

Slaneshes1stVictom

I don't know the exact rules, but for Stratagems being used multiple times, how that works is as follows:

You cannot use the same Stratagem multiple times in a single phase.

Interceptors have the keywords necessary to let the pm use teleport shunt strat; that lets them effectively deep strike anywhere more than 9" away from enemy units. So, if they did that then there isn't an issue

Objective secured ? No idea how they got that.

nosferatu1001 wrote:
Interceptors have the keywords necessary to let the pm use teleport shunt strat; that lets them effectively deep strike anywhere more than 9" away from enemy units. So, if they did that then there isn't an issue

Objective secured ? No idea how they got that.

Okay, so there is absolutely no units in the entire army that have both object secured and can teleport right? Even with a CP or with any upgraded items.

Slaneshes1stVictom wrote:

nosferatu1001 wrote:
Interceptors have the keywords necessary to let the pm use teleport shunt strat; that lets them effectively deep strike anywhere more than 9" away from enemy units. So, if they did that then there isn't an issue

Objective secured ? No idea how they got that.

Okay, so there is absolutely no units in the entire army that have both object secured and can teleport right? Even with a CP or with any upgraded items.

Best way to find out is to ask your opponent. He would be able to tell you the exact rules he used.

If he had a Grey Knights Character within 6 inches of the unit, and that Character had the "A Noble Death (Aura):" ability, then the unit could have Ob Sec.

If the warlord had the "Unyielding Anvil (Aura)" rule, and was close enough, some units get Ob Sec. that way as well.

Gate if infinity is a psychic power that allows any psyker GK unit (so every unit in the army except for tanks and flyers) to be removed from the battlefield and be set up anywhere on the table. Your opponent probably used that to teleport a strike squad, which has objective secured, and not an interceptor squad.

 DeathReaper wrote:

Slaneshes1stVictom wrote:

nosferatu1001 wrote:
Interceptors have the keywords necessary to let the pm use teleport shunt strat; that lets them effectively deep strike anywhere more than 9" away from enemy units. So, if they did that then there isn't an issue

Objective secured ? No idea how they got that.

Okay, so there is absolutely no units in the entire army that have both object secured and can teleport right? Even with a CP or with any upgraded items.

Best way to find out is to ask your opponent. He would be able to tell you the exact rules he used.

If he had a Grey Knights Character within 6 inches of the unit, and that Character had the "A Noble Death (Aura):" ability, then the unit could have Ob Sec.

If the warlord had the "Unyielding Anvil (Aura)" rule, and was close enough, some units get Ob Sec. that way as well.

Grand Master in Nemesis Dreadknight, was the only other model next to it. No warlords where next to it either.

It doesn’t have that aura does it? I can’t find it on Wapedia. Or in the codex.

Slaneshes1stVictom wrote:
Grand Master in Nemesis Dreadknight, was the only other model next to it. No warlords where next to it either.

It doesn’t have that aura does it? I can’t find it on Wapedia. Or in the codex.

The Grandmaster could have the Unyielding Anvil warlord trait, or it could have the A Noble Death vision of the augurium. Indeed, most lists run either, or both.

Note that any Character can be given a warlord trait, even those that aren't the warlord, via the Shield of Humanity stratagem.

 MinMax wrote:

Slaneshes1stVictom wrote:
Grand Master in Nemesis Dreadknight, was the only other model next to it. No warlords where next to it either.

It doesn’t have that aura does it? I can’t find it on Wapedia. Or in the codex.

The Grandmaster could have the Unyielding Anvil warlord trait, or it could have the A Noble Death vision of the augurium. Indeed, most lists run either, or both.

Note that any Character can be given a warlord trait, even those that aren't the warlord, via the Shield of Humanity stratagem.

That aura is only 6” though right?

During turn 1 they teleported to our flag.
Turn 2 we moved back to stop it.
There turn two the dreadnaut teleported back 9” away from us. It says teleport instead of move - teleport shunt. So then he wouldn’t have that aura. He would be out of range. Unless I’m missing something.

There are things that extend ranges of auras, maybe your opponent had something like that?

Best bet is to ask your opponent. He would be able to tell you the exact rules he used.

All I can say is rule #1 when your opponent does something or claims something you don't understand is to require them to walk you through the rules. That way you always know you are not being cheated and you learn for future reference. It is nearly impossible for us to tell you if he was doing it right without details that you don't have.

Did they use a psychic power or a stratagem? This is for the troops squad. You should know.

I guess that’s the reason they are so hard to beat as Drukhari. They have a counter on this army for almost everything I can throw at it. This game has made the grey nights players my rivals naturally - fable.