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Mr_Rose wrote: I see they merged the three Thanatar entries into one - could that be the sign of a single kit with options to make all three primary classes?
Did they sell enough thanatars to justify a plastic kit?
Since the only difference is the weapon loadout and unit composition, it would make sense to agglomerate the profiles tbh.
Maybe it'll be the same thing as with legion land raiders where you can add a single achillies among a squadron?
From the leaked playtest PDF, the Thanatar lost one of its classes. So a plastic kit with 2 guns and an extra arm/fist sprue does not seem totally improbable.
What?!? Which one?!? Cynis or Calix?
The Cynis has been removed (at least in this playtest PDF). Like HBMC said, most likely since they did not make a model for it.
"I have traveled trough the Realm of Death and brought back novelty pencils"
GamesWorkshop wrote: And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!
Oh, somewhere in this favored land the sun is shining bright;
the band is playing somewhere and somewhere hearts are light,and somewhere men are laughing, and somewhere children shout but there is no joy in Mudville — mighty Casey has struck out.
Mr_Rose wrote: I see they merged the three Thanatar entries into one - could that be the sign of a single kit with options to make all three primary classes?
Did they sell enough thanatars to justify a plastic kit?
Since the only difference is the weapon loadout and unit composition, it would make sense to agglomerate the profiles tbh.
Maybe it'll be the same thing as with legion land raiders where you can add a single achillies among a squadron?
From the leaked playtest PDF, the Thanatar lost one of its classes. So a plastic kit with 2 guns and an extra arm/fist sprue does not seem totally improbable.
What?!? Which one?!? Cynis or Calix?
The Cynis has been removed (at least in this playtest PDF). Like HBMC said, most likely since they did not make a model for it.
i will never forgive FW this indignity.
Spoiler:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-px27tzAtVwZpZ4ljopV2w "ashtrays and teacups do not count as cover"
"jack of all trades, master of none; certainly better than a master of one"
The Ordo Reductor - the guy's who make wonderful things like the Landraider Achillies, but can't use them in battle..
"I have traveled trough the Realm of Death and brought back novelty pencils"
GamesWorkshop wrote: And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!
Oh, somewhere in this favored land the sun is shining bright;
the band is playing somewhere and somewhere hearts are light,and somewhere men are laughing, and somewhere children shout but there is no joy in Mudville — mighty Casey has struck out.
I'm a little perturbed by the comment about them being released later this year. Considering that there are eighteen legions to get through, which poor sod is going to be waiting until the end of the year just for their upgrade kit?
I really thought GW might have managed to make sure this is all ready to go like uh... now? I'm already getting itchy feet waiting for the Mark IV to return, and drawing up plans for alternate summer projects if they're not in stock soon.
Eiríkr wrote: I'm a little perturbed by the comment about them being released later this year. Considering that there are eighteen legions to get through, which poor sod is going to be waiting until the end of the year just for their upgrade kit?
Oh, easy answer. I am.
The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins.
Can't wait to see the Word Bearers and Night Lords. It's a shame they're dragging this out though. There are so many legions and it's not like its a guarantee they'll reveal more upgrade sprues next week.
Does anyone have that old HH "leak" where they listed off the upgrade sprues? It was only a handful of legions and it would be interesting to see if the ones so far match up
Can't help but feel the GW approach of dropping a box set and then not having the extra stuff ready for months isn't a great way of running things. You can't really capitalise on the initial excitement of the big release if you have pretty much nothing to sell people after that. Doesn't seem a great way of gaining new players and keeping them
BigOscar wrote: Can't help but feel the GW approach of dropping a box set and then not having the extra stuff ready for months isn't a great way of running things. You can't really capitalise on the initial excitement of the big release if you have pretty much nothing to sell people after that. Doesn't seem a great way of gaining new players and keeping them
At least heads and shoulders are very easy to leave off models to add later.
I think he is trying to strike a balance between releasing things for hh and destroying people's budgets. 40k just got the csm book, sigmar got a couple books and vanguard boxes, necromunda got the cargo truck and squats. Paints are going for preorder this week. I can see another Heresy wave after that, say the spartan and contemptor on their own with the rest of the heavy weapon sets and maybe the sicaran.
Thanks! You have some mighty conversion work in your gallery, sir. Particularly the mk5 with additional panels - nice nod to other imperial vehicle design like the uparmoured sentinel.
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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-px27tzAtVwZpZ4ljopV2w "ashtrays and teacups do not count as cover"
"jack of all trades, master of none; certainly better than a master of one"
The Ordo Reductor - the guy's who make wonderful things like the Landraider Achillies, but can't use them in battle..
BigOscar wrote: Can't help but feel the GW approach of dropping a box set and then not having the extra stuff ready for months isn't a great way of running things. You can't really capitalise on the initial excitement of the big release if you have pretty much nothing to sell people after that. Doesn't seem a great way of gaining new players and keeping them
At least heads and shoulders are very easy to leave off models to add later.
