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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/01 07:40:09
Subject: Painting and modelling: weird hang-ups, quirks,rituals and approaches
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Going with the painting theme consuming the boards, I've had a bit of a think as to how I approach it snd just wondering if I'm a bit of a weirdo in my approach or if others have their own approaches.*
when to comes to painting and modelling, what are your weird quirks? To those that might not paint or model yourselves, what do you see, or like to see in other folks' armies? If you could click your fingers and have a 'magically painted army', what quirks would you insist on displaying?
* Are there paints and bits you absolutely refuse to use or work with? (Are there 'elitists' who refuses to work with purple or blue for example? I jest, by the way)
* Do you paint 'uniformly' or do you 'pick out' the seegeants/officers/elites with some special embellishment or variation on the colour scheme eg red helmet?
*are there poses put there you detest and that model just gets binned or used as spare parts?
* Does every model get a million colours with every pouch and thing painted? Or just a base coat, contrast and some details picked out?
* do you paint/undercoat on the sprue or half assemble and then do it?
For me, I have various necromunda gangs, pseudo-'dark ages' historical armies (using lotr minis), warmachine armies, and for 40k, small forces of Raptors, Minotaurs (love the badab war) and some death guard.
My weird quirks:
* for my Raptors, and astartes I loathe embellishments on armour. Hatehatehate them. These guys are no nonsense pragmatists. 'Real' marines.
I model them all in the 'tacti-cool' manner with loads of pouches, grenades, spare magazines etc.
Theyre all painted that boring military green and highlighted.
rank is barely recognised. Sergeants get the helmet with the tiny skull and higher ranks get the shoulder pad with the tiny skull. Any other bit with any kind of ornamentation or decoration is simply not used. I'm even more extreme with my Death guard and actively avoid as much of the 'cartoony' bits that I can - I want them to look like marines.
For my gangs and historicals, no two models are painted the same. They didn't really have 'uniforms' back then so all my historical doods have different cloaks, robes and other clothing. The unifying element is the shield designs- either green and white for my 'greenshields' clan or red and white for my 'redshields' clan. And yes the red, green and white will be done in differing patterns. With my gangers, it's the sane thing. As an example, My orlock have a common 'patch' like a biker gangs jacket; but other than that nothing is consistent, and deliberately so. Trousers, tops etc will be unique for each model - armour is typically boring plain 'metal' and I leave it there.
On the 'metal' armour I've learned recently I prefer leaving metal as metallic and not 'painting' the metal. In wmh, you often see khadoran troops with red metal armour* and grey cloth, with cynar its blue armour and brown or grey cloth. I paint the metal as metal and psint the cloth using the factions/armies 'signature' colour instead.
So posters of dakka - in an attempt to celebrate the 'hands-on' aspect of the models we use, and to celebrste our own uniqueness/weirdness, I've shown mine please show me yours. :p
*or in my case green since I've always painted the alternative khadoran 5th border legion. I keep the ree just for small accents.
**This is not meant to pick a side on painting or not painting by the way; it's more about the actual practicalities and approaches.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/01 08:46:19
Subject: Re:Painting and modelling: weird hang-ups, quirks,rituals and approaches
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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I feel I have a few quirks, such as undercoating everything in black first, even stuff destined to be light colours. I feel this is a hangup from the era of GW I learned to paint it, where everything was undercoated white, so I followed suit- spraying (well, my dad) those first starter box marines white, even though they were going to end up with black armour. As I mentioned in one of the other threads, a kind of side effect of this is I absolutely loathe panting white and yellow. I'll go for nice dirty versions of those colours, but if I want to do a clean one I have to seriously adapt my normal Blanche-esq. style. This was one of the reasons myself and a friend (who has a bit of a similar style) backed into Relic Knights when their KS appeared (yeah...  ). The models were such a departure from our usual styles that painting them seemed like a real treat to just have an explosion of bright colours everywhere. I'll paint fairly uniformally, but also depending on the army it can get modified a bit, such as my Mercs in WMH, who are quite not uniform but share a few common colours of dark green and silver to tie them together with cohesive bases. Though what usually inspires me to do an army sometimes is a colour scheme I have not used, not used recently or something that looks cool from pop culture. I painted up a bunch of Koralon for Void that quite clearly have the G1 Devastator and/or Skorponok scheme going on. My Tau accidentally fell into this as they are painted to look like Iron Man. I do say accidentally as it totally was. I was painting them and the red was already done and was painting the silver parts when a trailer for Iron Man 2 came on the telly. Cue me looking up and down and going you know what? All these guys need is a bit of gold. I try majorly to avoid studio schemes as I want my models to stand out a bit. My Khador for example have the studio scheme reversed, with Khaki/brown as a main colour and red and gold as complimentary colours. I love experimenting with various paints and stuff that aren't intended for minis. Is that some glow in the dark fabric paint? Wonder what would happen if I painted some ghosts with it? Some glitter discs there? They'll make some treasure piles really look amazing. Recently used some white ink to make the Malifaux Nothing Beast and its smaller beasties look like a negative image.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/01 08:58:17
Subject: Re:Painting and modelling: weird hang-ups, quirks,rituals and approaches
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I had a bad habit of falling hard for p3 'traitor green', 'hammerfall khaki' and 'bloodstone'.
