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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/26 14:09:16
Subject: GW introduces the "Stormvault Skirmish Case"
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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Give Your Miniatures a Better Saving Throw With the Forthcoming Stormvault Skirmish Case The case itself measures 278mm x 220mm x 41.5mm, which makes it the right size to bag up for an evening game. The Stormvault Skirmish Case will replace the bulkier Citadel Skirmish Figure Case when it is released, leaving the Citadel Battle Figure Case and Citadel Crusade Figure Case for your heavy duty transport. While it's a better design than the current GW cases, I'm sure it won't be cheap...
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2023/09/26 14:24:28
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/26 14:21:59
Subject: GW introduces the "Stormvault Skirmish Case"
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Interesting idea, but seems like a case of over engineering. Pick and pluck foam still hasn't been beaten.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/26 14:30:13
Subject: GW introduces the "Stormvault Skirmish Case"
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Fixture of Dakka
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Am I expected to carry around of stack of 10 of these or something?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/26 14:31:52
Subject: GW introduces the "Stormvault Skirmish Case"
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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It's for skirmish, not full armies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/26 14:36:43
Subject: GW introduces the "Stormvault Skirmish Case"
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Interesting idea - I guess the bonus is that holding the model directly around things like the base and with those rods instead of foam blocks is designed to reduce the amount of rubbing the model has whilst in transport.
Two downsides of foam have always been both the volume that the foam takes up in the case and also the rubbing that can wear down paint (esp for anyone not using varnishes)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/26 14:37:54
Subject: GW introduces the "Stormvault Skirmish Case"
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Mobile plinko game
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/26 14:59:25
Subject: GW introduces the "Stormvault Skirmish Case"
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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Iron Maiden Handbag.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/26 15:00:12
Subject: GW introduces the "Stormvault Skirmish Case"
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Fixture of Dakka
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Overread wrote:Interesting idea - I guess the bonus is that holding the model directly around things like the base and with those rods instead of foam blocks is designed to reduce the amount of rubbing the model has whilst in transport.
Two downsides of foam have always been both the volume that the foam takes up in the case and also the rubbing that can wear down paint (esp for anyone not using varnishes)
Foam doesn't work great for complex poses unless its cut specifically to the shape of the model.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/26 15:00:46
Subject: GW introduces the "Stormvault Skirmish Case"
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[DCM]
Chief Deputy Sub Assistant Trainee Squig Handling Intern
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Intrigued as to how soft the spiny bits are.
I mean, it sounds good, but if ever painted anything ever, I’d be concerned about them rubbing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/26 15:12:44
Subject: GW introduces the "Stormvault Skirmish Case"
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Not as Good as a Minion
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yeah, Kill Team, Necromunda, Undreworlds and Warcry it will be enough, it is just strange that they use regular AoS and 40k units to show it
LunarSol wrote: Overread wrote:Interesting idea - I guess the bonus is that holding the model directly around things like the base and with those rods instead of foam blocks is designed to reduce the amount of rubbing the model has whilst in transport.
Two downsides of foam have always been both the volume that the foam takes up in the case and also the rubbing that can wear down paint (esp for anyone not using varnishes)
Foam doesn't work great for complex poses unless its cut specifically to the shape of the model.
just from the pic it does not work with complex forms either, there are just 2 layers that are pressed together, same as foam would
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/26 15:12:57
Subject: GW introduces the "Stormvault Skirmish Case"
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I'd never had problems with chipping on metal models until I started using a fancy, foam carrying case. Good that they are working or alternatives.
Unfortunately it seems to be designed NOT to accomodate a full 20-model KT roster. Even fitting 15 operatives inside could prove tricky.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/26 15:16:51
Subject: GW introduces the "Stormvault Skirmish Case"
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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LunarSol wrote: Overread wrote:Interesting idea - I guess the bonus is that holding the model directly around things like the base and with those rods instead of foam blocks is designed to reduce the amount of rubbing the model has whilst in transport. Two downsides of foam have always been both the volume that the foam takes up in the case and also the rubbing that can wear down paint (esp for anyone not using varnishes) Foam doesn't work great for complex poses unless its cut specifically to the shape of the model.
