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"Seeker Cadre: At the start of the first battle round, before the first turn begins, this unit, or the ANATHEMA PSYKANA TRANSPORT it is embarked within, can make a Normal Move of up to 6" as if it were your Movement phase. This unit must end that move more than 9" away from any enemy models. If both players have units that can do this, the player who is taking the first turn moves their units first."

You can't ove one rhino twice, right?

Correct. Even if there are 2 units in the Rhino, you are only allowed to move the Rhino once.

 alextroy wrote:
Correct. Even if there are 2 units in the Rhino, you are only allowed to move the Rhino once.

Why ? Is there any rule prohibiting to make a normal move twice in the movement phase ? I dont see any. Its a stratagem which isnt played during a phase, therefore its not limited by the once per phase rule. It can be played twice on the same rhino.

 p5freak wrote:

 alextroy wrote:
Correct. Even if there are 2 units in the Rhino, you are only allowed to move the Rhino once.

Why ? Is there any rule prohibiting to make a normal move twice in the movement phase ? I dont see any. Its a stratagem which isnt played during a phase, therefore its not limited by the once per phase rule. It can be played twice on the same rhino.

It's not a stratagem.

Ok, forget everything i said, i confused it for a stratagem

This is obviously unintentional but I'm not sure if anything directly forbids it.

Rhino goes double wroom. Cool.

I agree it probably is not the intension. But I think it is RAW.

 Niiai wrote:
Rhino goes double wroom. Cool.

I agree it probably is not the intension. But I think it is RAW.

No, if you have two units embaked on a rhino, and you make a Normal Move of up to 6" as if it were your Movement phase once, then that is it, you cant move twice.

The rule says "can make a Normal Move of up to 6" as if it were your Movement phase"

Unit A and Unit B have this rule. They are both embarked on Rhino X. If Rhino X makes a Normal Move of up to 6" as if it were your Movement phase you check unit A, condition fulfilled, Check unit B condition also fulfilled as the unit made a Normal Move of up to 6" as if it were your Movement phase which satisfies both rules.

I agree 100% that this only allows for a single move because you can only select a unit to move once during the movement phase.
Can it then move normally during the actual movement phase?

BossSkuzzbag wrote:
I agree 100% that this only allows for a single move because you can only select a unit to move once during the movement phase.
Can it then move normally during the actual movement phase?

Why would it not be able to move normally during the actual movement phase? The movement "At the start of the first battle round, before the first turn begins" has nothing to do with the first movement phase.

Mostly I just wanted to say that in so many words.

"Seeker Cadre: At the start of the first battle round, before the first turn begins, this unit, or the ANATHEMA PSYKANA TRANSPORT it is embarked within, can make a Normal Move of up to 6" as if it were your Movement phase. This unit must end that move more than 9" away from any enemy models. If both players have units that can do this, the player who is taking the first turn moves their units first."

Squad 1 triggers and move the rhino. Squad 2 triggers and move the same rhino. It is a premissive rule sett and the quated rule above permits it. No other rule prevents it. Seems quite clear RAW to me.

BossSkuzzbag wrote:
I agree 100% that this only allows for a single move because you can only select a unit to move once during the movement phase.
Can it then move normally during the actual movement phase?

You can only select it once to move in the movement phase, but there is no rule prohibiting to move twice in the movement phase. Seeker cadre is a special rule overriding general rules. As both rules are happening at the same time you would use sequencing.

By moving it 6" you satisfy both instances if the rules.

No. Because of sequencing one unit moves first, then the other moves after that.

 p5freak wrote:
No. Because of sequencing one unit moves first, then the other moves after that.

Except there is only one unit moving...

Screw it. Crack on. Move twice. You’ll be exposed and chargeable/shootable with little support.

Not sure we need a rules resolution. Just kill the units that ended up stupidly close to you, or use them for free movement in your Charge Phase. Punish dogmatic pedantry with logical counterplay. Sorted.