Painted my khador (fifth border legion) with traitor green...
Also painted my ariadna in this scheme....
And a hundred off kasrkin...
And my Raptors are also traitor green....
And so.e historicals....
Yeah so moved house put everything in 2 display cabinets. Everything looked the same... a whole bunch of my stuff then got stripped and added to the repainting line, haha - it was worth it though!
Yeah it kinda fixed me into focusing on different paints and paint schemes to the point that every force should be unique.
My kasrkin will keep khaki/green. My Raptors are green/greatcoat grey while my khador are green, metal armour, grey trim, brown boots,red accents (so sufficiently different they get away with it). My ariadna went to the desert. :p and my newest marines then got recruited by the Minotaurs, not the Raptors.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/01 09:09:35
Subject: Re:Painting and modelling: weird hang-ups, quirks,rituals and approaches
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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I have an Imperial Guard army that started as Tallarn and picked up a second regiment. From then on I took care to the aproach "one paint scheme/model line per squad" and most have a certain type of shield. So there are 10 with red dresses and massai shields, 10 with green saris and checker board shields etc.
I found for me personally 10 dudes is the perfect number for how long I like to keep to one scheme/build style before deviating from it.
And I also don't have two identical vehicles. While the overall colors are similar I sometimes have dotted camo, digital camo, clear bordered stripes, sprayed stripes etc.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/01 10:09:47
Subject: Painting and modelling: weird hang-ups, quirks,rituals and approaches
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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* Are there paints and bits you absolutely refuse to use or work with?
Yeah I'm never working with Citadel's Auric Armor again. A friend of mine introduced me to AK paints and I vastly prefer their golds, coppers and similar.
* Do you paint 'uniformly' or do you 'pick out' the seegeants/officers/elites with some special embellishment or variation on the colour scheme eg red helmet?
I used to paint squads with different identifiers but as I acquired more Orks over the years I found it more fun to have rag tag paint jobs.
* Does every model get a million colours with every pouch and thing painted? Or just a base coat, contrast and some details picked out?
I paint pouches on most infantry, even the Orks; but I don't go much further on detail than that before my RSI acts up.
* do you paint/undercoat on the sprue or half assemble and then do it?
Nowadays I prefer to paint on the sprue, easier on the hands.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/01 10:25:26
Subject: Re:Painting and modelling: weird hang-ups, quirks,rituals and approaches
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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Burned myself out on painting more than once in the past, so now I have the following strategy for painting my Space Marines:
Basecoat white.
Slop on yellow. (used to use a glossy yellow from a Wal-Mart model car paint set. Now I use Chrome yellow, until I run out. Then contrast Iyanden Yellow, I guess)
Red for one shoulder guard. (forget the color name)
Insignia blue (if I have it) for the other shoulder guard. French blue if I don't.
Bolters are painted gunmetal (think black with silver in it).
There, I'm done. The Space marine has, not THREE colors on it, but FOUR. Table-ready standard.
For special models I'll sometimes use inks to darken the cracks. On occasion I'll paint the eyes a different color. Characters get special treatment, but squaddies are basically done by the guidelines above, because I'm interested in using them on the table, I'm not interested in the seven-hour journey to a well painted model.
