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 Just Tony wrote:
When did this turn from the "Balanced game" thread to the "Fragile models" thread?

Are you complaining that the most recent episode of "GW sucks" accidentally turned out to be helpful to someone?

 Just Tony wrote:
When did this turn from the "Balanced game" thread to the "Fragile models" thread?

Models always need "balance" inside the cases . Magnets are a solution.

 Blackie wrote:

 Just Tony wrote:
When did this turn from the "Balanced game" thread to the "Fragile models" thread?

Models always need "balance" inside the cases . Magnets are a solution.

Top heavy models are OP. They just fall once and it wipes out an entire squad. Nerf nao!

No they should literally be balanced out of the (storage) box. The fact you have to do anything at your end indicates magnetised boxes are a failure and anyone advocating them is a shill.

Karol wrote:
On top of that elite armies are not playable at 1500pts.

You're flat out wrong here.
The style of play you're used to may not work, but that's actually a positive as it makes you see the capabilities of your models in a different way.

They wouldn't create so much content for Combat Patrol and Incursion if a majority of the armies don't work.

Playing imperial knights with actual imperial knights in it at 1500 is not very fun, same with custodes. GW creates a lot of "content" for stuff people don't play or use. It is not very much in their favour to say that AoS and w40k is played world wide at a certain points size, which is not 500 or 1000 or evern 1500.


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 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Top heavy models are OP. They just fall once and it wipes out an entire squad. Nerf nao!

Well it is not fun to transports something like 5-6 drakes for a SCE army or 6 raiders for DE or multiple void weavers for harlis etc Plus GW had this idea that modern models should look cinematic and dynamic, creates certain problems for some units and at least one army in AoS.

 Blndmage wrote:

Karol wrote:
On top of that elite armies are not playable at 1500pts.

They wouldn't create so much content for Combat Patrol and Incursion if a majority of the armies don't work.

Um. Why wouldn't they? GW thinking something works doesn't mean it actually works.

Not while models are to be sold, and rules are to be stripped down. GW always had balance issues within their games, but you are just noticing it worse now because with the lack more in depth rules comes a lack of ability to balance.

On top of that, GW is first and foremost out to make money, meaning rules reflect the need to sell.

Karol wrote:
Playing imperial knights with actual imperial knights in it at 1500 is not very fun, same with custodes. GW creates a lot of "content" for stuff people don't play or use. It is not very much in their favour to say that AoS and w40k is played world wide at a certain points size, which is not 500 or 1000 or evern 1500.


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 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Top heavy models are OP. They just fall once and it wipes out an entire squad. Nerf nao!

Well it is not fun to transports something like 5-6 drakes for a SCE army or 6 raiders for DE or multiple void weavers for harlis etc Plus GW had this idea that modern models should look cinematic and dynamic, creates certain problems for some units and at least one army in AoS.

Oo don't you get like 1 Knight and 6-7 Armigers in 1500 points?
If anything I would imagine such an army would be more powerful in 1.5k then 2k because your opponent is less likely to have a critical mass of AT firepower.

Karol wrote:
It is not very much in their favour to say that AoS and w40k is played world wide at a certain points size, which is not 500 or 1000 or evern 1500.

You do know that there a huge Crusade following that plays 25PL ~500 points all the time, right? 1000 points is popular enough to be included in the tournament book.

Just because your local gamers won't play anything other than 2000 point Matched Play tournament games all the time (we have the problem here, I'm trying to make a small board for 25PL/500 point games).
Have you considered asking your local library if they have space you could use, a back table, a study room? That's what my old group did for years. We had to play quiet, roll dice on felt or something soft, but we played.

Hell's, we used to use any tables, and put boards across as bridges. Totally non standard, but, again, I got to play.

Something tells me that the store is the only "safe" place for them to play...period.