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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/17 16:19:07
Subject: "Zeo Genesis" by Best Hobby Games
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
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Just crossed my desk, but I can't find any info on it anywhere (outside of a 1MAR trademark filing), so figured I'd add it here.
Best Hobby Games is a brand new company out of Raleigh, NC creating a Sci Fi game "Zeo Genesis."
What makes it stand out to me is that the game design is by Andy Chambers, and narrative design by Gav Thorpe. Both will be at Adepticon next week, demoing their new game and miniatures.
Anyone dig up any other info?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/17 16:28:26
Subject: "Zeo Genesis" by Best Hobby Games
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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KillerAngel wrote:Just crossed my desk, but I can't find any info on it anywhere (outside of a 1MAR trademark filing), so figured I'd add it here.
Best Hobby Games is a brand new company out of Raleigh, NC creating a Sci Fi game "Zeo Genesis."
What makes it stand out to me is that the game design is by Andy Chambers, and narrative design by Gav Thorpe. Both will be at Adepticon next week, demoing their new game and miniatures.
Anyone dig up any other info?
I can only say that they took an impressive jab at getting the most generic-sounding, non google-able name for their game humans could possibly imagine
The rest of it sounds interesting, we'll see what they actually came up with at Adepticon.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/17 18:34:18
Subject: "Zeo Genesis" by Best Hobby Games
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Charging Dragon Prince
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Agreed. Very generic name.
Interesting that a small start up company already owns the machinery to make hard plastic minis. Keeping that in house should help to alleviate a lot of production woes like what Privateer Press faced when they tried to go to plastic.
Absolute lack of any info about the game makes it hard to really be interested though, so hoping their booth and demo games at GenCon really hit a home run for them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/17 19:42:56
Subject: Re:"Zeo Genesis" by Best Hobby Games
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler
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Oooh ! Can't wait for their first game: Zeo Genesis Evangelion 0.1 You can (not) finish painting your minis.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/17 19:53:13
Subject: "Zeo Genesis" by Best Hobby Games
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Been Around the Block
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KillerAngel wrote:
What makes it stand out to me is that the game design is by Andy Chambers, and narrative design by Gav Thorpe. Both will be at Adepticon next week, demoing their new game and miniatures.
Singling out design by Andy Chambers could be a selling point, but has anyone ever said to themselves, "You know what this new IP needs to get it over the top? Narrative design by Gav Thorpe!"?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/17 19:57:20
Subject: "Zeo Genesis" by Best Hobby Games
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Foxy Wildborne
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No but seriously is it gonna be non-IP infringing Evangelion? I would play the feth out of an Andy Chambers kaiju game.
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/17 20:03:12
Subject: "Zeo Genesis" by Best Hobby Games
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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lord_blackfang wrote:No but seriously is it gonna be non-IP infringing Evangelion? I would play the feth out of an Andy Chambers kaiju game.
Signs point to 'Yes', their lead art dude is Dan Morison, who has, among others, done a lot of Art for LANCER: https://massifpress.com/lancer
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/17 22:39:45
Subject: "Zeo Genesis" by Best Hobby Games
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler
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lord_blackfang wrote:No but seriously is it gonna be non-IP infringing Evangelion? I would play the feth out of an Andy Chambers kaiju game.
Couldn't agree more !
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/18 04:30:42
Subject: Re:"Zeo Genesis" by Best Hobby Games
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Experienced Saurus Scar-Veteran
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If it gets me Lancer- style ridiculous mechs, I'm in.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/20 19:24:05
Subject: Re:"Zeo Genesis" by Best Hobby Games
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Screamin' Stormboy
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There looks to be some art and a logo up at their twitter: https://twitter.com/zeo_genesis
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/20 19:30:07
Subject: "Zeo Genesis" by Best Hobby Games
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Foxy Wildborne
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So looks like Heavy Gear-ish mechs
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/20 19:32:27
Subject: "Zeo Genesis" by Best Hobby Games
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Screamin' Stormboy
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Or, if it's like Gundam, this could be just one style of many. Might be a Zaku-analogue?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/20 19:35:29
Subject: "Zeo Genesis" by Best Hobby Games
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Foxy Wildborne
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Sure, but it's also the size. Defo looks like the "barely larger than a power suit" type.
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/20 19:43:52
Subject: Re:"Zeo Genesis" by Best Hobby Games
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/20 19:45:38
Subject: "Zeo Genesis" by Best Hobby Games
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Monster Apoc as a game has done well (though I've heard the KS for it has hit huge financial problems due to the parent company doing it - which isn't PP); though its always had a cartoony style to the models. So there'd 100% be space in the market for a giant mecha/monster serious artistic take game.
AT has also done really well despite being mirror match and is the same big-mechs battling game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/20 19:49:01
Subject: "Zeo Genesis" by Best Hobby Games
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Foxy Wildborne
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Definitely room on the market for several more mech games in various combinations of mech size, design style, game scale, play style...
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/20 19:50:58
Subject: Re:"Zeo Genesis" by Best Hobby Games
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Screamin' Stormboy
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For me, the magic words are "hard plastic". Is there any mecha game that's currently like that, other than AT?
I'm a big mecha wonk, and already a fan of the Lancer designs; this is going to be the first booth I hit at adepticon, I'm just so dang curious.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/20 22:37:10
Subject: Re:"Zeo Genesis" by Best Hobby Games
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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faeslayer wrote:For me, the magic words are "hard plastic". Is there any mecha game that's currently like that, other than AT?