I especially love kitbashes. My chaplain is a kitbash, I have a Vanguard Veteran sergeant that's a kitbash of the old Emperors Champion, and most of my officers/characters are kitbashes - the ones that aren't usually don't even get painted. Somewhere I have a Grandmaster Voldus basecoated white. And a terminator captain of the Blood Angels that I put together, basecoated and was like... meh.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/01 11:14:08
Subject: Painting and modelling: weird hang-ups, quirks,rituals and approaches
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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I have a bad habit of leaving the heads off models as long as possible - it comes from my first army being Blood Angels and the different squad types having different helmet colours.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/01 11:55:10
Subject: Re:Painting and modelling: weird hang-ups, quirks,rituals and approaches
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Basecoated Black
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Oh I'll probably get lambasted for all my painting quirks and steps.
- I undercoat in white (no spray-can). I tried black for a while but honestly despise it as I can't see the detail of the model when an undercoat of black paint has been applied.
- My palette is an ancient bit of crockery that used to be a side plate, the paint of many model projects has slowly built up over the years forming a colour scheme all of it's own.
- My steps regarding model prep include removing from sprue and putting together first. If metal trim off excess mold lines, glue together/base; then paint.
- I dilute dark angels green with water for shading ork skin.
- I don't use varnish
- I have no intention of making or painting a resin model ever again. One has been enough and she is still a WIP.
- Monopose models get conversions to give them some charm (those old 2nd edition goff orks were prime candidates for this).
- I'm not making terrain out of polystyrene ever again, the mess is just not worth the effort.
- Basing is nice to do. But I just keep it simple for most regular troops. Paint all black, pva glue, dip in woodland flock, done.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/01 12:13:34
Subject: Painting and modelling: weird hang-ups, quirks,rituals and approaches
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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beast_gts wrote:I have a bad habit of leaving the heads off models as long as possible - it comes from my first army being Blood Angels and the different squad types having different helmet colours.
Oooh! Forgot about that one for me, but in the opposite direction. This is probably again, due to the era of GW I grew up in, but I will almost always 100% fully assemble and base minis before slapping some paint on them, no sub-assemblies for me. Now, I will absolutely concede there are some modern GW minis that have to be sub assembled, but 99% of the time I see it as utterly unnecessary and my painting style and methods of painting are adapted to suit.
Now, as to why- I can see two reasons. Firstly, I can go years between finishing some things 100% (I will stress this is not true for most of my minis). I've got minis that I started painting then lost interest or gone onto something else. If I had them in bits they would be lost PDQ.
Secondly, it's that of gaps. I hate them with a passion and is one of the things that well and truly annoys me about the sub assemble everything crowd. They are so fething slapdash with how they put stuff together in the end. Sure, you've managed to paint the neck part of the helmet that literally no one will see, but there's a massive gap running down another part where the individual bits connect together. I'd much rather have a model with bits I cannot paint (probably another reason I undercoat in black) than have it be covered in seam lines that would have otherwise been covered up if it were assembled fully pre painting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/01 13:11:20
Subject: Re:Painting and modelling: weird hang-ups, quirks,rituals and approaches
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Here's another one.
For my marines eapecially, I always stick to helmeted heads- I don't like bare heads. Obly rarely (reiver heads) do I use these and when I do its either guys with shaved heads or mohawks - don't got time for the blade 4 all round buzzcut. :p
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/01 13:17:21
Subject: Painting and modelling: weird hang-ups, quirks,rituals and approaches
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Fixture of Dakka
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I just keep coming up with cool ideas and repainting armies.... such a bad habit lol.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/01 13:33:15
Subject: Re:Painting and modelling: weird hang-ups, quirks,rituals and approaches
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Fixture of Dakka
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Probably my biggest quirk is that I paint slowly
and sporadically.
I don't hate painting, but it's not something I particularly enjoy doing either.
SSporadically: So mostly I paint when/if the whim (or inspiration) strikes. I joke that it's dependent upon the alignment of the stars.... When painting this way I always write down the mixes/combos I'm using if more than 1 model is involved because the whim could fade at any moment. It's easier to resume a project if I don't have to reinvent the mix.
●Alot of stuff gets primed/base coated once it's built.
Some stuff though I do on the sprue.
Most stuff generally gets base coated in Corax White (or equivalent), or a light grey.
I will not use black. It makes it much harder for me to see details when I actually paint it. It's much harder to cover with lighter colors. And until fully painted it just looks like a black lump on the table....