I think he is trying to strike a balance between releasing things for hh and destroying people's budgets. 40k just got the csm book, sigmar got a couple books and vanguard boxes, necromunda got the cargo truck and squats. Paints are going for preorder this week. I can see another Heresy wave after that, say the spartan and contemptor on their own with the rest of the heavy weapon sets and maybe the sicaran.
Expecting people to not put heads on their models for a few months in a new game you want them to get excited about playing seems like a poor strategy though tbh.
I get the argument for too much at once, but if you are essentially trying to kickstart interest in a new game(sort of new anyway) then you really need to grab people's attention and them let them use that initial excitement to carry on getting invested. The box set has grabbed people's attention, but there is nothing there to capitalise on that initial excitement. By the time enough stuff to have an interesting army is released, most of these starter boxes will be gathering dust in people's cupboards
BigOscar wrote: Can't help but feel the GW approach of dropping a box set and then not having the extra stuff ready for months isn't a great way of running things. You can't really capitalise on the initial excitement of the big release if you have pretty much nothing to sell people after that. Doesn't seem a great way of gaining new players and keeping them
At least heads and shoulders are very easy to leave off models to add later.
I think he is trying to strike a balance between releasing things for hh and destroying people's budgets. 40k just got the csm book, sigmar got a couple books and vanguard boxes, necromunda got the cargo truck and squats. Paints are going for preorder this week. I can see another Heresy wave after that, say the spartan and contemptor on their own with the rest of the heavy weapon sets and maybe the sicaran.
Expecting people to not put heads on their models for a few months in a new game you want them to get excited about playing seems like a poor strategy though tbh.
I get the argument for too much at once, but if you are essentially trying to kickstart interest in a new game(sort of new anyway) then you really need to grab people's attention and them let them use that initial excitement to carry on getting invested. The box set has grabbed people's attention, but there is nothing there to capitalise on that initial excitement. By the time enough stuff to have an interesting army is released, most of these starter boxes will be gathering dust in people's cupboards
Exactly my problem, I am waiting for the multipart contemptor to get those decorated front-plates so can't build that yet and I also have to wait for the other two heavy weapon sets to build all my tacticals
Seeing people posting their several hundred dollar hauls for HH v2. I'd say GW successfully captured attention without needing everything released all at once.
Eiríkr wrote: I'm a little perturbed by the comment about them being released later this year. Considering that there are eighteen legions to get through, which poor sod is going to be waiting until the end of the year just for their upgrade kit?
I really thought GW might have managed to make sure this is all ready to go like uh... now? I'm already getting itchy feet waiting for the Mark IV to return, and drawing up plans for alternate summer projects if they're not in stock soon.
Four legion shoulder pads per month. So... more than four months of waiting time until everybody has received their goods. It´s pretty bad to be honest.
Eiríkr wrote: I'm a little perturbed by the comment about them being released later this year. Considering that there are eighteen legions to get through, which poor sod is going to be waiting until the end of the year just for their upgrade kit?
I really thought GW might have managed to make sure this is all ready to go like uh... now? I'm already getting itchy feet waiting for the Mark IV to return, and drawing up plans for alternate summer projects if they're not in stock soon.
Four legion shoulder pads per month. So... more than four months of waiting time until everybody has received their goods. It´s pretty bad to be honest.
Considering how slow 30k stuff released in the past, this is speed-of-light.
These also aren't necessary for anyone to start playing. I personally prefer transfers, because they're easier to apply than painting molded shoulder pads.
Immaculate! These are the first upgrade heads for the new MKVI kit which actually look like they honour the original design language of the corvus armour! Someone gets it. These are making me legion jealous, what a bunch of great looking helms.
Can't wait to see these on the actual models!
"The larger point though, is that as players, we have more control over what the game looks and feels like than most of us are willing to use in order to solve our own problems"
BrotherGecko wrote: Wait are not the helmets just the current ones repackaged for 10 man squads? They are still resin. Just buy the current unrebox ones.
This was my thought as well. I don't think any of this stuff is new, as far as I can tell. FW is currently selling lots of these kinds of upgrade kits.
BrotherGecko wrote: Wait are not the helmets just the current ones repackaged for 10 man squads? They are still resin. Just buy the current unrebox ones.
Not the same, but one of the originals is similar to two of the new ones:
The new ones are more similar to the legion metal head, and all three are more clearly modified Mk VIs.
Which is funny, because in that regard they are the best so far, and IWs kinda hate the mark
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Eiríkr wrote: I'm a little perturbed by the comment about them being released later this year. Considering that there are eighteen legions to get through, which poor sod is going to be waiting until the end of the year just for their upgrade kit?
Oh, easy answer. I am.
Same. I may convert/kitbash one squad with some leftover MkIII, though, to get a shattered legion look.
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