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So, with the Warcom picture showing the new Angron model, who wants to guess what Primarch level 9th edition stupidity will he have?

So far it looks like he has two Weapons, and Axe and a Sword(ish). So I'm guessing two attack profiles (AT and Sweep)

For profile, I'm guessing Morty as a baseline, with more on the offense side, and half as good defense.

Buffs to Demons within X inches, "Extra attacks for Khornate Demons" or some such.

Has wings, so Fly obviously.

they have been playign with the ignore invunerable saves so my guess is that. I also speculate the old if you wound him he gets to move x inches towards the firing unit

I imagine he'll be cartoonishly deadly in melee on paper once he actually gets the charge but without having any mechanism in particular to help him get the charge and as such will be completely useless.

 G00fySmiley wrote:
they have been playign with the ignore invunerable saves so my guess is that. I also speculate the old if you wound him he gets to move x inches towards the firing unit

Ooooo! That sounds like a party. He's gonna be a slightly more baddassed version of Be'lakor with a special Skulls for the Skull Throne rule that gives him bonuses for kills against characters or something silly.

He will ignore invulns, but not ignore the ignore ignore invulns.

He will *have* the ignore ignore invulns.

He will have a damage cap that ignores ignore damage cap weapons.

He will have the Supreme Cmdr keyword to fit on his datasheet, making him ineligible to be run in a Supreme Commander Detachment.

He will have more special rules than anyone can possibly remember easily, and people will be berated on the internet for being noobs or cheating when they get them wrong.

He will have options like "may take whip and brass armor of Khorne, if he does this he may swap the brass armor of Khorne for some sharp sticks... a model armed with sharp sticks may swap it's left arm for a squirrel. A model armed with a squirrel and sharp sticks may not benefit from the Squirrelless Terror rule but instead gains ignore ignore ignore invulns."

He will also get his save against mortal wounds, preparing for the Grey Knights codex where they get mortal mortal wounds that ignore saves models get against mortal wounds.

He'll probably be an donkey-cave!!!!

Given he can't be a psyker, he's either going to be a chunk cheaper than the other 2 or so deadly it's not even funny to the point balancing him is nigh impossible.

FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
Buffs to Demons within X inches, "Extra attacks for Khornate Demons" or some such.

...why would the WORLD EATERS guy be buffing KHORNE DAEMONS? It's not like Mortarion does anything for NURGLE DAEMONS aside from not hurt them when he explodes like a particularly ripe boil.

Angryon is just going to be terribly dull.

Can't lose more then X wounds per phase and a special anti MW save.

Attacks first and Every time Angron kills a model he can start his fight phase again with all his attacks

The axe and sword are cleverly disguised guns. He'll be the supreme shooting model.

So, with the Warcom picture showing the new Angron model, who wants to guess what Primarch level 9th edition stupidity will he have?

Easy peasy: not as good as Archaeon in melee (and little to no shooting (maybe flame breath or something) and no psychic), but he'll be faster and have fly. Slightly better than a bloodthirster, but in the majority of fights it won't make a huge difference. In duels with other combat monsters he'll be pretty good but not the best.

His main reason for in an army list will be a hard hitter than can move reasonably fast, (which imo makes him a bit better than Archaeon or Roboute). In terms of combat, not utility buffs- in terms of tactics he will be boring. Move closer, hit things.

Best guess:

Ignores invulnerable saves

Ignores incoming MW

+1 attack for all Khorne marked units in 12 inches

Ignores the effects of psychic powers on a 2+ unmodified

Heralds the return of instant death when attacking with Gorefather - wound a model with half or less toughness against weapon strength and 'blap' you are gone. Rule will be called "Dude, do you even lift?"

Probably a baked in charge / consolidation gimmick as well.

Oh...as Unit said...option to take a squirrel, a very very angry daemonic squirrel. Grants feel no pain.

I can definately see him going 2 weapon style with attacks.

7 base attacks and 4 additional swings with his axe.

Sword can sweep or cleave. Cleave ignores invuns.

Axe has flat 5 damage x2 str.

Sword puts him at 12 strength and axe is 16.

When he gets to half health he gains +1d on all his attacks and only takes half damage from attacks. When he gets to 1/4th health he becomes a very angry jabba the hutt.

I'm almost certain he will get more dangerous the lower HP he gets, and he'll likely have a damage per phase cap.

Probably be able to shrug mortal wounds on 4+

Could see him getting a regain wounds ability upon killing a model or unit.

I did like the idea of him getting to move if someone shoots him with ranged weapons.

Really they need to make it so that you kinda have to kill him, but you also are punished for shooting him. He'll only be melee so something like that will be needed to make him worth playing.

Big, red, and beat sticky.

 Bobthehero wrote:
The axe and sword are cleverly disguised guns. He'll be the supreme shooting model.

Infinite throwing axe?

A bloodthirster, he will be like a bloodthirster.

 Mr Nobody wrote:

 Bobthehero wrote:
The axe and sword are cleverly disguised guns. He'll be the supreme shooting model.

