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 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Hm, now that beasts have been kicked, the final force that is due an army sized refresh.

really hoping that happens soon. ogres are an army i've been thinking about getting into and there's a lot of potential in the range, but it just needs some better models

They're not at all a bad range. A lot of it still looks very good for it's age. But they could definitely use some more dynamic sculpts. Bring the infantry up to standard like the new gorgers.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Bring the infantry up to standard like the new gorgers.

Yeah, this. Although we should remember that they did not update basic infantry for ghouls which looks much worse than a basic ogre.

yeah, exactly. the cavalry in particular seems pretty solid (although i'm less interested in that stuff, just visually speaking). maybe a few extra units, too, while we're at it

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Bring the infantry up to standard like the new gorgers.

Yeah, this. Although we should remember that they did not update basic infantry for ghouls which looks much worse than a basic ogre.

I mean they kinda did. The crypt guard are essentially the new ghouls

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Bring the infantry up to standard like the new gorgers.

Yeah, this. Although we should remember that they did not update basic infantry for ghouls which looks much worse than a basic ogre.

I mean they kinda did. The crypt guard are essentially the new ghouls

They would be if the Crypt ones were removed, which could be done, and no one would miss them.

Someone would. You know with how some of this community behaves it would be treated like the apocalypse had come.

Ok side note, these are interesting

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/05/31/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-faction-focus-flesh-eater-courts/
Flesh-eater Courts rules are basically their 3rd edition rules

No surprise there if they were the last army.

So a suicide horde killer?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/05/31/introduce-the-mortal-realms-to-the-true-meaning-of-firepower-with-the-new-ratling-warpblaster/?utm_source=Social+Media&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=AoS&utm_content=skaven&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR1bViYHfQYEGqZ8Zcr5mHmRFx9q7J6PGWZrobB6cdvuUSA8XILp_lPOO2k_aem_AYZSmTtpKtb6ppxt9ti_EWXP25iYqn15jdJepthK9CDzEkiKxSwwppr06oI8-MllVLKDEs9o5JWlngC9t2fRnPLY

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
So a suicide horde killer?

I bet the gunner survives thanks to ''noble sacrifice'' of his slaves

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
So a suicide horde killer?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/05/31/introduce-the-mortal-realms-to-the-true-meaning-of-firepower-with-the-new-ratling-warpblaster/?utm_source=Social+Media&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=AoS&utm_content=skaven&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR1bViYHfQYEGqZ8Zcr5mHmRFx9q7J6PGWZrobB6cdvuUSA8XILp_lPOO2k_aem_AYZSmTtpKtb6ppxt9ti_EWXP25iYqn15jdJepthK9CDzEkiKxSwwppr06oI8-MllVLKDEs9o5JWlngC9t2fRnPLY

I would expect nothing less from Skryre technology. In fact, I'd be highly disappointed if it didn't constantly threaten to blow itself up.

I appreciate that the suicide part isn't part of the base profile for it.

You can just shoot at half rate and be safe, right

Bad news so little whining on net over fec. Last time that happened faction was most busted in 30 years.

I'm more relaxed when faction groups whine. Then it's all the same. When "we got nerfed to death" stops tlme to worry

 lord_blackfang wrote:
You can just shoot at half rate and be safe, right

You can't choose, its based on being in or out of combat range with a Clan Skyre Hero. If you're within combat range you use the full rate with selfharm profile; if you're out of combat range with a hero then you use the regular profile.

So whilst you can't choose specifically, the distances involved are very short so its very easy to ensure that you are out of range and you can be for the whole game if you want. Of course we might see Skyre heroes with bonus aura buffs that could create a deadly combo

It's not a passive ability, and it's only once per turn per army, so that's not how it works.

If you have 3 of them in range of Skyre Heros, you would still have to activate the ability for a single 1 of them during your Shooting Phase. You are not obligated to activate the ability.

In fact, you can activate the ability but gain nothing from it, as the effect only does anything if you're in range of the hero.

Oh wait I missed the activated ability title of the info box - yeah you're right its even more controlled then!

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Hm, now that beasts have been kicked, the final force that is due an army sized refresh.

really hoping that happens soon. ogres are an army i've been thinking about getting into and there's a lot of potential in the range, but it just needs some better models

Honestly the current baseline Ogres are really good as is - simple pose, fairly easy to paint, etc. What they could really use is a Butcher that doesn't look like trash, a Firebelly in a material other than GW resin, new Yetees, and, the biggest and most obvious, a super customizable Maneaters set with all sorts of goodies.

Even then I'm a bit unsure on it, since the modelling team seems to be about 50/50 on great models (Blackpowder, the Bloodbowl team) and kind of...weird models (Bloodpelt hunter and the really weird blindfold setup they have going). Hell, to me at least the only reason the Gorgers get a pass is because they are better than what they replaced, but...that is really not that hard considering how awful looking the old Gorger was.

I'd just be afraid of them replacing the old, good looking, easy to build and paint models with something overdesigned and tedious to build.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
So a suicide horde killer?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/05/31/introduce-the-mortal-realms-to-the-true-meaning-of-firepower-with-the-new-ratling-warpblaster/?utm_source=Social+Media&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=AoS&utm_content=skaven&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR1bViYHfQYEGqZ8Zcr5mHmRFx9q7J6PGWZrobB6cdvuUSA8XILp_lPOO2k_aem_AYZSmTtpKtb6ppxt9ti_EWXP25iYqn15jdJepthK9CDzEkiKxSwwppr06oI8-MllVLKDEs9o5JWlngC9t2fRnPLY

Does the passive hit bonus for large units affect the crit effect? Or does Crit (auto wound) need an unmodified 6+?

Crit's are unmodified. Just as 40k.

See anatomy of warscroll article

Fire dwarfs https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/06/03/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-faction-focus-fyreslayers/

Cool, been meaning to try out the small force i have of these. Master of the runes seems interesting for just general dickery.

How to play https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/06/03/get-your-first-taste-of-newaos-in-action-with-this-how-to-play-video/

Well for a newbie that would be quite useful.

Idoneth:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/06/04/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-faction-focus-idoneth-deepkin/

Not familiar enough with how they play to judge, but Tides of Death seems like an interesting thing to build a list around.

Tides of Death is basically unchanged...which is a "meh".

Really needed to see the Isharaan Rituals and units to make a decision.

i was hoping the army rules would really shine here, since Idoneth is an army i'm interested in for aesthetic reasons, but the rules still feel pretty lacking. they're Fine, but nothing more than that

 Kanluwen wrote:
Tides of Death is basically unchanged...which is a "meh".

Really needed to see the Isharaan Rituals and units to make a decision.

The ritual(s) we've seen so far feel fairly strong. Not guaranteed anymore, but also not locked to a Tide, and you can switch between them every turn. The 5+ ward is gone, but might just be on a different model.