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Remember that GW will almost certainly re-release them in another product at a later date.

"stormcast aren't as popular as space marines" is a really funny thing because like. yeah, that's objectively true. nothing in warhammer is. nothing in wargaming is. multiple 40k factions are statistical outliers in comparison to space marines. stormcasts don't have space marine popularity because that's literally impossible. but they're still solidly popular. people like them and people play them

when "stormcasts aren't as popular as space marines" turns into "and GW is doomed to failure for pushing them so hard" is when this goes from a basic, but trivial, fact, to something that's just plain silly

 kodos wrote:
easy, Stormcast are less popular than Space Marines
so to increase sales up to a similar level to make the investment worth doing, or to avoid the impression that those are less popular, make those people who want them buy much more

and as this is GW, it will work and be a major success

^^This, exactly this.

Not only will it be a success, it will tell GW that AoS is just as popular as 40k.

X-mas boxes next week:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/0kkusrqx/sunday-preview-load-up-on-the-new-christmas-battleforces/?utm_source=CUSTOMERS&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=WH_10th_November_Preview_&utm_content=&utm_term=

Nothing really grabbing my attention this year, which is a first. The AOS sets I find particularly meh.
I think I'll maybe just grab some LI boxes instead.

They are nice and I think have some stuff that's newer than the norm for xmas boxen (certainly FEC) but I just don't need more atm.

Heck the Human boxed set for AoS is entirely new models. All 4 are great boxes; they are just for none of the armies I collect and I don't want any new armies right now.


The 40K front is different - I technically have a whole load of Necrons and I don't have a dragon so that boxed set is ideal for me; SoB I've always wanted to start so another interesting one. However I'm trying to consolidate/finish off armies or get a few 3D printed ones started properly and underway.

So I think I will end up passing on them unless any of them last out a good while past pre-order (esp in the 3rd party market).



Though honestly I might just use the frenzy of online "I bought loads of stuff" to soft justify picking up the Soulblight set with wolves+bats+snakeleader; which is still in stock in a few places and a kit I've not yet picked up. Though I might have to try and finish a few more undead wolves this week to justify clearing a bit of backlog before getting it

I'm really curious to see if the "Battleforce with every codex release" model GW has been testing this year will have an impact on how rapidly these sell out. The AoS options feel much higher value than the 40K ones this year – newer models, no weird skews.

 Overread wrote:
Heck the Human boxed set for AoS is entirely new models. All 4 are great boxes; they are just for none of the armies I collect and I don't want any new armies right now.


The 40K front is different - I technically have a whole load of Necrons and I don't have a dragon so that boxed set is ideal for me; SoB I've always wanted to start so another interesting one. However I'm trying to consolidate/finish off armies or get a few 3D printed ones started properly and underway.

So I think I will end up passing on them unless any of them last out a good while past pre-order (esp in the 3rd party market).



Though honestly I might just use the frenzy of online "I bought loads of stuff" to soft justify picking up the Soulblight set with wolves+bats+snakeleader; which is still in stock in a few places and a kit I've not yet picked up. Though I might have to try and finish a few more undead wolves this week to justify clearing a bit of backlog before getting it

I'm curious about the Maggotkin one.

It's basically identical to the bundle they got during Dawnbringers, but with an extra unit of Pusgoyle Blightlords and the warcry guys

That's currently around $130 on ebay, and is one of the only ways to get the Harbinger that's permanently temporarily out of stock, so I dunno if it's worth paying a bit more for some more fly guys

New leak for Kruleboyz:


Should be true since it matches this rumour engine


Also interesting new box design that might replace blisters since it has that suspension hole on top, probably to cut down on plastic packaging.
And it still says Orruk Warclans which makes it likely both are still in the same Battletome.

On the model itself its a bit disappointing to me since he doesn't look that different to the others. More like a unit champion than an actual hero model.

Oh now he's rather neat. And on that rumour list from before I believe.

Second head and better look at the weapon without the background:




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Battleforce prices, all of them at 190€, 10€ more than last years 40k ones and 15€ more for the AoS ones


That means the discounts are:
Tau Empire - 29%
Necrons - 30%
Adepta Sororitas - 33%
Imperial Knights - 36% if you use the full price for the Knight but less depending on how much you value the two missing extra sprues
Dark Angels - 36%

Flesh Eater Courts - 28%
Ironjawz - 28%
Maggotkin of Nurgle - 31%
Cities of Sigmar - 29%

Overall average discount is 31.1%, for comparison last year it was 35.7% so not just a higher price but a worse discount too

Not bad i guess. Increase as usual, but at least all the forces contain new(ish) models.

I wonder if we’ll get hobgrot wolf riders as well

Interesting box though. Are gw going away from plastic clam packs for environmental reasons?

