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2024/06/19 20:04:15
Subject: AoS N&R (p23. Skaventide pre-order June 29,July 13 release date, Slaughter at Hel Crown,July 15)
I honestly am loving how GW is handling the army wide special rules. It's so much simpler and easy to follow than what they've done in the past (and way better than how they've handled 40kimo), but imparts so much distinct flavor into how the army plays
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2024/06/19 20:25:09
Subject: AoS N&R (p23. Skaventide pre-order June 29,July 13 release date, Slaughter at Hel Crown,July 15)
chaos0xomega wrote: I honestly am loving how GW is handling the army wide special rules. It's so much simpler and easy to follow than what they've done in the past (and way better than how they've handled 40kimo), but imparts so much distinct flavor into how the army plays
The... format... irks me a little bit because it looks a lot like D&D 4th edition, but I agree on content, it looks like they hit the balance of simple rules and a meaningful but manageable amount of flavour. We still have to see all the data cards, however - 40k also looked good until the pdfs dropped.
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2024/06/20 00:22:54
Subject: AoS N&R (p23. Skaventide pre-order June 29,July 13 release date, Slaughter at Hel Crown,July 15)
I have to say I always find the strategems in 40K a pain. A whole layer of quite powerful and important abilities and I find in most games I'm either using one or two over and over or forgetting the rest exist.
There's fewer of them now and they're written in a clearer way but yes I agree, I don't like strategems/reactions as a design philosophy generally - slows the game down too much if everything could be a potential decision point for either player and means you need to keep up with all the things your opponent's army *could* do on your own turn, I don't care for it. Alright for casual play with mates, where you can kind of grow into it together and play the same couple of armies regularly, but makes pickup games horrific
2024/06/20 11:12:40
Subject: AoS N&R (p23. Skaventide pre-order June 29,July 13 release date, Slaughter at Hel Crown,July 15)
One thing I found funny is Gordrakk having W20/3+ when most other centrepieces have just W14/4+. Hell, Kragnos, the god/centrepiece of his whole superfaction is W18/4+ (and he would most likely be completely trashed by Gordrakk's mountain of anti-hero/monster abilities and waaagh combo, too). I thought according to Dakka lolconspiracy theories one of the earliest AoS models would have the worst statline while new big shiny one would be the best to drive up sales?
Also kind of funny how Warchanter, a glorified support unit, sports six power fist (8th edition statline) attacks. Remember when 40K was being called 'too lethal' when big beatstick captains sported just three of those?
2024/06/20 11:21:51
Subject: AoS N&R (p23. Skaventide pre-order June 29,July 13 release date, Slaughter at Hel Crown,July 15)
I have not played Sylvaneth since 1st edition, but always kept adding the occasional new models they get -one of my favourite factions ever produced by games workshop for any system.
Im not thrilled to see them go back to every rule mentioning awakenend wyldwood, but atleast its easy to remember.
Im really hoping this is the edition I can convince my friends to try out AoS.
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Oh good, means I can actually plan my force for the local release day event.
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2024/06/21 16:56:21
Subject: AoS N&R (p23. Skaventide pre-order June 29,July 13 release date, Slaughter at Hel Crown,July 15)
Manfred von Drakken wrote: So, they wanted to get rid of summoning. Okay. But why does it appear that Khorne is the only one that gets to recycle its greater daemons?
Its to compensate for their smaller stature compared to the other 3 GD's!
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2024/06/22 09:15:40
Subject: Re:AoS N&R (p23. Skaventide pre-order June 29,July 13 release date, Slaughter at Hel Crown,July 15)
So looking at the sprues in the order of the images it seems like the Lord-Terminos, Reclusians and the Knight-Questor are on a combined sprue so the Reclusians will very likely get a solo release with the other characters locked to this special sprue in the same way the combined Kruleboyz/Stormcast sprues from Dominion got turned into those expensive webstore only sprues.
The Lord-Veritant, the Grey Seer and the Warlock Engineer are on a detachable sprue so likely as expected part of the starter sets. Which makes it pretty likely the two Spearheads buildable from the contents will just be the highest tier starter set
Everything else looks separate so ready for a solo release and likely extra multipart releases for any of them.
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2024/06/22 10:34:11
Subject: AoS N&R (p23. Skaventide pre-order June 29,July 13 release date, Slaughter at Hel Crown,July 15)
Sounds the same as the Annhilators. Got their own box along with the three originals attached to Yndrasta. I wish they hadn't done that again this time.
2024/06/22 10:40:22
Subject: AoS N&R (p23. Skaventide pre-order June 29,July 13 release date, Slaughter at Hel Crown,July 15)
Inquisitor Gideon wrote: Sounds the same as the Annhilators. Got their own box along with the three originals attached to Yndrasta. I wish they hadn't done that again this time.
At least its only the Stormcast this time, Skaven don't seem to have a combined sprue.
Also since the Reclusians should be getting a multipart kits the only real locked models are the Lord-Terminos and the Knight-Questor and the Questor is just a new sculpt so only really one character actually locked without realistic chances of being available outside of a expensive bundle
2024/06/22 11:49:19
Subject: AoS N&R (p23. Skaventide pre-order June 29,July 13 release date, Slaughter at Hel Crown,July 15)
I really hope GW puts the effort into making sure Spearhead is an actual game type people will play instead of an after thought. Honestly I didn't even play a single game of 3rd for various reasons. One of which was I simply did not have the time.
Something quick I can play on my kitchen table is very much something I would love to do more often.
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2024/06/22 15:12:46
Subject: Re:AoS N&R (p23. Skaventide pre-order June 29,July 13 release date, Slaughter at Hel Crown,July 15)
Chaos Dwarves, Regular Dwarves (GW keeps dropping all kinds of hints in the Gotrek adventures), Whatever the heck GW is going to do with the Dark Elves in Cities of Sigmar and Malarion
All 4 are things that have either been outright said should happen and haven't or are heavily hinted at. All 4 should happen this edition - heck I'm shocked that Dark Elves stuff is still kicking around with no clear plan and that Malarion isn't in the game yet.
None of those things have been outright said they should happen. In fact out of all of them, it's only chaos dwarves that have been confirmed by whitefang.
Malarion appears in the very first stories about AoS in 1st edition. His faction even rules the greater bulk of the Shadow Realm and he's appeared several times to Morathi.
If he's never going to appear its really odd that GW would create such a huge faction that spans a whole Realm and then abandons it.
Something has to happen with the Dark Elf stuff in Cities of Sigmar - that's models on the shelf right now to buy but with no clear intention now that Cities has a new model range and Old World is kicking into gear. It's actually a shock that they pulled Beastmen out of AoS, where they were selling and into Old World and not the Dark Elf stuff (methinks could be more internal politics than anything else - esp as the "very clearly a beastmen model" got put into Destruction and not even the same Grand Alliance*)
So yes I agree Whitefang has only confirmed the Chaos Dwarves, but the other parts have so many strings attached something should be ni the works or plans
*heck maybe that's ~GW's plan. No demonic beastmen; have a destruction force of them instead?