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XV8 Crisis Suit Flechette Blaster-Costs 5/10/15 points, can be taken as a normal weapon choice on Crisis Suits, including Bodyguards and Commanders.
Range.....12"
Type........Assault 3
Strength..4
AP..........-1
Damage..1

Range.....Melee
Type........Melee
Strength..4
AP..........-1
Damage..1
Make three extra attacks with this weapon each time the bearer fights.

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XV25 Stealth Suit Flechette Blaster-Costs no points, can be take in place of a Burst Cannon on Stealth Suits.
Range.....12"
Type........Assault 2
Strength..4
AP..........-1
Damage..1

Range.....Melee
Type........Melee
Strength..4
AP..........-1
Damage..1
Make two extra attacks with this weapon each time the bearer fights.

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XV95 Ghostkeel Flechette Blaster-Costs no points each, can be taken as shoulder mounts (replacing the Flamers) on a Ghostkeel.
Range.....12"
Type........Assault 3
Strength..5
AP..........-1
Damage..1

Range.....Melee
Type........Melee
Strength..5
AP..........-1
Damage..1
Make three extra attacks with this weapon each time the bearer fights.

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XV88 Broadside Twin Flechette Blaster-Costs 5 points and can be taken on a Broadside as a shoulder mount. Mutually exclusive with the Plasma and Smart Missiles.
Range.....18"
Type........Assault 4
Strength..5
AP..........-1
Damage..1

Range.....Melee
Type........Melee
Strength..5
AP..........-1
Damage..1
Make four extra attacks with this weapon each time the bearer fights.

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XV104 Riptide Flechette Blaster-Costs no points each and is taken in place of the Plasma Rifles.
Range.....12"
Type........Assault 4
Strength..5
AP..........-1
Damage..1

Range.....Melee
Type........Melee
Strength..5
AP..........-1
Damage..1
Make four extra attacks with this weapon each time the bearer fights.

These don't really do anything the Burst Cannon or SMS doesn't already do better. I like the concept and think Tau should have some melee capabilities but I'd never swap out the Plasma for this as it stands.

 Valkyrie wrote:
These don't really do anything the Burst Cannon or SMS doesn't already do better. I like the concept and think Tau should have some melee capabilities but I'd never swap out the Plasma for this as it stands.

Think making them cheaper or better is the best option?

 JNAProductions wrote:

 Valkyrie wrote:
These don't really do anything the Burst Cannon or SMS doesn't already do better. I like the concept and think Tau should have some melee capabilities but I'd never swap out the Plasma for this as it stands.

Think making them cheaper or better is the best option?

My gut says cheaper. As-is, I'd maybe consider taking one of these as the third weapon on a crisis suit for when I inevitably get caught up in melee. They'd be competing with flamers as my charge deterrant/cheap short-ranged weapon. Making them better risks making them overlap too much with flamers. Making them cheaper makes them more tempting as, "that third option you take when you've already grabbed your long-range anti-tank guns."

Dropping the price of the crisis flechettes by 5 or maybe even 10 points would also maybe tempt me to field a squad with flechettes coming out the ears. The (relatively) low cost and raw number of attacks would give such a unit a role as objective takers while the short range and and limited number of shooting attacks would keep them from overlapping too much with flamers or airburst missiles.

 JNAProductions wrote:

 Valkyrie wrote:
These don't really do anything the Burst Cannon or SMS doesn't already do better. I like the concept and think Tau should have some melee capabilities but I'd never swap out the Plasma for this as it stands.

Think making them cheaper or better is the best option?

Or you could just look back at when Flechette Dispensers were a thing for Tau vehicles and work from there, rather than mucking about with this?

Make it a system upgrade, can't be taken if shield is taken blahblahblah.

Deals a certain amount of damage when attacked in CC.

Bam, job's a good one.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 JNAProductions wrote:

 Valkyrie wrote:
These don't really do anything the Burst Cannon or SMS doesn't already do better. I like the concept and think Tau should have some melee capabilities but I'd never swap out the Plasma for this as it stands.

Think making them cheaper or better is the best option?

Or you could just look back at when Flechette Dispensers were a thing for Tau vehicles and work from there, rather than mucking about with this?

Make it a system upgrade, can't be taken if shield is taken blahblahblah.

Deals a certain amount of damage when attacked in CC.

Bam, job's a good one.

The last time Flechette Dispensers were a thing was, if I recall correctly, 7th Edition.
I don't have that Codex.

And why would it be mutually exclusive with a shield?

Finally, I really don't want this to be Mortal Wounds. Advanced flechette systems are certainly dangerous, but they're not "Bypass all toughness and saves" dangerous.

 JNAProductions wrote:
The last time Flechette Dispensers were a thing was, if I recall correctly, 7th Edition.
I don't have that Codex.

And why would it be mutually exclusive with a shield?

Because it's a defensive system, intended to be used as a close-in "scatter" weapon?
Those "domes" are the flechette dischargers from back in the day.

Finally, I really don't want this to be Mortal Wounds. Advanced flechette systems are certainly dangerous, but they're not "Bypass all toughness and saves" dangerous.

Then what's the point?

Your idea is just yet another piddly weapon except this time it can be melee too?

Having it be an alternative option to tankiness with a shield generator is far, far more interesting on suits.

Then write up your suggestion.
I would like Flechette to be a weapon option.

As per Wyldhunt's suggestion, I dropped the price. They're all 5 points cheaper now, so some of them are free.