●I've come to really dislike modern things with sub-assemblies that you have to paint before building. Things where its impossible to go back & paint later.... They interfere with my natural sporadic approach to painting.
●Slowly: Every model gets the same amount of detail/effort. And I'm pretty good at painting. There is no doing a better job on characters/important pieces & a lesser job on the masses. Not when it comes to producing finished pieces.
This is where the "I paint slowly" part kicks in.
● I also tend to skip between forces/games when it comes to painting. I'm not necessarily painting what I'm playing....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/01 13:59:29
Subject: Painting and modelling: weird hang-ups, quirks,rituals and approaches
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Preparing the Invasion of Terra
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I don't varnish or seal my models at all.
At an event last year I scooped up 15 dead Militia and my opponent physically cringed when I said I didn't varnish them and would just touch up any chips/scrapes if/when I found them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/01 14:03:44
Subject: Painting and modelling: weird hang-ups, quirks,rituals and approaches
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Fixture of Dakka
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Gert wrote:I don't varnish or seal my models at all.
At an event last year I scooped up 15 dead Militia and my opponent physically cringed when I said I didn't varnish them and would just touch up any chips/scrapes if/when I found them.
I "painted" aka dipped my Nids in a heavy Wood varnish just to stop chipping bc I wanted to man handle them like Vegeta handles Goku. Worked great!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/01 14:12:10
Subject: Re:Painting and modelling: weird hang-ups, quirks,rituals and approaches
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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@ beast: same here, heads go on last. I find them easier to paint seperatly.
Also regarding further habits: I also use an older palett that by now is pretty crusted in old dried paint. I have a bad habbit of not always shaking my paints well enough and don't treat my brushes as good as I should.
Colourwise I relatively seldom use yellow (but a lot of beige and sand shades) and like red and purple a lot.
I try to paint all the details, so of course pouches and their lashes etc.
I very often use more Agrax Earth shade than I should on my vehicles but never seem to learn.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/01 14:20:50
Subject: Painting and modelling: weird hang-ups, quirks,rituals and approaches
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Nasty Nob
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My painting method is something I call kicking the can down the road. I'm sure other people do the same thing and call it something else.
Basically I paint the models in base colors, a long time ago and maybe even now there was a 3 color minimum for "paint scores" at tournaments. Granted now there's battle ready or table ready what ever it is.
I pick my 3 or more base colors and apply them and give the models a wash or two as a minimum. The more models I am trying to get painted at a time will dictate how much effort I put in in the first go round. Some times it's just base layers until all the models re at the end of the last step together. 50 conscripts for example. However I do not rush and will paint as few as 3 to 5 models before moving on the the next small batch. I find this helps manage the work very well for me. After they are all up to the last step I go back and work on the extra colors and then extra details in the same manner. I do try to do my bases all in one batch or two but bases are the least amount of work after the base coats are dry so I can dry brush out as many as I still have wet paint for at each color. Bases done this way usually take a lot less time than I expect when I get started. I stick to the same 4 or 5 colors in the same steps for bases on all of my armies, these color universally match the bases of my terrain and my mad, which is an easy.
Quarks?
I'm not sure. I do primer my models with a matte Black by folk art which is brushed on. FL. is very humid most of the year and I have wrecked my FW models in the past with bad spray on primer coats. Namely a Marauder Destroyer I got at full cost... I was in a hurry.
I do on occasion use an air brush for primer or base coats when I take commissions.
I don't tend to spray seal my models but I do spray seal my terrain in several flat coat after a brushed on mod-podge. I want my terrain to put up with the abuse of player, dice and travel.
I'll probably go back and spray seal my models one day but I've never been in a rush to do that.
The best part of kicking the can down the road is being able to get the easy part of the painting done enough to put models on the table and return to painting them when I find the time or inspiration to do so. And this keeps me from having a pile of shame. In the last few years I started changing my buying habits as well. I buy only one or two units at a time and order again after they are nearly done or after this has let me work at a good pace and also kept the clutter and stress down. I do find it a little stressful when I have a huge pile of models to figure out. And this also helps my budget manage my hobby spending.
Hope this was helpful.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/01 14:26:16
Subject: Painting and modelling: weird hang-ups, quirks,rituals and approaches
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Amishprn86 wrote:I just keep coming up with cool ideas and repainting armies.... such a bad habit lol.