I'd rather see a Gnashtoof cavalry so our Dominion lord isn't quite so lonesome.

Could be, be kind of funny if they dumped plastic packaging entirely for their bits of plastic inside.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
I'd rather see a Gnashtoof cavalry so our Dominion lord isn't quite so lonesome.

Could be, be kind of funny if they dumped plastic packaging entirely for their bits of plastic inside.

The plastic inside will at least be used (well about 50% unless you use the sprue for scratch building) the packaging will just be thrown away

GW is also offering in-store recycling collection for their sprue in the UK which is likely to be something they expand on.

So you've got a card box that can be recycled with plastic sprue that can be recycled and with a plastic model that you use. So that's honestly pretty good recycling all round

In the article image on Warcom for the X-mas Battleforces, have they shown the contents of the 2 Spearhead boxes that are pictured below the X-Mas Battleforces? I didn't see either mentioned in the article.

 GaroRobe wrote:
I wonder if we’ll get hobgrot wolf riders as well

Interesting box though. Are gw going away from plastic clam packs for environmental reasons?

I think I read something awhile back about the UK passing some sort of law about single use plastics. Or single use plastics for packaging.
Shortly after that we started seeing no shrink-wrap on boxes, small boxes instead of clamshells, etc out of GW.

Now if they'd just get rid of the silly plastic tray that holds solo fig spue in those boxes....

The last solo style figure I got didn't come in a plastic tray.

But yeah some of this is UK government pressure and GW reacting honestly pretty swiftly to it. Likely because whilst other firms are lagging, GW are robust enough to react quickly (they control so much of their production chain in house) and because they can see that its only going to get worse.
So easier to change now and make the adjustments rather than last out - plus the more they do now the more they might have to negotiate with if they have to apply for exceptions in the future as more legislation comes out.

 nels1031 wrote:
In the article image on Warcom for the X-mas Battleforces, have they shown the contents of the 2 Spearhead boxes that are pictured below the X-Mas Battleforces? I didn't see either mentioned in the article.

Those are the existing DoK and Sylvaneth boxes being used as set dressing, nothing to talk about there

chaos0xomega wrote:

 nels1031 wrote:
In the article image on Warcom for the X-mas Battleforces, have they shown the contents of the 2 Spearhead boxes that are pictured below the X-Mas Battleforces? I didn't see either mentioned in the article.

Those are the existing DoK and Sylvaneth boxes being used as set dressing, nothing to talk about there

Ah, thought they were something new. Good catch!

 Overread wrote:
The last solo style figure I got didn't come in a plastic tray.

But yeah some of this is UK government pressure and GW reacting honestly pretty swiftly to it. Likely because whilst other firms are lagging, GW are robust enough to react quickly (they control so much of their production chain in house) and because they can see that its only going to get worse.
So easier to change now and make the adjustments rather than last out - plus the more they do now the more they might have to negotiate with if they have to apply for exceptions in the future as more legislation comes out.

The special ed chaos sorcerer lord did.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

 Overread wrote:
The last solo style figure I got didn't come in a plastic tray.

But yeah some of this is UK government pressure and GW reacting honestly pretty swiftly to it. Likely because whilst other firms are lagging, GW are robust enough to react quickly (they control so much of their production chain in house) and because they can see that its only going to get worse.
So easier to change now and make the adjustments rather than last out - plus the more they do now the more they might have to negotiate with if they have to apply for exceptions in the future as more legislation comes out.

The special ed chaos sorcerer lord did.

The Bane of Law? I thought commemorative series always came in boxes, but the MTO Dwarf lords I got were in a clampack

I think what Gideon means is that the box for Tzarketh has a plastic tray inside it, having just checked mine.

Oh thats really weird. I still need to pick mine up from my FLGS

 Matrindur wrote:
New leak for Kruleboyz:


Should be true since it matches this rumour engine


Also interesting new box design that might replace blisters since it has that suspension hole on top, probably to cut down on plastic packaging.
And it still says Orruk Warclans which makes it likely both are still in the same Battletome.

On the model itself its a bit disappointing to me since he doesn't look that different to the others. More like a unit champion than an actual hero model.

oh, that's a great model. glad they're going to be doing more with the hobgrots, rather than leaving them as just a single unit

although, the problem here feels like this guy isn't too unique, because he does just look like a slightly more ostentatious champion for that unit

I don't see it as that much of a problem. His back banner and sword that is a 1/3 bigger than he is marks him out from the average Hob enough i think.

that's true. it's distinct as a character, and i think he's cool. i guess i just want more of the hobgrots

Very happy to see more Hobgrotz, but he is very underwhelming in a stupid pose with a stupid weapon.