That's not been my experience at all. I use a mix of standard foam and pick-and-pluck trays for all my models and it's the best solution I've found by far, including for complex poses. Especially so, in fact. I can't see how this case is anywhere near as good. All those little rods seem like they'd just get in the way of complicated poses.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/26 15:19:04
Subject: GW introduces the "Stormvault Skirmish Case"
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Fixture of Dakka
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Slipspace wrote: LunarSol wrote: Overread wrote:Interesting idea - I guess the bonus is that holding the model directly around things like the base and with those rods instead of foam blocks is designed to reduce the amount of rubbing the model has whilst in transport.
Two downsides of foam have always been both the volume that the foam takes up in the case and also the rubbing that can wear down paint (esp for anyone not using varnishes)
Foam doesn't work great for complex poses unless its cut specifically to the shape of the model.
That's weird. I use a mix of standard foam and pick-and-pluck trays for all my models and it's the best solution I've found by far, including for complex poses. Especially so, in fact. I can't see how this case is anywhere near as good. All those little rods seem like they'd just get in the way of complicated poses.
I'm all in on the magnet boxes these days, but I agree this doesn't seem particularly functional at all. I also just find foam kind of tricky to reconfigure so I can see the advantages of this, but I don't see it as a real solution.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/26 15:21:57
Subject: GW introduces the "Stormvault Skirmish Case"
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Dominating Dominatrix
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Looks interesting. Now we need to wait for non GW paid reviews to be sure that it works as intended.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/26 15:23:06
Subject: GW introduces the "Stormvault Skirmish Case"
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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My GW carry cases from almost 25 years ago are still going strong...
This looks like an off-season April Fools.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/26 15:29:05
Subject: GW introduces the "Stormvault Skirmish Case"
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Foxy Wildborne
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Hm. I have reservation about this concept, but surely GW tested it for paint rubbing off and stuff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/26 15:29:51
Subject: GW introduces the "Stormvault Skirmish Case"
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Keeper of the Flame
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I'd rather they do a reissue of the double size suitcase with the 6 foam trays but in green.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/26 15:34:42
Subject: GW introduces the "Stormvault Skirmish Case"
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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I have no issue with the current iteration of GW case. The foam works perfectly well with all the plastic Plague Marine/ Deathguard and Primaris models I acquired through a Conquest sub.
For my beloved metal Imperial Guard, it's KR Multicase all the way for me. Those little individual model compartments mean I have very few instances of paint chipping.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/26 16:27:57
Subject: GW introduces the "Stormvault Skirmish Case"
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Regular Dakkanaut
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My issues with foam is where it touches the models. This case just seems like more touching.
I have moved to magnetizing all my models to the bottom of a case and am never going back.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/26 16:32:42
Subject: GW introduces the "Stormvault Skirmish Case"
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Deadly Tomb Guard
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Yeah I've been using foam for years and years now, and cannot see this being any better.
I've been able to fit all kind of models in foam over time, some fiddlier than others. Have used and re-used them over and over, keeping some of the plucked pieces to change the layout is really helpful. Even created brand new layer by just re-using the plucked piece!
Not sure that skirmish-sized force/team where that big of an issue, it's small and relatively easy to transport no matter what method you use. This is probably be quite expensive for that purpose. Still curious about any reviews tho to see how it does.
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Fantasy armies - Retired (Tomb Kings, Vampires, Empire, Chaos Warriors/Daemons, Dark Elves)
Tyranids army - Ever evolving, but about 10k pts
Custodes - 3,500pts (Fully painted yay!)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/26 16:34:20
Subject: GW introduces the "Stormvault Skirmish Case"
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Lol no.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/26 17:02:41
Subject: GW introduces the "Stormvault Skirmish Case"
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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When GW came out with the zig-zag foam, I thought that was an interesting idea.
This? Not so much. Those little finders are going to have to have exactly the right amount of pressure to hold things firmly, but not so much as to damage or rub. And be able to hold minis of assorted size with that exact amount. I don’t think they can.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/26 17:18:08
Subject: GW introduces the "Stormvault Skirmish Case"
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Could be good for Blood Bowl too. Well some teams of 11 or 12 players or Sevens teams I guess. Not sure if big guys fit.
