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If I had 120 points. Would 5x Raptors MoK be better or 3 Bikes MoT w/2 flamers.

Raptors MoK range x5 S4 AP 0 D1 and x21 attacks at 3+ hit S5 D1 AP -1 can leap over units and buildings

Or 3 bikes MoT. T5 and ignore first failed save. Attacks at 3+ hit S4. Can shoot 12 S4 AP -1 D1. and 2 flames 1d6+2 auto hit AP -1 D1 and 17 melee attacks AP -1 D1.

How do you get the Bikers to AP-1?
And what's the rest of your list look like?

I like the Raptors because of thier deep strike ability.

 JNAProductions wrote:
How do you get the Bikers to AP-1?
And what's the rest of your list look like?

Mark of Tzeentch and Icon. Mark gives ignore first failed save on a T5 unit and Icon gives range -1 AP bonus

Rhino with MoE and Chosen Mok. DP MoU Possessed. DA with Terminators. MoP with Venomcrawler near DA. 2x cultists 1x legionaries balefire, Havoc MoT 4 lascannon, 1x accursed possesed leaving raptors or bikes.

Raptors MoK have more mobility but Bikes have more damage and Toughness.

You seem to be asking a lot of the same type of questions, but not quite understanding the consistent message in the replies. Unless there's a massive disparity in the balance of two options, the answer to questions like this will almost always be "it depends".

What do you want the unit to do? What is the rough gameplan for the rest of your army? What secondaries are you planning to take? Which Legion are you? You need to answer these questions before you can get close to answering which of those units is better, or whether those 120 points might be better invested in something completely different.

For example, Raptors can help with raising banners early on objectives in no man's land. Bikes are tough, but not quite as tough as you might expect, especially in a unit of 3. Both are mobile, but in different ways. Neither are bad units, but I'm not generally convinced 3 bikes is effective enough for the points.

 IwinUlose wrote:

 JNAProductions wrote:
How do you get the Bikers to AP-1?
And what's the rest of your list look like?

Mark of Tzeentch and Icon. Mark gives ignore first failed save on a T5 unit and Icon gives range -1 AP bonus

AP-1 like that is absolutely useless on shooting right now. All Marine varieties ignore it, Votaan ignore it, and Daemons/Harlequins ignore it. You'd be better off going the Nurgle route at that point with Bikers, since the minimum squad is 12 shots to begin with, so on average you'll get two autowound. That's obviously better for harder to wound targets.