Infinite throwing axe?

Nope. Hidden railgun in the hilt. It is the WILD SPECULATION thread, after all.

So will he be able to summon? What will he cost in points? What will his theoretical damage max out at? How many Morty's can he kill? How many Mortys will it take to kill him?

THEORY CRAFT FOOLS!

He will on average be able to do between 10-20MWs per Fight Phase, on top of his average 60 wounds from all his 5 slam attacks: S16 AP5 2d6damage attacks. Of his 10 S8 AP3 4damage Swipe attacks that give an extra 2 hits per normal hit.

He will need at least 4 8th Edition IH Relic Contemptor Dreads, or 3 8th Edition Castellans. to effectively drop him in 9th.

Clearly he will get angrier and angrier as the game goes on. Eventually he will reach breaking point and flip the table, destroying everything in the process!

He will then call the opponent a sore loser!

JakeSiren wrote:
Clearly he will get angrier and angrier as the game goes on. Eventually he will reach breaking point and flip the table, destroying everything in the process!

He will then call the opponent a sore loser!

It's still better than the Death Strike.

Quasistellar wrote:
I'm almost certain he will get more dangerous the lower HP he gets,

My favourite AOS unit is Skarbrand for that reason He's one guy in game you most definitely don't want to hurt.

Though even I admit in Skarbrand case effect is wee bit too much...Though partially to be blamed on combo buffs. Every attack you can give him will end up 8(minimum) or 16 MW when he's at full rage and then ability to fight twice(these abilities always break game)...40+ MW in one combat phase and then the non-MW weapon isn't even too unreasonable expectation...

He will be able to make 12" heroic interventions, pile-in and consolidate moves.

He'll get the brutal but kunnin' warlord trait as bespoke rule, because great ork rules always get put on a marine characters.

His weapons will have different profiles, and the sword will have two profiles. Despite that, you will always use the same one profile for all his attacks because it is vastly batter than all others.

He can deny the witch by rolling charge rolls against any psyker who casts a power within 12".

Just like every chapter master/primarch, he will have the ability to select a CORE WORLD EATER unit, but on a roll of 1 instead of re-rolls, they get a punch in the face.

When he consolidates into a unit he hasn't fought yet, he is allowed to fight again, the rule will be called "Power of the Third".

He will come with a set of 200 Skulls that push-fit assemble into a throne. You add one skull to the throne for every skull a killed model has.

If you have a super-heavy detachment with Magnus, Mortarion and Angron in it, at the beginning of the command phase you can spent 5CP and sacrifice all three of them to summon the clone of the clone of Horus and it gains haste and trample until the end of turn.

 Jidmah wrote:
He will be able to make 12" heroic interventions, pile-in and consolidate moves.

He'll get the brutal but kunnin' warlord trait as bespoke rule, because great ork rules always get put on a marine characters.

His weapons will have different profiles, and the sword will have two profiles. Despite that, you will always use the same one profile for all his attacks because it is vastly batter than all others.

He can deny the witch by rolling charge rolls against any psyker who casts a power within 12".

Just like every chapter master/primarch, he will have the ability to select a CORE WORLD EATER unit, but on a roll of 1 instead of re-rolls, they get a punch in the face.

When he consolidates into a unit he hasn't fought yet, he is allowed to fight again, the rule will be called "Power of the Third".

He will come with a set of 200 Skulls that push-fit assemble into a throne. You add one skull to the throne for every skull a killed model has.

If you have a super-heavy detachment with Magnus, Mortarion and Angron in it, at the beginning of the command phase you can spent 5CP and sacrifice all three of them to summon the clone of the clone of Horus and it gains haste and trample until the end of turn.

Protection from White?

When deploying him on the table you point your finger at your opponent while declaring a challenge at this point your opponent loses unless he can beat you in an arm wrestling match. You may declare a challenge at the start of every turn. Every turn after the first you get to pick who the opposing player arm wrestles. If they lose they automatically lose the game of 40k.

8 attacks at S8, AP-2 4DMG. 6's ignore invulns. All Psychers within 18 inches auto peril when they try to cast spells and get no saves against the perils.

He will cost 888 points and can only be fielded if your armies model count is divisible by 8.

 Togusa wrote:
8 attacks at S8, AP-2 4DMG. 6's ignore invulns. All Psychers within 18 inches auto peril when they try to cast spells and get no saves against the perils.

He will cost 888 points and can only be fielded if your armies model count is divisible by 8.

Brilliant. Except his damage should be 8.

FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:

 Togusa wrote:
8 attacks at S8, AP-2 4DMG. 6's ignore invulns. All Psychers within 18 inches auto peril when they try to cast spells and get no saves against the perils.

He will cost 888 points and can only be fielded if your armies model count is divisible by 8.

Brilliant. Except his damage should be 8.

I actually thought about that, but I didn't want to meme it too much, although AP 2 and 4DMG = 8 if multiplied!

Should we include an ability where he lifts titans?