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I'm guessing the show will be about the Horus Heresy so Primaris don't need to be explained at all.
However if it is 40k then I reckon they'll just ignore the whole Primaris/Firstborn thing entirely.

The only way I think that they could do space marines interesting would be how Chris Wraight wrote Shiban Khan and Torghun Khan. Show them as regular human kids and follow them as they get recruited and go through the trials. This would work especially well if they end up going 30k because they could make one traitor and one loyalist like in "Scars".

I agree that it should probably focus on regular humans though.

So, two things:
In any movie containing Vin Diesel, the skill of his acting is inversely proportional to the amount he speaks. Literally. His best acting is as a tree with 1 line, or a blind and edgy convict that never speaks. Put him in a car, and give him lines, and it's comedy how fast the movie reviews plummet. He's gotten by on edgy and grizzled so much, he's essentially become a 14 year old's first Drow character.

Secondly, I could have SWORN this was supposed to be an Eisenhorne Series. Not a general 40k show with all of the bloat thrown together every episode.

Minutiae like distinctions between versions of marines is definitely something the series shouldn't dwell on. Casual viewers don't care and it would just confuse them. Marine look probably should be something closer to primaris though, as they have more visual detail that upscales better for the screen.

However, I really hope the series isn't about marines of any sort. As characters marines are boring, especially when interacting mainly with one marines. Now having one marine like a Deathwatch member attached to Inquisitors team could work, as it would allow contrasting the brainwashed indoctrination of marine versus some more normal humans (as much as anyone in 40K is "normal".)

 Crimson wrote:
Minutiae like distinctions between versions of marines is definitely something the series shouldn't dwell on. Casual viewers don't care and it would just confuse them. Marine look probably should be something closer to primaris though, as they have more visual detail that upscales better for the screen.

The difference between any kind of marine model and how a live-action marine pretty much needs to look if it's not 100% CGI is way bigger than the difference between different types of tabletop marines. Look how even really good cosplayer costumes need to diverge from the 'classic' marine look for anatomical reasons and you have a good approximation how a live-action movie marine would pan out.

FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
So, two things:
In any movie containing Vin Diesel, the skill of his acting is inversely proportional to the amount he speaks. Literally. His best acting is as a tree with 1 line, or a blind and edgy convict that never speaks. Put him in a car, and give him lines, and it's comedy how fast the movie reviews plummet. He's gotten by on edgy and grizzled so much, he's essentially become a 14 year old's first Drow character.

Secondly, I could have SWORN this was supposed to be an Eisenhorne Series. Not a general 40k show with all of the bloat thrown together every episode.

'This' is about the Amazon/Cavil/GW agreement (and Vertigo Entertainment, but people are largely leaving them out, even though they'll be doing most of the work), and whatever projects ("rights to a universe of Warhammer programming across multiple Amazon entertainment businesses") come out of that.

It may or may not have anything at all to do with the rumor (or more solid claims) that GW was trying to get an Eisenhorn series off the ground.

I mean, GW has been talking about doing a Eisenhorn series since they literally dropped the model. They've been trying like CRAZY to sell that series to a publisher, which is odd to me, considering that Gaunt's series is far easier and less schlocky for a Grim-dark TV series. Gaunt's series wouldn't need the massive CGI/ILM budget that Eisenhorn would. How to do portray a "Blank" visually? Or a Force Staff, or the Titan it's obliterating? Or Cherubael? Without CGI I mean.

Gaunt's just sci-fi hogans Heroes meets the A Team.

A lot of people watching the show outside of Warhammer fans couldn't give a crap about firstborn vs primaris. So I don't think they will really focus on that.

I'm sure I'll be proved wrong but I just don't think it will be HH.

The smart thing would be to do the Eisenhorn books and by the sound of it they have been trying to get that off the ground for a while.


A good alternative would be to do a similar Inquisitorial show but set with entirely new characters in a made up sector. The Inquisition makes the most sense for setting up the 40k universe for most people and it allows them to explore the setting using a small cast and wide ranging events.

If it's a success I think we would see a Heresy show but to start off with would be a bad idea.

But then GW are full of poor ideas at times so who knows?

 Olthannon wrote:
A lot of people watching the show outside of Warhammer fans couldn't give a crap about firstborn vs primaris. So I don't think they will really focus on that.

I'm sure I'll be proved wrong but I just don't think it will be HH.

The smart thing would be to do the Eisenhorn books and by the sound of it they have been trying to get that off the ground for a while.


A good alternative would be to do a similar Inquisitorial show but set with entirely new characters in a made up sector. The Inquisition makes the most sense for setting up the 40k universe for most people and it allows them to explore the setting using a small cast and wide ranging events.