Considering I've painted my ariadna and yu-jing 3 or 4 times now, my khador and circle twice (some 3 times!), some of my Raptors reivers started out as dark angels (when I thought they were jerks; it was before I pulled the trigger on my Minotaurs who are proper jerks :p), I would be a bit of a hypocrite if I had words with you for doing the same, haha!
And its not a bad habit. That's just an ugly Dark Angel. :p if you're putting the effort into painting your dudes, why put all that effort into a paint scheme you don't like or don't click with. Imo I'd rather repaint it all and be happy with it than leave it in my display cabinet anf be unenthusiastic about what I'd done.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/01 17:37:16
Subject: Painting and modelling: weird hang-ups, quirks,rituals and approaches
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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Until recently, bases painted black with no adornment. Honestly, if I could be arsed to rebase them with clear acrylic bases, I would.
I am scared to death of my airbrush, so I've used it very little (doesn't help it's indoors). Still use the rattle can to prime (white or the primary model color, never black), then everything is by brush. I keep forgetting the paint handle I bought, so everything gets laid on a table and turned over to get all sides.
My models are as close to fully assembled as possible before priming. May be in sections if there are hard to reach areas.
I paint vehicle interiors, even if they will be glued shut.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Grimtuff wrote:
I try majorly to avoid studio schemes as I want my models to stand out a bit. My Khador for example have the studio scheme reversed, with Khaki/brown as a main colour and red and gold as complimentary colours.
I used to paint my models custom schemes (lime green marines ... ugh, what was I thinking?) so I could easily identify them at store games, but I've taken to using studio schemes because it's so much easier to round out my army with used, painted models from e-bay, and it looks uniform.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/04 09:53:48
Subject: Painting and modelling: weird hang-ups, quirks,rituals and approaches
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Traitor
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I paint in batches. As many models I have, will line them up and get a coat of paint on them. I have 1000 points of Guard, and I'll paint the same piece of the model, for all the models at that time. So all the armour, or all the lasguns, or all the faces at that time. Yes, that 45 to 50 infantry at a time. I have 40 boys to paint next, only primed.
I like using rust brown as a primer. I like painting yellow, and brown is the best base coat for it.
If not using brown, I'll use grey. I started using black, but found covering was was impossible in a manner I liked, switched to white, but the colours were too bright.
I used "zenithal" for the Guard and some ork boys as a test to see if I liked it better the rust brown or grey. so far...meh. more work then worth.
Gold is always base coat brown, drybrush yellow, then gold over it.
I'll layer progressively paint lighter shades to build depth, drybrush, then ink/shade.
Always fully assemble the models, but not the orc boys. I have clear bases for them. So they are off base until they are completed.
Bones are painted brown, then painted cream or off white.
I don't plan on my scheme before appling paint, so I'll pick something to work on, slap some paint on it, and then paint all the models that way. The Guard have yellow knives, bayonets, powerswords and chainswords. Not planned.
I don't strip or repaint. How the model ends up is how it ends up. I am no pro painter.
I really like painting Orks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/04 17:21:54
Subject: Re:Painting and modelling: weird hang-ups, quirks,rituals and approaches
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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*nods head* I've done the 'paint the same thing' approach myself, but never really on more than a dozen models at a time.
If you don't repaint, do you not do 'touch ups etc'?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/05 11:35:21
Subject: Painting and modelling: weird hang-ups, quirks,rituals and approaches
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Traitor
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no touch ups unless it is noticeable from arms length. I have 4 infantry squads, 10 crusaders, 10 ratlings, officers, commisars, priest, hw teams...it can be alot to sit and do...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/05 12:21:29
Subject: Painting and modelling: weird hang-ups, quirks,rituals and approaches
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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My eyes are bad enough, even with glasses, that I need a magnifying ring light to paint- not sure if that's a ritual... But it is something I can't paint without.
So far this year, I've participated in 9 painting challenges- these motivate me tremendously. Assuming my new ring light arrives today, I am likely to successfully complete the 9th challenge this weekend and get my model(s) pledged for the 10th.
I also sometimes like to make models "win their paint" - especially if it's a new force that I'm unfamiliar with; usually I will play a game with them as soon as they are primed so that I can learn what they feel like on the table, and it will be the MVP's of that trial game that get paint first.
As I become more and more interested in creating both still photo and video battle reports, however, this ritual becomes less practical.
