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Unit A and B charge unit X lead by Y.

Unit B make base to base contact with character Y. Both A and B makes the charge. Unit A kills unit X but not the leader Y. Can unit B attack the now lone character?

If a model is of board. Can I use his abilities? Like targeting a Captain with the rapid deployment stratagem for 0 CP.

Can a unit like the callidus Assassin increase the cost of a stratagem while she is in deep strike.

If the callidus increases the cost of a stratagem and later dies, is the tax stil in effect?

1) Yes.
2) I know this isn’t a genuine question and is fishing for advantage, as I’m sure you know all precedent is that units off the board can’t use abilities. Well done for spotting it’s not expressly called out anywhere I can find, but you know the way to play it. Don’t be That Guy and try it on an opponent!
3) See 2.
4) Nothing says the effect stops so it persists.

I've been trying to find this well hidden little item for a while now and finally did.

designer's commentary wrote:Reserves Units: Any unit that starts the battle in a location other than the battlefield, and is not embarked within a Transport that starts the battle on the battlefield, is considered to be a Reserves unit. When a Reserves unit is set up on the battlefield, it counts as having made a Normal move that phase. Any Reserves units that have not been set up on the battlefield by the end of the battle count as destroyed. Units can still use rules and abilities while in Reserves.

Codifies using abilities while chilling in reserves.

I then went through my preferred factions trying to find ways to abuse this, sadly the Tallyman has a "while on the battlefield" rider to his CP regen, but I notice the Ethereal doesn't! 50 points to sit in reserves for 3 turns, farm 1.5 CP then show up and do a secondary, worth it?

 Niiai wrote:
If a model is of board. Can I use his abilities? Like targeting a Captain with the rapid deployment stratagem for 0 CP.

GW failed to provide a concrete rule on this. There are a number of abilities that explicitly allow them to be used when a model is not deployed to the battlefield, such as the deployment abilities. There are also stratagems that allow you to target units that are not deployed to the battlefield.

Until they fix this oversight, I would err on not allowing an ability to be used when not deployed unless it explicitly says so or directly interacts with a normal rule.

For example, I would actually allow the use of Rites of Battle to reduce the cost of Rapid Deployment on a Captain's unit, even if your only Captain is the one in Reserves. I would allow only because the ability works on his unit that you are legally targeting with the stratagem.

Thanks eightfold path.

JohnnyHell do you know where in the rules it says I can attack the character? I assume it is because they are part of the unit when I charge them. But I can not find anything to back it up once they split into a seperate unit

You don't need to have charged unit to attack. Just be in range


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 alextroy wrote:

 Niiai wrote:
If a model is of board. Can I use his abilities? Like targeting a Captain with the rapid deployment stratagem for 0 CP.

GW failed to provide a concrete rule on this. There are a number of abilities that explicitly allow them to be used when a model is not deployed to the battlefield, such as the deployment abilities. There are also stratagems that allow you to target units that are not deployed to the battlefield.

Until they fix this oversight, I would err on not allowing an ability to be used when not deployed unless it explicitly says so or directly interacts with a normal rule.

For example, I would actually allow the use of Rites of Battle to reduce the cost of Rapid Deployment on a Captain's unit, even if your only Captain is the one in Reserves. I would allow only because the ability works on his unit that you are legally targeting with the stratagem.

Failed? They explicly said rules and abilities can be used while in reserve...

tneva82 wrote:
You don't need to have charged unit to attack. Just be in range


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 alextroy wrote:

 Niiai wrote:
If a model is of board. Can I use his abilities? Like targeting a Captain with the rapid deployment stratagem for 0 CP.

GW failed to provide a concrete rule on this. There are a number of abilities that explicitly allow them to be used when a model is not deployed to the battlefield, such as the deployment abilities. There are also stratagems that allow you to target units that are not deployed to the battlefield.

Until they fix this oversight, I would err on not allowing an ability to be used when not deployed unless it explicitly says so or directly interacts with a normal rule.

For example, I would actually allow the use of Rites of Battle to reduce the cost of Rapid Deployment on a Captain's unit, even if your only Captain is the one in Reserves. I would allow only because the ability works on his unit that you are legally targeting with the stratagem.

Failed? They explicly said rules and abilities can be used while in reserve...

WHAT?! That rule is gone?!

That can only attack what you charged?

Yes.

Of course being in range to units you didn't charge is harder in 10e than in 9e

EightFoldPath wrote:
I've been trying to find this well hidden little item for a while now and finally did.

designer's commentary wrote:Reserves Units: Any unit that starts the battle in a location other than the battlefield, and is not embarked within a Transport that starts the battle on the battlefield, is considered to be a Reserves unit. When a Reserves unit is set up on the battlefield, it counts as having made a Normal move that phase. Any Reserves units that have not been set up on the battlefield by the end of the battle count as destroyed. Units can still use rules and abilities while in Reserves.

Codifies using abilities while chilling in reserves.

I then went through my preferred factions trying to find ways to abuse this, sadly the Tallyman has a "while on the battlefield" rider to his CP regen, but I notice the Ethereal doesn't! 50 points to sit in reserves for 3 turns, farm 1.5 CP then show up and do a secondary, worth it?

Woah good to know! I recant my former snark!

I knew that was in there but couldn't find it!

Some abilities like tson cabal points also specify on the battlefield.