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Hi,
I'm kitting out my Praetor for my new Iron Warriors legion. I've got both a normal armour and cataphractii praetor. However, I don't see the value in a cataphractii onee as they have less options and cost 15 points more even though it can't do sweeping advance.

Should I just kitbash the cataphractii one into another terminaor or is there something I've missed?

having a 4++ is a pretty big deal. Thats a 50% chance to shrug off an attack, vs a 5++ which is a 66% chance to fail.

 Backspacehacker wrote:
having a 4++ is a pretty big deal. Thats a 50% chance to shrug off an attack, vs a 5++ which is a 66% chance to fail.

They already have a 4++ with the Iron Halo though?

Terminators don't have the Halo.

Flashie08 wrote:
Hi,
I'm kitting out my Praetor for my new Iron Warriors legion. I've got both a normal armour and cataphractii praetor. However, I don't see the value in a cataphractii onee as they have less options and cost 15 points more even though it can't do sweeping advance.

Should I just kitbash the cataphractii one into another terminaor or is there something I've missed?

Heresy isn't really about what is optimal. It's about telling stories and playing fantastic parts of the past of the Warhammer universe. You should do with your models what you like, and not what takes the rules and bends them until they almost break.

Flashie08 wrote:

 Backspacehacker wrote:
having a 4++ is a pretty big deal. Thats a 50% chance to shrug off an attack, vs a 5++ which is a 66% chance to fail.

They already have a 4++ with the Iron Halo though?

Not in terminator armor another thing to consider is:
terminator armor you get reroll able saves against blast and templates.
You get the ability to get deep strikes as its not common in regular praetors
extra wound
Relentless

Reroll saves against blast and an extra wound. The reroll against blast is pretty nifty considering heresy has a lot of super strong pie plates. Relentless is also good if it’s still squad wide from one model. It’d allow you to lug heavy weapons around and shoot at full bs.

I consistently see people saying that terminator armor gives access to deep strike… but I haven’t seen that in any of the rules short of some legion specific (Sons of Horus). Can someone direct me to where it states that terminator armor confers deep strike?

 Togusa wrote:

Flashie08 wrote:
Hi,
I'm kitting out my Praetor for my new Iron Warriors legion. I've got both a normal armour and cataphractii praetor. However, I don't see the value in a cataphractii onee as they have less options and cost 15 points more even though it can't do sweeping advance.

Should I just kitbash the cataphractii one into another terminaor or is there something I've missed?

Heresy isn't really about what is optimal. It's about telling stories and playing fantastic parts of the past of the Warhammer universe. You should do with your models what you like, and not what takes the rules and bends them until they almost break.

Certainly! THat's the reason for playing it. I've got 3 Praetor models (2 from the AoD box, 1 terminator) so trying to work out what to do with the others. May customise the main praetor into a warsmith and have the other two as centurions

 morganfreeman wrote:
Reroll saves against blast and an extra wound. The reroll against blast is pretty nifty considering heresy has a lot of super strong pie plates. Relentless is also good if it’s still squad wide from one model. It’d allow you to lug heavy weapons around and shoot at full bs.

I consistently see people saying that terminator armor gives access to deep strike… but I haven’t seen that in any of the rules short of some legion specific (Sons of Horus). Can someone direct me to where it states that terminator armor confers deep strike?

You are thinking of slow and purposeful. Relentless is model based.

Flashie08 wrote:

 Togusa wrote:

Flashie08 wrote:
Hi,
I'm kitting out my Praetor for my new Iron Warriors legion. I've got both a normal armour and cataphractii praetor. However, I don't see the value in a cataphractii onee as they have less options and cost 15 points more even though it can't do sweeping advance.

Should I just kitbash the cataphractii one into another terminaor or is there something I've missed?

Heresy isn't really about what is optimal. It's about telling stories and playing fantastic parts of the past of the Warhammer universe. You should do with your models what you like, and not what takes the rules and bends them until they almost break.

Certainly! THat's the reason for playing it. I've got 3 Praetor models (2 from the AoD box, 1 terminator) so trying to work out what to do with the others. May customise the main praetor into a warsmith and have the other two as centurions

A warsmith conversion would be quite good! Can't wait to see what you do with it.

 morganfreeman wrote:
Reroll saves against blast and an extra wound. The reroll against blast is pretty nifty considering heresy has a lot of super strong pie plates. Relentless is also good if it’s still squad wide from one model. It’d allow you to lug heavy weapons around and shoot at full bs.

I consistently see people saying that terminator armor gives access to deep strike… but I haven’t seen that in any of the rules short of some legion specific (Sons of Horus). Can someone direct me to where it states that terminator armor confers deep strike?

It doesn't give Deep Strike, Sons of Horus gain it through a Rite and only on Justaerin. Night Lords gain it via Sevatar's Warlord Trait, and its baked in on Contekar and Atramentar. Then the Imperial Fists can just buy it as an upgrade.

 Togusa wrote:

Flashie08 wrote:

 Togusa wrote:

Flashie08 wrote:
Hi,
I'm kitting out my Praetor for my new Iron Warriors legion. I've got both a normal armour and cataphractii praetor. However, I don't see the value in a cataphractii onee as they have less options and cost 15 points more even though it can't do sweeping advance.

Should I just kitbash the cataphractii one into another terminaor or is there something I've missed?

Heresy isn't really about what is optimal. It's about telling stories and playing fantastic parts of the past of the Warhammer universe. You should do with your models what you like, and not what takes the rules and bends them until they almost break.

Certainly! THat's the reason for playing it. I've got 3 Praetor models (2 from the AoD box, 1 terminator) so trying to work out what to do with the others. May customise the main praetor into a warsmith and have the other two as centurions

A warsmith conversion would be quite good! Can't wait to see what you do with it.

An old Macrotek Enginseer may be the one to pay the price as I nick his servo arm...

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