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I hope to Gork and Mork that the new Hobgrot character isn't all Kruleboyz get with their new book. The range really needs more than just another niche character who'll probably be passed over in favor of another Swampcalla Shaman anyway

 Gallahad wrote:
Very happy to see more Hobgrotz, but he is very underwhelming in a stupid pose with a stupid weapon.

Well, he does provide at least five more opportunities to stab yourself than any miniature needs. So at least he has that going for him.

 ZergSmasher wrote:
I hope to Gork and Mork that the new Hobgrot character isn't all Kruleboyz get with their new book. The range really needs more than just another niche character who'll probably be passed over in favor of another Swampcalla Shaman anyway

I imagine being stuck in the same book as other orcs is a problem in that regard. The battletome as a whole got a miniature wave last edition and Kruleboyz were the featured opposing force for the edition. Doesn't exactly feel like GW would feel any obligation to release another substantial model wave just yet.

I'm 100% behind the view that Kruelboyz should get their own book. They are just so vastly different to Orruks in almost all fronts.

The design language, the style, even the very nature of them. Orruks are very much "40K Orks in AoS" even to the point where they basically copy almost all their behaviours.

Kruelboyz give the impression of being closer to Old World orks; ergo being a dark nasty kind of ork that's rather smarter and less "me big me fight me happy" almost jovial take on orks. that orruks have.

 Gallahad wrote:
Very happy to see more Hobgrotz, but he is very underwhelming in a stupid pose with a stupid weapon.

And you don't hold jagged, poisoned swords by the blade?

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Gallahad wrote:
Very happy to see more Hobgrotz, but he is very underwhelming in a stupid pose with a stupid weapon.

And you don't hold jagged, poisoned swords by the blade?

why do you think hes that yellow after all...

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Gallahad wrote:
Very happy to see more Hobgrotz, but he is very underwhelming in a stupid pose with a stupid weapon.

And you don't hold jagged, poisoned swords by the blade?

It is so disappointing to see multipart HIPs plastic heroes done in such a "2 piece silicon mold for pewter" style pose. You are going to ask me to take my time to build that??

Fingers crossed more is coming for the Hobgrotz. They are great little models. I have entirely too many of them!

STD book and new sorcerer and most importantly, Abraxia finally seperate next week:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/eueoinsr/sunday-preview-chaos-comes-to-the-mortal-realms/

Interesting that the spearhead has Darkoath Savages which aren't on the main site any more as their own set.

I'm more surprised this is coming now. I thought that nothing else was coming until the new year.

 Overread wrote:
Interesting that the spearhead has Darkoath Savages which aren't on the main site any more as their own set.

Yeah, I had them on “email me when available” for a long time and they went AWOL when I tried searching for them some time ago. I was afraid they were getting sent off to pasture like some of the other Warcry things, but it might just be a reboxing. Hope they come back into regular rotation, as they are solid mini’s, barring some weird proportions on a few of the female mini’s.

Prices for this week:

80 is about where I expected those four packs of Underworld sets to be. It feels like a little discount from the retail price but its about on par.

Thing is I can see that being a big "sticker shock price" when you compare it to other products considering that's only 20 odd models in the set.

It's actually quite a big discount, as they were £25 individually before. This will probably equate to about £65 retail and then 20% third parties on top of that will drop it to just about £50. You'll essentially get two of the warbands free compared to before.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
It's actually quite a big discount, as they were £25 individually before. This will probably equate to about £65 retail and then 20% third parties on top of that will drop it to just about £50. You'll essentially get two of the warbands free compared to before.

Sure you get about 2 free but that also means you need to want at least 3 to get a discount
Also you'd likely get that third party discount in the individual sets too unless they are old enough to be webstore only so a bit less than 2 free actually

Only if they don’t sell out like the Rivals of the mirrored city bundle did

It was almost impossible to find a set when it dropped

 Matrindur wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
It's actually quite a big discount, as they were £25 individually before. This will probably equate to about £65 retail and then 20% third parties on top of that will drop it to just about £50. You'll essentially get two of the warbands free compared to before.

