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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/08/06 10:17:16
Subject: Astra Militarum HWT
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Dakka Veteran
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Morning all,
Having taken a 40k hiatus, I have noticed that the HWT are now on 50mm bases. I am not sure on the rules for 40k base sizes, but does this mean I need to swap all my current teams over to 50mm bases?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/08/06 10:22:06
Subject: Astra Militarum HWT
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Yes, no, maybe
So in general within the rules of the game the base size DOES impact the performance of a model and how it plays in the game.
For some game clubs and games the nature of them is more casual and rebasing isn't generally required.
For some game clubs people want more official standard games so people want models on the correct base size.
For competitive events base sizes generally have to be correct.
Note that when going from a smaller base to a bigger one you can sometimes get around having to rebase. There are base extenders on the market that just glue onto the rim to expand a base; you can also glue one base atop another; since height, whilst oft having an impact, is generally less of an impact than base size in the game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/08/06 10:37:30
Subject: Astra Militarum HWT
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Overread wrote:Yes, no, maybe
So in general within the rules of the game the base size DOES impact the performance of a model and how it plays in the game.
For some game clubs and games the nature of them is more casual and rebasing isn't generally required.
For some game clubs people want more official standard games so people want models on the correct base size.
For competitive events base sizes generally have to be correct.
Note that when going from a smaller base to a bigger one you can sometimes get around having to rebase. There are base extenders on the market that just glue onto the rim to expand a base; you can also glue one base atop another; since height, whilst oft having an impact, is generally less of an impact than base size in the game.
Thanks for the response. I kind of assumed that would be the case, I suppose I was hoping I could avoid ragging off the models to drop them onto another base. I understand why they have done it, as the 60mm bases were surplus to requirement in terms of space the model needs, and any realistic footprint it would have. Nonetheless, it's a tedious task added to the list of things to do.
Thanks again though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/08/12 11:31:22
Subject: Astra Militarum HWT
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Space Marine Scout with Sniper Rifle
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You can probably mount the gun to the large base and set the crew on it as well without rebasing them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/08/12 15:01:00
Subject: Astra Militarum HWT
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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You can get flexible sandbags in scale and use those to delineate the 50mm size.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/08/12 16:19:25
Subject: Astra Militarum HWT
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I've got various HWT from 5th edition, my approach to rebasing them is the same as my approach to rebasing every other model I have
It ain't happening
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/08/12 16:55:05
Subject: Re:Astra Militarum HWT
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Pious Palatine
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Get a flat 50mm diameter disk. Paint it to match your model's bases. Place, not glue, your models onto the base when you game with blue tack. Easy updated basing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/08/12 17:23:22
Subject: Re:Astra Militarum HWT
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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alextroy wrote:Get a flat 50mm diameter disk. Paint it to match your model's bases. Place, not glue, your models onto the base when you game with blue tack. Easy updated basing.
that works with stuff that was on a smaller base, less so with stuff that was on 60mm
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/08/12 18:36:56
Subject: Astra Militarum HWT
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Killer Klaivex
The dark behind the eyes.
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leopard wrote:I've got various HWT from 5th edition, my approach to rebasing them is the same as my approach to rebasing every other model I have
It ain't happening
This.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/08/12 18:38:05
Subject: Re:Astra Militarum HWT
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Pious Palatine
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leopard wrote: alextroy wrote:Get a flat 50mm diameter disk. Paint it to match your model's bases. Place, not glue, your models onto the base when you game with blue tack. Easy updated basing.
that works with stuff that was on a smaller base, less so with stuff that was on 60mm
If it is on a 60mm, I'd just leave it alone.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/08/12 20:52:13
Subject: Astra Militarum HWT
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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vipoid wrote:leopard wrote:I've got various HWT from 5th edition, my approach to rebasing them is the same as my approach to rebasing every other model I have
It ain't happening
This.
same as orc infantry, I have a mix of 25mm and 32mm, same as a lot of AoS stuff that is on square 20mm bases, same as a lot of my 40k CSM who are on 25mm round
models get whatever was current when they were built, a sabot for a larger size is a maybe, but it will be held on with PVA or similar, and undecorated, if base sizes go smaller, no chance, and if its an "issue", well I guess GW won't be selling me more from that faction
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/08/13 19:00:50
Subject: Astra Militarum HWT
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The expectation that players have the 'correct' base size when the base size isn't even stated in the rules is fething ridiculous.
Double fething ridiculous when you're then expected to use a webstore to figure out the right size, except half the time the webstore doesn't tell you either, and some kits come with different base sizes seemingly at random, so basically it's a giant mess.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/08/13 19:44:14
Subject: Astra Militarum HWT
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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catbarf wrote:The expectation that players have the 'correct' base size when the base size isn't even stated in the rules is fething ridiculous.
Double fething ridiculous when you're then expected to use a webstore to figure out the right size, except half the time the webstore doesn't tell you either, and some kits come with different base sizes seemingly at random, so basically it's a giant mess.
there is not a single word in your comment with which I have any disagreement
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/08/14 13:24:32
Subject: Re:Astra Militarum HWT
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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Go with what you feel is best. Gw sold you those minis with those bases, and rules don't even discuss base sizes. If you wanna rebase to satisfy some tryhards out there, go for it. If you are content with the bases you have, keep them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/08/14 13:51:19
Subject: Astra Militarum HWT
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Perfect Shot Dark Angels Predator Pilot
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The heavy weapon teams are the worst case, because the 60mm bases allowed to build some cool little dioramas. I won't change mine, and I don't expect anyone to change their bases either. I also believe that the 10th edition rules reduce the impact of base size a bit, so it's less of an issue anyway.
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