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Hope is not just the cinematic!


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So Ruination Chamber = Death Company


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Confirmed massive rules rewrite!

It was just the cinematic.

Tuned into the video, and regretted it. Not sure why they ditched the desk and went for couches and chairs.

So far... eh.
The underworlds warbands are not any kind of my cup of tea. Goofs and goofiers.

CSM getting a jump pack lord back feels almost like a taunt. This one model (and the pointless foot one) could have happened years ago, and would have cut a lot of rabble-rabble from CSM fans.

Warcry stuff looks good for those factions.

Dunno that AoS chaos needs a 'more bigger' lizard lord.

Haven't seen good pics of the other stuff yet.

Ooo 'ground up rewrite' of the rules, first since the first edition. That's a line from GW that always, always promises good things.

Was combat range an issue that it needed to be handwaved to be 3" always? Accessibility and elegance are buzzwords now. Lovely.

Sweeping changes to factions. And small game format. Vote now on what's going in the bin!
Wow. They re-invented the idea that champs, standards and musicians can just be basic rules and not be rewritten on each and every warscroll. Amazing!

Voss wrote:
Tuned into the video, and regretted it. Not sure why they ditched the desk and went for couches and chairs.

So far... eh.
The underworlds warbands are not any kind of my cup of tea. Goofs and goofiers.

CSM getting a jump pack lord back feels almost like a taunt. This one model (and the pointless foot one) could have happened years ago, and would have cut a lot of rabble-rabble from CSM fans.

Warcry stuff looks good for those factions.

Dunno that AoS chaos needs a 'more bigger' lizard lord.

Haven't seen good pics of the other stuff yet.

Ooo 'ground up rewrite' of the rules, first since the first edition. That's a line from GW that always, always promises good things.

Was combat range an issue that it needed to be handwaved to be 3" always? Accessibility and elegance are buzzwords now. Lovely.

Sweeping changes to factions. And small game format. Vote now on what's going in the bin!

Couldnt agree more. Nothing has really caught my attention

Most of the blathering about rules makes me immediately wary.

If I wanted to play WHFB, I'd still be playing it.

 CMLR wrote:
Hope is not just the cinematic!


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So Ruination Chamber = Death Company

Legion of the Damned maybe?

Sigmarines of the Damned?

We'll workshop it.

i'm not sure if they're saying 4th edition will have full indexes, or just rewritten warscrolls. definitely hope it's the latter

30 minutes of yapping about how awesome it's going to be and not 1 model shown......lol

So that's why it was pre-recorded, they didn't want to show any models.

Kinda worried AoS will become either Fantasy but round bases or 40K but fantasy setting, which I don't mind but there's already a market for those who don't want to play the exact same game but different color (except daemon players I guess).

Chat was worst then usual.

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:
indexes

*indices

I mean, it also means they don't have to convince someone to come in at 3am in the UK.

They have the streamer functioning again on the Community page if ever you want to watch without even seeing chat.

Worst review show in like 18 months! This format was not good for a reveal show. Particularly three videos with the fluff for the chaos character. The teasers were such nothings they could have just been filler articles on a random day of the week.

Votan look cool
AOS video was cool
No models was not cool

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:
i'm not sure if they're saying 4th edition will have full indexes, or just rewritten warscrolls. definitely hope it's the latter

Free warscrolls for everything at launch was mentioned.
I expect they'll do it they way they did 40k in 10th and have a couple 'cards' of faction rules and 'enhancements' (artifacts). And then start the book cycle over.

And the article is up:

As a result, each faction in the new edition will receive a free downloadable faction pack at launch. Each pack will contain all of the rules needed to play – battle traits, subfactions, enhancements, spell lores, and warscrolls for every unit. This also means that the battletomes from the current edition will not be compatible with the new rules, and that every faction will receive a new battletome over the next few years.

I suspect several things aren't surviving the jump



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So Warcom finally caught up.
Squats with shotguns and sniper rifles and missile launchers, because the range disparity makes sense (features the handheld launcher from the rumor engine, by the by)
GSC just have brood brothers now as their own kit. Quite a few look like they can be head swapped back to looking like normal guard squads to add some variety.

HH - Admech I guess.
Necromunda - empty nothing.

TOW- Dorfs in bulk.

Those Votann guys are spiffy! As are the new Chaos Lords. Not showing any models for AoS 4th edition is kinda dirty pool though.