 DeathReaper wrote:

 p5freak wrote:
No. Because of sequencing one unit moves first, then the other moves after that.

Except there is only one unit moving...

Yes, only the transport moves, but both seeker cadre rules must be resolved.

By moving it 6" you satisfy both instances of both rules.

 DeathReaper wrote:
By moving it 6" you satisfy both instances of both rules.

No, because they must be resolved sequentially.

 p5freak wrote:

 DeathReaper wrote:
By moving it 6" you satisfy both instances of both rules.

No, because they must be resolved sequentially.

False statement here.

Both rules say "or the ANATHEMA PSYKANA TRANSPORT it is embarked within, can make a Normal Move of up to 6" as if it were your Movement phase."

If the transport moved 6 inches, the ANATHEMA PSYKANA TRANSPORT has made a Normal Move of up to 6" as if it were your Movement phase.

So it satisfies both rules.

And then you trigger the rule again and you move again.

If you have a rule that says that you fight twice, or shoot twice you do not do it once and then say yes, that was twice.

 Niiai wrote:
And then you trigger the rule again and you move again.

No, as moving 6 inches satisfies both rules.

 DeathReaper wrote:

 Niiai wrote:
And then you trigger the rule again and you move again.

No, as moving 6 inches satisfies both rules.

Except you cannot resolve both rules at the same time. If two or more rules happen at the same time, sequencing comes into play and the player whose turn it is decides the order. If its neither players turn the players rolls off and the winner decides the order, which doesnt matter in this case.

SEQUENCING
While playing Warhammer 40,000, you’ll occasionally find that two or more rules are to be resolved at the same time – e.g. ‘at the start of the battle round’ or ‘at the end of the Fight phase’. When this happens during the battle, the player whose turn it is chooses the order. If these things occur before or after the battle, or at the start or end of a battle round, the players roll off and the winner decides in what order the rules are resolved.

No one said to resolve both rules at the same time.

But the transport moving 6" satisfies both rules.

The rules say to "make a Normal Move of up to 6""

If you move more than 6 inches, you have violated this rule.

 DeathReaper wrote:
No one said to resolve both rules at the same time.

But the transport moving 6" satisfies both rules.

The rules say to "make a Normal Move of up to 6""

If you move more than 6 inches, you have violated this rule.

I dont think that's quite right because its two separate triggers of up to 6" move, not a single 12" one.

 DeathReaper wrote:
No one said to resolve both rules at the same time.

The rule itself says this. Both happen "At the start of the first battle round, before the first turn begins...". And because its not possible to do both rules at the same time sequencing comes into play.

Normal GW ruling is you can't invoke the same ability, by name, multiple times on a unit from different sources. Of course, they only bother to put this in the rules regarding Auras, so YMMV.

 alextroy wrote:
Normal GW ruling is you can't invoke the same ability, by name, multiple times on a unit from different sources. Of course, they only bother to put this in the rules regarding Auras, so YMMV.

Except that the rules usually say something like a unit can only be affected once per turn/battle round. I dont see anything like that in the seeker cadre rule.

Blessing of the Omnissiah: At the end of your Movement phase, this model can repair one friendly IRON HANDS VEHICLE model within 3" of it. That VEHICLE model regains up to D3 lost wounds. Each model can only be repaired once per turn.

Awaken the Machine Spirits: In your Command phase, this model can awaken one friendly IRON HANDS VEHICLE model within 3" of it. Until the start of your next Command phase, each time that Vehicle model makes a ranged attack, add 1 to that attack’s hit roll. Each model can only be awakened once per turn.

Good grief barking the same thing back and forth isn’t a discussion.

Alextroy hits the nail on the head. They baked an FAQ into the rules for 9th but only made it apply to Auras and Strats but this is an Ability.
Do whatever you feel most fun. If someone insists on it let them, then obliterate the units who are now very far from any kind of support. It’s not the killer play folks think it is. Let them roll and let their player pick the models up again T1.