Sure you get about 2 free but that also means you need to want at least 3 to get a discount
Also you'd likely get that third party discount in the individual sets too unless they are old enough to be webstore only so a bit less than 2 free actually

I already applied the third party discount. It would have been 100 (old) to 65 (new) if you got four of each. That's still a pretty heft discount. Speaking personally, i want all four from the chaos and destruction ones, so yeah, it's a big discount compared to before.

 Overread wrote:
80 is about where I expected those four packs of Underworld sets to be. It feels like a little discount from the retail price but its about on par.

Thing is I can see that being a big "sticker shock price" when you compare it to other products considering that's only 20 odd models in the set.

Yep, not enough meat to warrant that price and you must really want all of those war bands...

I like that spearhead.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
I'm more surprised this is coming now. I thought that nothing else was coming until the new year.

Slaves to Darkness isn't exactly the most eye-catching part of the still terribly designed roadmap (see spoiler below). This should be it, though. With Slaves to Darkness all three battletomes galore for this year are covered.

To be fair they didn't advertise a new spearhead, just a new StD battletome and they do have a spearhead set already for the Chaos Warriors.


It's a nice spearhead and you can still find copies of the launch set of the new StD Maruaders with the new beasty as well - the two together would be one really great solid core of slaves warriors.

 Overread wrote:
To be fair they didn't advertise a new spearhead, just a new StD battletome and they do have a spearhead set already for the Chaos Warriors.


It's a nice spearhead and you can still find copies of the launch set of the new StD Maruaders with the new beasty as well - the two together would be one really great solid core of slaves warriors.

They revealed the spearhead in the most recent preview.

First Slaves article:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/n1672vmf/raise-corrupt-banners-and-transform-heroes-into-daemon-princes-in-battletome-slaves-to-darkness/

Interesting stuff about the Apotheosis points.

Confirmed on twatter that manticores, warshrines and soul grinders get retired.

I guess they are jumping into Old World?

SoulGrindre seems an odd choice then again I've never liked the model as much and its always felt more sci-fi than fantasy.


Warshrine and Manticore are sad losses. Even tough I never liked the warshrine its very very chaos


Edit - warshrine isn't even on the GW UK store. Manticores are moved over already and Soulgrinder is still there but direct only.

Soul grinder's not surprising, it was always shoehorned in ever since fantasy. War shrine is eh and I'm not surprised about the manticore, Vedra's new one makes it embarrassing to look at.

Soul Grinder was indeed an eyesore in Fantasy from the get go, just like the daemon chariots are (were?) an eyesore in 40k.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Soul Grinder was indeed an eyesore in Fantasy from the get go, just like the daemon chariots are (were?) an eyesore in 40k.

Whilst I love the Slaanesh chariot I agree its wrong in 40K. It needed a pack of guns or something. The idea of a chariot is fine; but whips only just made no sense. They should have had some needle guns or something or some magical power effects (something GW honestly doesn't do much of which is surprising) to give it some sense of fitting in a setting full of tanks and so forth.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Soul Grinder was indeed an eyesore in Fantasy from the get go, just like the daemon chariots are (were?) an eyesore in 40k.

Personally I’ve always thought the Soul Grinder was an eyesore in 40k too…

It comes from what I like to call the "boxy" era of big things. Like the old plastic demon prince and a bit of the chest of the trygon. Kind of when chests were just sort of chunky/boxy kinda ish shaped. The soulgrinder is kind of that era where its got form but just not fluidity of design.


Personally I'd be all for GW doing a redesign of the concept of the model.

It's not a bad model, but its just not an awesome model. It might also be some of its issues are because they pired it with the dreadnought (which was also a model I was never a big fan of for Chaos from that era)

Soulgrinder going 40k pnly makes sense.

Warshrine isnt in any games now, sp its effectovely a defunct model now.

Manticore is TOW only as was foretold in the prophecies.

The chariots are fine in 40k - we are talking about daemons here, they dont use guns.

chaos0xomega wrote:
The chariots are fine in 40k - we are talking about daemons here, they dont use guns.

But they could throw spears; or needles; or anything but freakishly long whips!