Also, I try to represent Crusade Battle Honours on models when I can, which sometimes means starting with suboptimal builds and earning the rest, and other times might just mean adding another skull to a base.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/05 12:59:21
Subject: Re:Painting and modelling: weird hang-ups, quirks,rituals and approaches
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Painting challenges!
Interesting.
Ever do a 'centurion'? Paint a hundred models in a month. I dud once, with a few days to spare.
Best personal 'challenge' I ever really did was a hundred odd kasrkin over a cold, dark wet winter holidays (scotland so pitch dark and miserable by 4pm, do nothing else to do). I doubt I could ever commit to something like that again - the planets aligned then!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/05 13:01:29
Subject: Re:Painting and modelling: weird hang-ups, quirks,rituals and approaches
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Lord of the Fleet
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Are there paints and bits you absolutely refuse to use or work with? (Are there 'elitists' who refuses to work with purple or blue for example? I jest, by the way) - I refuse to use Vallejo's non-airbrush metallics. Somehow they're both too thick and too thin at the same time. Perhaps I just got a bad batch, I don't know, but I just use their thinner airbrushing ones even with a paintbrush, they just flow smoothly and provide a lovely cover. - I also had major gripes against Gunze paints, but that was before I used their self-levelling thinner; now they're the best paints I've ever used. * Do you paint 'uniformly' or do you 'pick out' the seegeants/officers/elites with some special embellishment or variation on the colour scheme eg red helmet? - Yes. My Marines have red helmets, Guard have sergeant stripes painted on, and my Shas'Uis have the shoulder pad colours reversed and are in a noticeable pose. *are there poses put there you detest and that model just gets binned or used as spare parts? - Anything with a very thin connection to the base, such as Celestine. Just asking to get snapped. * Does every model get a million colours with every pouch and thing painted? Or just a base coat, contrast and some details picked out? - Main body of the model gets a basecoat, wash and topcoat. Smaller details just get a basecoat and wash. * do you paint/undercoat on the sprue or half assemble and then do it? - Half assemble.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/05 13:08:59
Subject: Painting and modelling: weird hang-ups, quirks,rituals and approaches
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I find the number of people who religiously basecoat everything black to be weird, because I agree it subsequently makes picking out details or painting any light colour much harder. Can't really spray stuff where I am, so I basecoat with P3 Trollblood Highlight. I find its sufficiently neutral to then facilitate either dark or light colours on top.
If you've got a unit of say 10 guys, I'll do one as a test case just to make sure the scheme doesn't look terrible/weird. (Less of a concern if you are multiple squads deep by this point, but still). Then paint all the regular guys. Then say the sergeant+special weapon guys last so hopefully their highlighting is on point and at a slightly higher standard.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/05 13:30:53
Subject: Re:Painting and modelling: weird hang-ups, quirks,rituals and approaches
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Deadnight wrote:Painting challenges!
Interesting.
Ever do a 'centurion'? Paint a hundred models in a month. I dud once, with a few days to spare.
Best personal 'challenge' I ever really did was a hundred odd kasrkin over a cold, dark wet winter holidays (scotland so pitch dark and miserable by 4pm, do nothing else to do). I doubt I could ever commit to something like that again - the planets aligned then!
Oh no- I'm WAY too slow a painter for that.
Most of my challenges have been Compendium Fireteams from KT21, meaning 5-7 models each. A few have been singles.
January- A single purestrain to bring a partially completed fireteam to 5 models.
February- A full purestrain fireteam (5 models)
March- A full Thresher House fireteam (7 models, count as guard)
April- Archon
Anger and Arrogance- Wych fireteam (5 models)
May- A Wych fire Team (five models)
June - Only missed challenge this year
July- 5 Khymerae pups (Classic metal Warp Beasts)
Bug's Life: 6 Purestrains- yet to be completed (deadline August 22)
35 models in total- More than I've painted in a year since 2010.
I haven't pledged a monthly challenge for August yet- I need to get Bug's Life out of the way first... But there's a dude on another forum who loves retrohammer, and I told him I'd paint up a classic metal RT Era HR Giger Chaos dreadnaught in Emperor's Children colours in his honour, and I have 6 Classic Metal Noise Marines to go with it... So my August Challenge may be some combination of those.