Anyway I like the idea and that they experimented with something different. Would like to see it in real life first though. Stores should have a demo model to try out lol.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/26 17:31:39
Subject: GW introduces the "Stormvault Skirmish Case"
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Speed Drybrushing
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With all the big centre piece models that have been released lately (i.e. Knights) they need to re-release the monster case
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/26 17:39:24
Subject: GW introduces the "Stormvault Skirmish Case"
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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It's an interesting idea. We'll see how well it does. For cases, there's only been like 3 options up till now. Foam, which can take up a lot of space and doesn't work for really delicate models or spiky things and Magnetization which works great for space saving and fiddly models, but requires set-up to prepare your army for. and the 'shoe box' which is where you just throw all your models in a cardboard box and pray they make the journey Now there's this, silicone that wont rub paint off like foam but allow space for spiky bits. It's a middle ground thing that probably could only work on the small scale like this. Still, the previous zig-zag foam case could hold 2-3 kill teams, whereas this can only hold maybe 1...? Seems like a downgrade in terms of space, and if it's typical GW pricing scheme it's going to be more expensive than the previous case for less space... Yeah pass.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/26 17:49:30
Subject: GW introduces the "Stormvault Skirmish Case"
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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This looks wacky.
And the white fingernails in the product picture are horrifying.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/26 18:39:02
Subject: Re:GW introduces the "Stormvault Skirmish Case"
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
Texas
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Credit GW for not being satisfied with the current solutions available, but my first impression is not all that favorable.
I suspect anyone with a current mini-case solution is not the target market for these, but at first glance, I just don’t see myself recommending one to anyone who should ask, much less would I consider it myself since I am quite statisfied with my old-fashion foam case solution.
To echo what others have shared, it doesn't seem to actually achieve its intended purpose, excepting GW just trying to sell the uninitiated yet another over-priced GW branded hobby accessory via a seemingly useless product re-hash that markets itself as some startling new innovation like so many of GW's previous hobby accessory offerings that were neither truly innovative or cost effective.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/26 18:59:14
Subject: GW introduces the "Stormvault Skirmish Case"
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Rogue Grot Kannon Gunna
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alphaecho wrote:For my beloved metal Imperial Guard, it's KR Multicase all the way for me. Those little individual model compartments mean I have very few instances of paint chipping.
This. The soft foam and individual model compartments are the best protection I've ever seen and I don't think this weird spike system is going to change that. And who cares if it's a tiny bit bulkier, it's a 10-model skirmish game case that will be small no matter how you design it.
It's just so baffling to me that GW can be so good at the miniatures and so bad at everything else. Their best tools are the ones where they re-brand someone else's stuff at a significant markup, every time they try to innovate and make their own products it ends up being weird stuff nobody was asking for and you have to wonder if anyone who uses the product was on the design team.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/26 19:13:59
Subject: GW introduces the "Stormvault Skirmish Case"
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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ThePaintingOwl wrote: alphaecho wrote:For my beloved metal Imperial Guard, it's KR Multicase all the way for me. Those little individual model compartments mean I have very few instances of paint chipping.
This. The soft foam and individual model compartments are the best protection I've ever seen and I don't think this weird spike system is going to change that. And who cares if it's a tiny bit bulkier, it's a 10-model skirmish game case that will be small no matter how you design it.
It's just so baffling to me that GW can be so good at the miniatures and so bad at everything else. Their best tools are the ones where they re-brand someone else's stuff at a significant markup, every time they try to innovate and make their own products it ends up being weird stuff nobody was asking for and you have to wonder if anyone who uses the product was on the design team.
Except the painting handle, that’s been copied by everyone. And contrast paints, also copied by everyone.
This video with the guy who used to run their product design team explains why they make the things they do and why they charge so much for it her stuff. It’s a very interesting insight into their workings. It explains why some stuff they make seems completely pointless, like the mould line remover, actually make sense for their business.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-63A7cDkOm8
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/26 20:22:17
Subject: GW introduces the "Stormvault Skirmish Case"
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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I like the zigzag foam but purely for the more modern dynamic plastic models.
The mould removers havd reduced my modelling knife close calls.
I don't have the patience for swapping models on the paint handle when batch painting. I am tempted by the multi arm painting handles.
Now, my Gw spinning spray stick....
Best Christmas pressie from my wife...evah!
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