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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/07/11 18:56:27
Subject: 10th - Abaddon and "Dark Destiny". Model vs. Model's Unit verbiage.
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Sinister Chaos Marine
Spartanburg, South Carolina
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Maybe this more cut and dry than I think it is but...
Dark Destiny: Each time this ***model*** makes a Dark Pact and does not fail the resulting Leadership test, roll on D6: on a 2+, you gain 1CP.
Awesome and fairly self explanatory right?
Except take a look at the Exalted Champion's ability "Aspire to Glory": Each time this ***model's unit**** makes a Dark Pact, until the end of the phase, add D3 to the Strength characteristics of weapons equipped by this model.
So GW is making clear distinctions between individual models and model's units with certain abilities and how they interact with Dark Pacts. With Abaddon (seemingly) handing out all 4 marks to his bodyguard, and giving rerolls of leadership & battleshock to a unit of terminators, and without look out sir and with him being much more susceptible to damage in 10th, running him solo is practically unthinkable (to me personally at least.)
Do you think it is GWs intention for Abby only to be able to regen CP if his operating by himself as a standalone model/unit, or do you think this an error...that he was intended to be able to regen CP even when he has a bodyguard / attached unit? Are there nuances here or is it RAW.
Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/07/11 19:03:41
Subject: Re:10th - Abaddon and "Dark Destiny". Model vs. Model's Unit verbiage.
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Dakka Veteran
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A unit with one model is still a unit. If Abaddon is on his own then his unit is himself.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/07/11 19:05:13
Subject: Re:10th - Abaddon and "Dark Destiny". Model vs. Model's Unit verbiage.
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Sinister Chaos Marine
Spartanburg, South Carolina
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Bilge Rat wrote:A unit with one model is still a unit. If Abaddon is on his own then his unit is himself.
for sure! No disputing that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/07/11 21:55:36
Subject: 10th - Abaddon and "Dark Destiny". Model vs. Model's Unit verbiage.
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[DCM]
Tzeentch's Fan Girl
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If he's in a unit, and the unit makes a Dark Pact, he himself is still making a Dark Pact.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/07/11 22:19:56
Subject: Re:10th - Abaddon and "Dark Destiny". Model vs. Model's Unit verbiage.
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Confessor Of Sins
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Models don't make Dark Pacts, units do. Even if a unit of one model makes a Dark Pact, it is still as a unit rather than a model.
I would therefore play it as "if Abaddon's unit makes a Dark Pact...". They will be using his superior Leadership afterall.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/07/11 23:19:57
Subject: Re:10th - Abaddon and "Dark Destiny". Model vs. Model's Unit verbiage.
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Sinister Chaos Marine
Spartanburg, South Carolina
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alextroy wrote:Models don't make Dark Pacts, units do. Even if a unit of one model makes a Dark Pact, it is still as a unit rather than a model.
I would therefore play it as "if Abaddon's unit makes a Dark Pact...". They will be using his superior Leadership afterall.
that ain’t a bad observation… but why wouldn't GW just write “when this unit makes a dark pact”
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/07/12 09:20:07
Subject: Re:10th - Abaddon and "Dark Destiny". Model vs. Model's Unit verbiage.
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[DCM]
Tzeentch's Fan Girl
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Kangarupe wrote: alextroy wrote:Models don't make Dark Pacts, units do. Even if a unit of one model makes a Dark Pact, it is still as a unit rather than a model.
I would therefore play it as "if Abaddon's unit makes a Dark Pact...". They will be using his superior Leadership afterall.
that ain’t a bad observation… but why wouldn't GW just write “when this unit makes a dark pact”
🤔
Or, "When this model's unit..."?
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