If it's a success I think we would see a Heresy show but to start off with would be a bad idea.

But then GW are full of poor ideas at times so who knows?

Eisenhorn is probably too restricted by existing books and stories, and on the legal side probably also by existing products - a series that touches on the same themes and has overall similarities in plot and pacing is a smarter move, it allows for more creative freedom and is less quagmire-y on the legal/merch/profit splitting side of things. You can work around all of that if you really want to do Eisenhorn, but if you just want to do a Warhammer story, starting with a new canvas is probably the smarter move.

Inquisition team would be workable and would allow variety of characters, but if one would want to avoid a show focusing on the highest ranking enforcers of the hellish totalitarian regime, then rogue trader's crew would be a good alternative.

 Crimson wrote:
Inquisition team would be workable and would allow variety of characters, but if one would want to avoid a show focusing on the highest ranking enforcers of the hellish totalitarian regime, then rogue trader's crew would be a good alternative.

You can easily start with the RT crew and later reveal that it was all a cover for the Inquisition team.

FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
So, two things:
In any movie containing Vin Diesel, the skill of his acting is inversely proportional to the amount he speaks. Literally. His best acting is as a tree with 1 line, or a blind and edgy convict that never speaks. Put him in a car, and give him lines, and it's comedy how fast the movie reviews plummet. He's gotten by on edgy and grizzled so much, he's essentially become a 14 year old's first Drow character.

I'll agree the latter F&F movies are ludicrous, but it isn't because of his acting

"We're making a series based on Warhammer 40k!"

a thousand people immediately assume it's going to be a show set in 30k

Listen, I know that the novels are excellent and the series could be its own vast cinematic universe, but it's not going to be the first thing they tackle.

Voss wrote:
There isn't. IF they're dumb enough to launch with an argument over the trivial distinctions between super soliders and slightly better super soldiers, they deserve to lose money by throwing it away on a doomed to fail project.

Exactly. Plus, I strongly suspect the Primaris were introduced mainly to encourage Marine players to buy new models (Aragorn: "We already have super-soldiers." Pippin: "Ah, but what about super-super-soldiers?"), and all the fluff about this new kind of Marine was added almost as an afterthought. It's not really an important part of the lore.

I agree a TV series should focus on normal humans, like guardsmen or an Inquisition team, in order to have broad appeal and ease newcomers into the setting. If Marines are featured at all, it should be on propaganda posters extolling the might of the Imperium. Maybe they get just the one appearance in the season finale, when they drop from the sky as last-minute reinforcements and mop up the rest of the enemy (mostly off-screen). Their main purpose should be as a reminder that the protagonists, for all the struggles we've seen them go through and all the terrifying foes they've defeated, are at a pretty low weight class in the grand scheme of things.

I think a 40k TV series should be relatively small-scale and devoid of cheap, Leonardo-DiCaprio-pointing-at-screen fanservice. Something along the lines of Star Wars: Andor, with a heavy focus on life in the Imperium rather than heroic battles.

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 ratlaw wrote:

 Dekskull wrote:
I just don't want them to do a TV show.

Seriously if this thing gets too popular Disney will buy it and then it will be all over.

Same here...Guess what I just read...that f'en Vin Diesel is up for some role in the new Warhammer 40k show...it's already ruined in my eyes...what do you think about that,all...f'en Vin Diesel...I MEAN COME ON!

Vin will be perfectly hammy for a 40k show though. Why the hate? He already did some good sci-fi films.

because there making it to Hollywood...it should take the example of the original Star Wars ep 4. with a kind of well known actor and the rest no names...when you start putting in Vin Diesels who's going to be next? Sly Stallone...you get me?
..and lets face it, can Vin even do a English accent? I mean the characters WIILL need to be speaking like Brits after all.

 ratlaw wrote:

because there making it to Hollywood...it should take the example of the original Star Wars ep 4. with a kind of well known actor and the rest no names...when you start putting in Vin Diesels who's going to be next? Sly Stallone...you get me?
..and lets face it, can Vin even do a English accent? I mean the characters WIILL need to be speaking like Brits after all.

The Rock will be next.

I just had a neat idea (not sure if someone already thought of this)... The show could be about an Inquisitor or Rouge Trader exploring the depths of a Blackstone Fortress.

It could be like Lost in space. Not "Lost in Space", but Lost, but in space. HAHAHA.

All I know is in one of the Cavill interviews out there on youtube, when asked he says in so many words "but why a mere inquisitor?, when there's so much more"