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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/09/07 01:46:22
Subject: [2000] - Aeldari - Quick tournament list, with tourny result!
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Sneaky Striking Scorpion
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Just looking for holes and suggestion in a blind all-comers style list!
++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Aeldari - Craftworlds) [108 PL, 4CP, 1,998pts] ++
+ Configuration +
Battle Size [6CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)
Craftworld Selection: Ulthwe: Foresight of the Damned
Detachment Command Cost
Gametype: 4. Chapter Approved: War Zone Nephilim
+ HQ +
Autarch [6 PL, 110pts]: Fusion Pistol, Howling Banshee Mask, Star Glaive, Swooping Hawk Wings
Farseer [5 PL, -2CP, 95pts]: 1. Guide, 2. Doom, 6. Impair Senses, Stratagem: Relic, Stratagem: Warlord Trait, Ulthwe: Fate Reader, Warlord, Witchblade
. The Ghosthelm of Alishazier
+ Troops +
Guardian Defenders [5 PL, 115pts]
. 10x Guardian Defender: 10x Plasma Grenades, 10x Shuriken Catapult
. Guardian Heavy Weapons Platform: Aeldari Missile Launcher
Guardian Defenders [5 PL, 115pts]
. 10x Guardian Defender: 10x Plasma Grenades, 10x Shuriken Catapult
. Guardian Heavy Weapons Platform: Aeldari Missile Launcher
Rangers [4 PL, 65pts]
. 5x Ranger: 5x Ranger Long Rifle, 5x Shuriken Pistol
+ Elites +
Dire Avengers [7 PL, 160pts]
. 9x Dire Avenger: 9x Avenger Shuriken Catapult, 9x Plasma Grenades
. Dire Avenger Exarch: Shimmershield & Diresword, Shredding Fire
Fire Dragons [12 PL, 154pts]
. 5x Fire Dragon: 5x Dragon Fusion Gun
. Fire Dragon Exarch: Firepike
Howling Banshees [9 PL, 134pts]
. 5x Howling Banshee: 5x Banshee Blade, 5x Shuriken Pistol
. Howling Banshee Exarch: Graceful Avoidance, Mirrorswords
+ Fast Attack +
Shining Spears [5 PL, 110pts]
. 2x Shining Spear: 2x Laser Lance, 2x Twin Shuriken Catapult
. Shining Spear Exarch: Laser Lance, Shimmershield, Shuriken Cannon
Vypers [3 PL, 50pts]
. Vyper w/ Starcannon: Starcannon
+ Heavy Support +
Falcon [9 PL, 155pts]: Crystal Targeting Matrix, Scatter Laser, Twin Shuriken Catapult
Falcon [9 PL, 155pts]: Crystal Targeting Matrix, Scatter Laser, Twin Shuriken Catapult
War Walkers [5 PL, 85pts]
. War Walker: 2x Bright Lance
+ Dedicated Transport +
Wave Serpent [8 PL, 165pts]: Shuriken Cannon, Twin Starcannon
Wave Serpent [8 PL, 155pts]: Shuriken Cannon, Twin Shuriken Cannon
Wave Serpent [8 PL, 175pts]: Shuriken Cannon, Twin Bright Lance
++ Total: [108 PL, 4CP, 1,998pts] ++
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2022/09/11 02:24:47
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/09/08 18:46:37
Subject: [2000] - Aeldari - Quick tournament list
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Nurgle Chosen Marine on a Palanquin
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I've done some analysis of all the weapon options available on vehicles, it seems that in general the shuriken cannon is the best one. I would run it on the falcons on the turret and underslung,
And twin-linked on the serpents, with the regular catapults down below.
Same story for the vyper.
The shining spears I'd run as many of those as you got and upgrade to a star lance
Impair Senses on your farseer is interesting , have you considered ghostwalk, so you can deep strike your banshees with the falcon, dump them out and charge on a 7+? Then give the banshee exarch the chronescream and mirrior blade + nerve shreadding shriek (MW + good chance they'll fail attrition. (but... I was also thinking exeuctioner blade with peircing strikes because 3 wounds models).
I do not see any warlocks, I don't know how anyone can operate without Jinx!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/09/08 19:52:29
Subject: [2000] - Aeldari - Quick tournament list
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Sneaky Striking Scorpion
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Sazzlefrats wrote:
The shining spears I'd run as many of those as you got and upgrade to a star lance
Impair Senses on your farseer is interesting , have you considered ghostwalk, so you can deep strike your banshees with the falcon, dump them out and charge on a 7+? Then give the banshee exarch the chronescream and mirrior blade + nerve shreadding shriek ( MW + good chance they'll fail attrition. (but... I was also thinking exeuctioner blade with peircing strikes because 3 wounds models).
I do not see any warlocks, I don't know how anyone can operate without Jinx!
I agree that some underslung SCs on the falcons would be better, good catch, I don't know why I didn't take those.
