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John D Law wrote:
The way they keep moving backward on the power armors maybe we will eventually get a unification wars box set of mark 2’s vs Thunder Warriors! 😉

Cashmoney

Im really glad we have this talk about different PA marks.
I feel it have not been talked about before, and it really bring something new and refreshing to this news thread.

 Fayric wrote:
Im really glad we have this talk about different PA marks.
I feel it have not been talked about before, and it really bring something new and refreshing to this news thread.

But will they be resin?

 tauist wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 tauist wrote:

 Geifer wrote:
I suspect the grooves are fine at actual model size, especially for painters who don't subscribe to the two thin coats mantra. My issue with this style of upgrade is more that the Mk.VI Marines are not just generic but overall so bland that when you introduce a massive amount of detail on at most two upgrade parts that is a stylistic departure from the rest of the model, the model is going to look disjointed. That's the impression I'm getting from the example model, even after the decals on the legs.

Exactly this! I've always thought a MKVI armour is all about that tacticool minimalism. Overly busy looking details look much better with MKII, MKIII & MKV IMO

Based on Rogue Trader, I think overly busy details on MkVI is par for the course.

Agree to disagree, unless you are referring to painted on details or Kevin O Neill influenced edgy texts painted on the armour.

I was yes.


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I see a Cerberus, Jetbikes and Exodus (or a Saboteur)...

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 tauist wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 tauist wrote:

 Geifer wrote:
I suspect the grooves are fine at actual model size, especially for painters who don't subscribe to the two thin coats mantra. My issue with this style of upgrade is more that the Mk.VI Marines are not just generic but overall so bland that when you introduce a massive amount of detail on at most two upgrade parts that is a stylistic departure from the rest of the model, the model is going to look disjointed. That's the impression I'm getting from the example model, even after the decals on the legs.

Exactly this! I've always thought a MKVI armour is all about that tacticool minimalism. Overly busy looking details look much better with MKII, MKIII & MKV IMO

Based on Rogue Trader, I think overly busy details on MkVI is par for the course.

Agree to disagree, unless you are referring to painted on details or Kevin O Neill influenced edgy texts painted on the armour.

I was yes.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
2023 teaser now live: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/12/29/looking-ahead-to-2023-warhammer-the-horus-heresy/

Looks like plastic jetbikes are in, and the solution to some rumour engine pics again in that assassin-y looking silhouette.

Looks like non-Mark VI armor on the jetbike?

Interestingly, that means there should be a plastic assassin coming.

Was that a Vigilor at the end?

 Kanluwen wrote:
Interestingly, that means there should be a plastic assassin coming.

Was that a Vigilor at the end?

I don't think that it necessarily implies plastic, Horus Ascendant was also presented in the video and is cast in resin.

Ok, definitely a Cerberus and jetbikes. And, some kind of Librarian, a Vigilator, and an Assasin?

 Gadzilla666 wrote:
Ok, definitely a Cerberus and jetbikes. And, some kind of Librarian, a Vigilator, and an Assasin?

The Assassin may specifically be the mutated and possessed 'Black Pariah' Spear

Interesting. I see a Cerberus, some kind of Assassin (though it looks a bit chaosy with all that spikes and the pronounced spine), an Esoterist in Mk6 armour (or maybe a special character?), a Vigilator (maybe an Alpha Legion/Raven Guard Praetor?), and a Jetbike but with MkVI armour (you can notice the beakie helmet at a certain angle).

The Vigilator could also be an Alpha legion Exodus, the helmet looks Alpha legion. The Exodus is one of the few chapter specific units in the books without a resin model.
But could still be a plastic dual kit

Vigilator, clearly, a type of librarian?
Pose is pretty close aswell , maybe a centurion kit ala the old much vaunted terminator lord/sorcerer?

Probably Exodus for the final figure seeing as it's one of the few characters in the current Liber books to not have a mini yet have rules. The Vigilator already has a FW model and I'd be surprised to see plastics of those.
I think peeps need to keep in mind that FW is still going to be releasing HH stuff and that not everything will be plastic.

 stahly wrote:
Interesting. I see a Cerberus, some kind of Assassin (though it looks a bit chaosy with all that spikes and the pronounced spine), an Esoterist in Mk6 armour (or maybe a special character?), a Vigilator (maybe an Alpha Legion/Raven Guard Praetor?), and a Jetbike but with MkVI armour (you can notice the beakie helmet at a certain angle).

When they did the Vanus and Adamus clade assassins for the Imperial fraction, they hinted/ outright stated that there'd be one clade that defected to the Traitors, so i guess it's probably one of them. The head-cables have Culexus vibes, while the mutated claw is somewhat aping the Eversor, so maybe it's a mishmash of other temples' tricks or something.