I'm also lining up a few House Locarno conversions (two Espern heads- one standard, one modified- on Delaque bodies) and a Sister Famulous to go with them ( GSC female Magus with sister head and fleur de lys bits cut from a spare Simulacrum Imperialis). So it could be them.
A final option is my Lhamaean (who is the one that brings the Khymerae pups to my Archon as a gift) or my Haemonculus (who lives in an Oubliette beneath the arena and needs to make a deal with the Wych Cults to claim their dead so he can build an force of Wracks).
I have 2 weeks of vacation in August, which means I might also pledge another six Purestrains and/or my Blooded Patriarch as additional Bug's life challenges... But that's ambitious giving my glacial painting pace.
I have a Rammstein Concert in the middle of that vacation, so I am feeling the Noise Marines. We bought our tickets for the 2020 show (cancelled due to Covid); they planned to honour those tickets at a show in 2021 (also cancelled due to Covid); now the show is finally a go for 2022. Probably come home with Monkey Pox knowing my luck- just got over Covid 3 weeks ago, so that shouldn't be a threat.
(Sorry to ramble)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/05 13:34:10
Subject: Painting and modelling: weird hang-ups, quirks,rituals and approaches
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Morally-Flexible Malleus Hearing Whispers
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There is a scene in The Big Lebowski where Maude Lebowski expertly demonstrates how I paint my minis.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/05 13:34:47
Subject: Painting and modelling: weird hang-ups, quirks,rituals and approaches
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Ultramarine Terminator with Assault Cannon
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I will not spray my models (prime, color or varnish) outside. I'm lucky to have access to a climate controlled spray booth; I have a strong dislike of airbrushing, despite being pretty good at it. I refuse to use superglue on plastic models. Plastic glue only for plastic models. Mold lines. OMFG, mold lines. I hates them. Lastly, and I think this is true for most people... Symmetry. I get really hung up on symmetry and can get frustrated when things don't match. This is primarily why I dislike mixing paints.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/05 15:08:52
Subject: Re:Painting and modelling: weird hang-ups, quirks,rituals and approaches
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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PenitentJake wrote:
Oh no- I'm WAY too slow a painter for that.
Most of my challenges have been Compendium Fireteams from KT21, meaning 5-7 models each. A few have been singles.
(Sorry to ramble)
Rest assured I'm not that prolific a painter myself in terms of sheer 'speed'. I've got 1250 odd minis in my display cabinets, 95% painted but that's over... 20 years.
That centurion and the kasrkin were once offs. Next one was my lotr painted nearly 200 warriors over a few months but with the caveat it was absolute speed painting. Probably no more than 5 or 20 minutes a model but lotr... you can kind of get away with that since the models are so simple.
Last... maybe 2 to 3 months I've been working my way through repainting some of my old khador minis. I have 11 bloodtrackers, a ravager pack leader, a dozen iron fangs, a dozen doom reavers and 2 solos repainted, with 4 ravagers assembled and 'darkoath fleshed' but zero other details. That's a 'hard' pace these days. :p
Kill team is fantastic though. Like necromunda. I learned to love skirmish games through infinity and old wmh - love the notion of a gane with a dozen figures or so. You can really enjoy painting each as an individual. Those mass painting projects didn't have the same joy.
oni wrote:I will not spay my models.
Lastly, and I think this is true for most people... Symmetry. I get really hung up on symmetry and can get frustrated when things don't match. This is primarily why I dislike mixing paints.
Didn't know models could be speyed. Does that make them... less competitive? :p
So... symmetry. Matching shoulder pads etc, that kind of thing? Or do all troopers have to be 'clones'?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/05 15:19:16
Subject: Re:Painting and modelling: weird hang-ups, quirks,rituals and approaches
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Fixture of Dakka
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Deadnight wrote:Painting challenges!
Interesting.
Ever do a 'centurion'? Paint a hundred models in a month. I dud once, with a few days to spare.
Best personal 'challenge' I ever really did was a hundred odd kasrkin over a cold, dark wet winter holidays (scotland so pitch dark and miserable by 4pm, do nothing else to do). I doubt I could ever commit to something like that again - the planets aligned then!
Oh yes. Summer of 2020 as everything was shut down because of the pandemic. 220some goblins & misc goblin stuff over about a 6 week period.
Outside of going to the grocery store now & then I had nothing better to do than watch Netflix & paint goblins.....
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