As for the shining spears,Spears, the star Lance is good for wounding Marines on 2s, but the basic str6 Lance tends to do well enough for me, especially with "doom". The DeathGuard meta is strong here and I woukd be wounding on 3s anyways. With Impair Senses, If I can shut down Blood Angel shrugs and other rerole auras, or even the Shadowseer abilities, that helps more than a +2 charge when I could just use fate-dice for a guaranteed charge, lol. Also with the large amount of high AP weapons I have, Jinx feels superfluous, it doesnt work on invulnerable saves......but you do raise some points for me to look at.....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/09/08 21:16:31
Subject: [2000] - Aeldari - Quick tournament list
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Nurgle Chosen Marine on a Palanquin
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Armor of Contempt makes Jinx all the more attractive, even a basic space marine with cover could save on a 5+ against a fire dragon. Catch one out in the open and Jinx will deny the saving throw.
But mostly with scatter lasers which could be shurken cannons and the dire avengers... that's volumes of firepower, that's where Jinx makes its money. Drop the vyper, add a warlock... easy peasy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/09/09 03:58:44
Subject: Re:[2000] - Aeldari - Quick tournament list
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Sneaky Striking Scorpion
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I will make sure not to waste my Firedragons shooting at basic troops in cover, especially when I have Dire Avengers with Shredding Fire available, lol.
I like the Viper as it's only 10pts more than a warlock, has long range Fire, and movement that can push back objectives or act as a sacrifice and draw Fire if needed....Warlocks are too squishy for a single power that requires them to be close to the enemy and can be Denied.....and putting him on a bike gets expensive, not to mention that he is a easy "assassinate" score if solo. Automatically Appended Next Post: Taking your suggestions into consideration, this may be the new list....
++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Aeldari - Craftworlds) [109 PL, 4CP, 1,998pts] ++
+ Configuration +
Battle Size [6CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)
Craftworld Selection: Ulthwe: Foresight of the Damned
Detachment Command Cost
Game Type: 4. Chapter Approved: War Zone Nephilim
+ HQ +
Farseer [5 PL, -2CP, 95pts]: 1. Guide, 2. Doom, 6. Impair Senses, Stratagem: Relic, Stratagem: Warlord Trait, Ulthwe: Fate Reader, Warlord, Witchblade
. The Ghosthelm of Alishazier
Spiritseer [4 PL, 75pts]: 1. Fateful Divergence
+ Troops +
Guardian Defenders [5 PL, 115pts]
. 10x Guardian Defender: 10x Plasma Grenades, 10x Shuriken Catapult
. Guardian Heavy Weapons Platform: Aeldari Missile Launcher
Guardian Defenders [5 PL, 115pts]
. 10x Guardian Defender: 10x Plasma Grenades, 10x Shuriken Catapult
. Guardian Heavy Weapons Platform: Aeldari Missile Launcher
Rangers [4 PL, 65pts]
. 5x Ranger: 5x Ranger Long Rifle, 5x Shuriken Pistol
+ Elites +
Dire Avengers [7 PL, 155pts]
. 9x Dire Avenger: 9x Avenger Shuriken Catapult, 9x Plasma Grenades
. Dire Avenger Exarch: Shredding Fire, Shuriken Pistol & Diresword
Fire Dragons [12 PL, 154pts]
. 5x Fire Dragon: 5x Dragon Fusion Gun
. Fire Dragon Exarch: Firepike
Howling Banshees [9 PL, 134pts]
. 5x Howling Banshee: 5x Banshee Blade, 5x Shuriken Pistol
. Howling Banshee Exarch: Graceful Avoidance, Mirrorswords
Warlocks [3 PL, 40pts]: 4. Protect/Jinx
. Warlock: Witchblade
. Warlock: Witchblade
+ Fast Attack +
Shining Spears [5 PL, 110pts]
. 2x Shining Spear: 2x Laser Lance, 2x Twin Shuriken Catapult
. Shining Spear Exarch: Laser Lance, Shimmershield, Shuriken Cannon
Vypers [3 PL, 50pts]
. Vyper w/ Starcannon: Starcannon
+ Heavy Support +
Falcon [9 PL, 155pts]: Crystal Targeting Matrix, Scatter Laser, Twin Shuriken Catapult
Falcon [9 PL, 155pts]: Crystal Targeting Matrix, Scatter Laser, Twin Shuriken Catapult
War Walkers [5 PL, 85pts]
. War Walker: 2x Bright Lance
+ Dedicated Transport +
Wave Serpent [8 PL, 165pts]: Shuriken Cannon, Twin Starcannon
Wave Serpent [8 PL, 155pts]: Shuriken Cannon, Twin Shuriken Cannon
Wave Serpent [8 PL, 175pts]: Shuriken Cannon, Twin Bright Lance
++ Total: [109 PL, 4CP, 1,998pts] ++
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2022/09/09 04:05:18
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/09/09 17:19:29
Subject: [2000] - Aeldari - Quick tournament list
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Nurgle Chosen Marine on a Palanquin
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Remove an underslung shuriken cannon on a wavewserpent to give both falcons underslung shuriken cannons.
I think the Autarch is much better than a shadowseer., reroll 1's right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/09/09 19:30:16
Subject: [2000] - Aeldari - Quick tournament list
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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I personally would skip the Missile Launcher platforms on the Guardians and spend those points elsewhere.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/09/11 02:22:46
Subject: Re:[2000] - Aeldari - Quick tournament list
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Sneaky Striking Scorpion
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So here was the final list.....