We already have a Vigilator:
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Legion-Vigilator-2018

That's Exodus, I'm sure of it

Tsagualsa wrote:

I don't think that it necessarily implies plastic, Horus Ascendant was also presented in the video and is cast in resin.

Horus Ascendant was presented as part of the "things we know are coming" section.

The assassin being from Rumour Engines points towards plastic. I'd be shocked if any of the stuff previewed there are resin.

Now that they've covered the Spartan variants, I wonder if we're going to get the Sicaran ones in plastic next? There aren't that many resin marine tank chassis left in the HH range, it's down to the Sabre and the Arquitor.

If they made plastic Sabres and Arquitors I'd die!

 Kanluwen wrote:
The assassin being from Rumour Engines points towards plastic. I'd be shocked if any of the stuff previewed there are resin.

Then you'd be wrong like always because there were multiple resin models in RE. This, for one:

Hm, seven items of which at least four are resin. Only three plastics for the year seems unlikely if the Deimos rhino being constantly sold out is a valid indicator of popularity so there’s definitely still hope for some actual assault marines in MkVI - skipped here either because they aren’t Q4/Q1 or because someone thought they wouldn’t be “exciting” enough.

 Irbis wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
The assassin being from Rumour Engines points towards plastic. I'd be shocked if any of the stuff previewed there are resin.

Then you'd be wrong like always because there were multiple resin models in RE.

Your example isn't even a Rumour Engine, mate.

I'll wait for you to have a resin model in the Rumour Engine, which is a specific feature that GW runs every Tuesday. Pitchside Report, which previewed both Gretchen and Skrull, was its own thing.

This, for one:

Spoiler:

Pitchside Report was not considered Rumor Engine, even by Warboss Kurgan whose images you linked to and even classified them as "not rumor engines".

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Hm, seven items of which at least four are resin. Only three plastics for the year seems unlikely if the Deimos rhino being constantly sold out is a valid indicator of popularity so there’s definitely still hope for some actual assault marines in MkVI - skipped here either because they aren’t Q4/Q1 or because someone thought they wouldn’t be “exciting” enough.

Something to consider is that there have been multiple, repeated rumors of "starter sets" that are not the $299 price tag of the Age of Darkness starter.

We could be seeing contents intended for that.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Something to consider is that there have been multiple, repeated rumors of "starter sets" that are not the $299 price tag of the Age of Darkness starter.

We could be seeing contents intended for that.

Would this be the starter sets where the cheapest one had just 20 Marines and is therefore not actually usable as a starter set because it doesn't even fulfill the minimum requirements for a basic force org?

As for stuff in the video being either plastic or resin, FW still exists and makes stuff for AoD. In fact, it mostly makes characters and Legion-specific units, and the majority of models in this teaser seem to fall within at least the character category.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Your example isn't even a Rumour Engine, mate.

I'll wait for you to have a resin model in the Rumour Engine, which is a specific feature that GW runs every Tuesday. Pitchside Report, which previewed both Gretchen and Skrull, was its own thing.
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Rumor engine from 2017 had the Goblin Chainsaw for Blood Bowl, which comes in Forgeworld resin:

https://warbosskurgan.blogspot.com/p/rumour-engines.html#2017-05-03

So 2017 was the last time...yeah, still thinking plastic.

Why? Because someone said it might be from the rumour engine? None of the other Assassins are plastic that have been released for HH.
You're saying you think it's going to be plastic because you think it will be plastic.

 Gert wrote:
Why? Because someone said it might be from the rumour engine? None of the other Assassins are plastic that have been released for HH.

And out of the other Assassins, how many are for Traitor forces?

Seeing as the Big Four(Vindicare, Culexus, Eversor, and Callidus) are already in plastic--a single plastic assassin for Traitors wouldn't be too crazy.

You're saying you think it's going to be plastic because you think it will be plastic.

Yes, that's how things work.

If you want a better explanation:
There is nothing stopping them from giving you scenarios with modified FOCs or the like as a "starter" mechanism. Having an "assassination run" style setup would not be a bad thing.

 Kanluwen wrote:
And out of the other Assassins, how many are for Traitor forces?

That has literally zero influence on product material. Could you point me to any other Traitor specific units that are plastic purely because they are Traitor? No? Wonder why that is.

Yes, that's how things work.

Generally, people can come up with reasoning and examples when questioned on their beliefs. Not you though.

If you want a better explanation:
There is nothing stopping them from giving you scenarios with modified FOCs or the like as a "starter" mechanism.

Then they aren't starter sets for HH, but for a different game. So yeah gonna be just as doubtful as I was when that silly rumour showed up the first time.

Please.... GW.... can we at least get a release season for the Milita/Daemons PDFs? Please? It's been nearly 7 months now.