If they only showed Launch Box minis, then Dwarfs would've been my runner-ups for tonight, but Abrazia and specially that terrain are a not at all a bad third place.

KT also ranks really high up there, and kitty paws Jump Lord has grown on me.

Actually, I quite liked everything shown, maybe that's why I didn't felt betrayed by the abscence of 4E stuff.

 Matrindur wrote:
MECHANICUM ARE COMING TO HERESY

That means 28mm right? Not Epic Legions or whatever it's called.

I'll take this fella



As many as you can make

I like the CSM lord with jump pack. But only because I can now use my old model again. Hopefully they can join warptalons. Also 8 detachments? One more than SM? Holy crap

 xeen wrote:
I like the CSM lord with jump pack. But only because I can now use my old model again. Hopefully they can join warptalons. Also 8 detachments? One more than SM? Holy crap

Haha, 'cuz 8 is Chaos funny number.

I'd be amazed if other Chaos specific warbands get the same number of detachments as their respective holy numbers.

 CMLR wrote:

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:
indexes

*indices

'Indexes' is more correct in common usage. 'Indices' is generally just used in mathematics, these days.




I like the foot Lord. Jump pack Lord is largely indistinguishable from the regular jump pack guys.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Given Heresy is just a teaser?

I’m hoping it’s a teaser for the Mechanicum. Seem early given we’ve barely, just about, sort of got Solar Auxilia. But I’d still love for Mechanicum to get some plastic love.

Do I win £5?

Warp Talon lord didn't get those massive feet claws like his underlings. Ooof

Chopstick wrote:
Warp Talon lord didn't get those massive feet claws like his underlings. Ooof

I miss the birb feet.

 CMLR wrote:

 xeen wrote:
I like the CSM lord with jump pack. But only because I can now use my old model again. Hopefully they can join warptalons. Also 8 detachments? One more than SM? Holy crap

Haha, 'cuz 8 is Chaos funny number.

I'd be amazed if other Chaos specific warbands get the same number of detachments as their respective holy numbers.

Basic warband
Veterans of the long war
Siege company
Infiltration and cult leaders
Demonic pact
Terror assault
Cult of excess
Piratical renegades

Should cover everything csm that isnt it's own book right now

Chopstick wrote:
Warp Talon lord didn't get those massive feet claws like his underlings. Ooof

He’s not a Warp Talon though? “just” a Chaos Lord with Jump Pack and paired lightning claws.

New CSM combat patrol posted on twitter. Probably a mistake since it was posted instead of the second battleforce but revealed now anyway:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

Chopstick wrote:
Warp Talon lord didn't get those massive feet claws like his underlings. Ooof

He’s not a Warp Talon though? “just” a Chaos Lord with Jump Pack and paired lightning claws.

Yeah but he still got those tiny claw feet of the raptor, even smaller than the raptor... hmmm don't ditch your old equipments when you're promoted?

Raptors are a Cult as well.

But regardless of hair splitting?

Of the previews, there’s nothing that particularly wows me. But there’s an awful lot pretty here.

My favourite is the GSC Kill Team. They’re just really, really cool. Especially the purloined combat shotgun.

 Matrindur wrote:
New CSM combat patrol posted on twitter. Probably a mistake since it was posted instead of the second battleforce but revealed now anyway:

That's a pretty stacked Combat Patrol. I'm glad this CP mode is fair and balanced across all factions.

Decent show. Sculpts excellent all round. Sad that some armies are still only getting heroes as their one thing for the edition...?

Might just be the Dwarf Lord and STD faction terrain (are we back to doing those then?) for me. Would like the sigmar fanatics but then I remembered Underworlds starter prices...

 insaniak wrote:

 CMLR wrote:

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:
indexes

*indices

'Indexes' is more correct in common usage. 'Indices' is generally just used in mathematics, these days.

I come from a biology background so take it from where it comes.

 insaniak wrote:

I like the foot Lord. Jump pack Lord is largely indistinguishable from the regular jump pack guys.

A Chaos Space Marine will still have Space Marine Syndrome.

FEC Underworlds team and GSC KT are the stars of the show for me.

Voss wrote:

GSC just have brood brothers now as their own kit. Quite a few look like they can be head swapped back to looking like normal guard squads to add some variety.

Are the brood brothers not just an upgrade sprue for the Cadian kit?