++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Aeldari - Craftworlds) [112 PL, 4CP, 1,998pts] ++
+ Configuration +
Battle Size [6CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)
Craftworld Selection: Ulthwe: Foresight of the Damned
Detachment Command Cost
Game Type: 4. Chapter Approved: War Zone Nephilim
+ HQ +
Farseer [5 PL, -2CP, 95pts]: 1. Guide, 2. Doom, 6. Impair Senses, Stratagem: Relic, Stratagem: Warlord Trait, Ulthwe: Fate Reader, Warlord, Witchblade
. The Ghosthelm of Alishazier
Spiritseer [4 PL, 75pts]: 1. Fateful Divergence
+ Troops +
Guardian Defenders [5 PL, 115pts]
. 10x Guardian Defender: 10x Plasma Grenades, 10x Shuriken Catapult
. Guardian Heavy Weapons Platform: Aeldari Missile Launcher
Rangers [4 PL, 65pts]
. 5x Ranger: 5x Ranger Long Rifle, 5x Shuriken Pistol
Rangers [4 PL, 65pts]
. 5x Ranger: 5x Ranger Long Rifle, 5x Shuriken Pistol
Rangers [4 PL, 65pts]
. 5x Ranger: 5x Ranger Long Rifle, 5x Shuriken Pistol
+ Elites +
Dire Avengers [7 PL, 160pts]
. 9x Dire Avenger: 9x Avenger Shuriken Catapult, 9x Plasma Grenades
. Dire Avenger Exarch: Shimmershield & Power Glaive, Shredding Fire
Fire Dragons [12 PL, 154pts]
. 5x Fire Dragon: 5x Dragon Fusion Gun
. Fire Dragon Exarch: Firepike
Howling Banshees [9 PL, 129pts]
. 5x Howling Banshee: 5x Banshee Blade, 5x Shuriken Pistol
. Howling Banshee Exarch: Mirrorswords, Piercing Strikes
Warlocks [3 PL, 40pts]: 4. Protect/Jinx
. Warlock: Witchblade
. Warlock: Witchblade
+ Fast Attack +
Shining Spears [5 PL, 110pts]
. 2x Shining Spear: 2x Laser Lance, 2x Twin Shuriken Catapult
. Shining Spear Exarch: Laser Lance, Shimmershield, Shuriken Cannon
Vypers [3 PL, 50pts]
. Vyper w/ Starcannon: Starcannon
Windriders [8 PL, 150pts]
. 5x Windrider - Scatter Laser: 5x Scatter Laser
+ Heavy Support +
Falcon [9 PL, 160pts]: Crystal Targeting Matrix, Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon
Falcon [9 PL, 160pts]: Crystal Targeting Matrix, Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon
War Walkers [5 PL, 85pts]
. War Walker: 2x Bright Lance
+ Dedicated Transport +
Wave Serpent [8 PL, 155pts]: Shuriken Cannon, Twin Shuriken Cannon
Wave Serpent [8 PL, 165pts]: Shuriken Cannon, Twin Starcannon
++ Total: [112 PL, 4CP, 1,998pts] ++
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I kept the Missile Launcher on the guardians so the could be a little more flexible, and swapped the Autarch for a couple warlocks and a spirit Seer with "Divergence" for extra CPs or psychic actions.......
First game was against a grot based Death Skulls ork player, game ended 76 to 75 my favor.
Second match was against chaos knights with a center objective worth extra points.....killed all but 1 knight with just a farseer and 2 guardians left, lost 86 to 45.
Last game was vs a necron player with a tesserect vault, won 82 to 32.......
Won 2nd place, Not a bad day today
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/09/11 17:53:15
Subject: [2000] - Aeldari - Quick tournament list, with tourny result!
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Nurgle Chosen Marine on a Palanquin
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Tells us more about the choas knights?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/09/11 21:48:09
Subject: Re:[2000] - Aeldari - Quick tournament list, with tourny result!
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Sneaky Striking Scorpion
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I don't know much about the new Knights Codex, but it was 2 larger Knights from the house that gets extra wounds, and about 7 little mechs. The mission was Secure Sanctuaries, so he just sat everything in the middle and scored heavy on primaries everyturn and has secondaries that scores points for just being within (12"? ) of an objective. He would just focus fire anything of mine that was on an objective and i only scored points for behind enemy lines, scout the enemy, and bring it down. I did kill one of his big guys with my fire dragons just for it to use a "comeback with d3 wounds" Stratagem, and obliterate them, everything else was making their 4+ invulnerable saves, and having table control his dread range messed with my shooting and shut down 3 charges........ very tough army if your not decked out to handle it
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/09/12 01:47:48
Subject: [2000] - Aeldari - Quick tournament list, with tourny result!
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Nurgle Chosen Marine on a Palanquin
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They don't benefit from Armor of Contempt do they?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/09/12 02:53:25
Subject: Re:[2000] - Aeldari - Quick tournament list, with tourny result!
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Sneaky Striking Scorpion
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No, they do not
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