I'm a big mecha wonk, and already a fan of the Lancer designs; this is going to be the first booth I hit at adepticon, I'm just so dang curious.
Well, there's Heavy Gear, but the polar factions' sprues are singularly horrible.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/21 08:00:42
Subject: "Zeo Genesis" by Best Hobby Games
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Veteran Knight Baron in a Crusader
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Color me interested. The mechs and art style are very cool.
The quality of the minis will make or break this - of they can capture that style...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/21 10:44:52
Subject: Re:"Zeo Genesis" by Best Hobby Games
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Foxy Wildborne
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faeslayer wrote:For me, the magic words are "hard plastic". Is there any mecha game that's currently like that, other than AT?
Well you can play with Gundams
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/21 15:04:01
Subject: Re:"Zeo Genesis" by Best Hobby Games
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler
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Still waiting for someone to cook up some custom game where you use HG's as oversized minis
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/21 15:22:12
Subject: Re:"Zeo Genesis" by Best Hobby Games
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
The dark hollows of Kentucky
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They had my interest at: Andy Chambers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/21 15:43:48
Subject: Re:"Zeo Genesis" by Best Hobby Games
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/21 18:31:32
Subject: "Zeo Genesis" by Best Hobby Games
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Did Fulgrim Just Behead Ferrus?
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Apparently Dan Morison is also attached to this project ( link), he did some artwork for GW in the past (Chaos Knights and Genestealer Cults animated stuff if I'm not mistaken).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/21 20:37:04
Subject: "Zeo Genesis" by Best Hobby Games
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Foxy Wildborne
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My bothan spies bring these images from Best Hobby Games' twitter
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/21 21:32:06
Subject: "Zeo Genesis" by Best Hobby Games
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Those look like 3D prints with a fair bit of support scarring. Gun arm looks very interesting and if they are working in plastics then these might well just be test models from the 3D designs (I'd assume the moulds would be made from CAD rather than master resin models)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/21 23:33:10
Subject: Re:"Zeo Genesis" by Best Hobby Games
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Those are 3-D Prints, all of our Adepticon demo minis are. Preform did a terrible job of calling out the mini collision in that print.
Booth #915 if you want to come by and see us. It will be fairly low key; starter set and first expansion miniatures and tons of playtest/demos in Adventure Hall.
Andy & Gav on hand for both.
Yes to hard plastic, modularity, etc.
Don't pin your hopes on kaiju, but more details to come.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/21 23:36:09
Subject: Re:"Zeo Genesis" by Best Hobby Games
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler
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Sigh... Now I have to convinces someone at my FLGS to try it with me.
Thanks though ! Automatically Appended Next Post: BestHobby wrote:Those are 3-D Prints, all of our Adepticon demo minis are. Preform did a terrible job of calling out the mini collision in that print.
Booth #915 if you want to come by and see us. It will be fairly low key; starter set and first expansion miniatures and tons of playtest/demos in Adventure Hall.
Andy & Gav on hand for both.
Yes to hard plastic, modularity, etc.
Don't pin your hopes on kaiju, but more details to come.
Nice ! Really exited to learn more !
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/22 02:47:10
Subject: Re:"Zeo Genesis" by Best Hobby Games
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Charging Dragon Prince
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https://mobilesuitskirmish.proboards.com/thread/219/mobile-suit-skirmish-rulebook-version
This is the "second edition" of the game made with Donkus' blessing. Anybody who goes into that game with a more casual versus competitive mindset will be able to play some genuinely thematic and fun games.
Liking more and more of what I see with Zero Genesis though, starting to give me a more VOTOMS vibe with what I can glance of the mechs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/25 15:23:24
Subject: Re:"Zeo Genesis" by Best Hobby Games
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Fresh-Faced New User
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BestHobby wrote:Those are 3-D Prints, all of our Adepticon demo minis are. Preform did a terrible job of calling out the mini collision in that print.
Booth #915 if you want to come by and see us. It will be fairly low key; starter set and first expansion miniatures and tons of playtest/demos in Adventure Hall.
Andy & Gav on hand for both.
Yes to hard plastic, modularity, etc.
Don't pin your hopes on kaiju, but more details to come.
I was able to go by the booth and loved what I saw, then headed out to the floor and watched a demo game.
It played fast, had mechanics I could pick up on as a bystander, and I loved the card terrain/boards.
Got to chat up Gav after the game and then Andy a bit later... this thing has serious potential and is a sleeper hit!
Gav told me about how Andy got him on board Zeo Genesis during Covid lockdown and we discussed how difficult things have been over the past few years as well as how wonderful it is to be able to travel again and talk face to face without masks. Gav also told me about the scalability of the game... you can quickly start off with the initial set for a good 1v1 skirmish, then add sets/more forces to expand your table into bigger armies or 1v2 / 2v2 very easily.
Andy told me this is the first game he's worked on that has him "truly excited" since his work on Dropfleet Commander - and as a big Dropfleet fan I think that's a good thing!! He said it was so refreshing to work on "stompy robots that could actually happen" or something along those lines... as a Dropfleet fan my head was back there for a moment.
Anyway, this is an insta-buy for me when it comes out and I recommend y'all look closely at it.
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